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[Jimmmmm]

What do you think of manda's Jorbles vote?

So scummy scum wouldn't do it. Was it you who was saying previously "but how many times does scum actually do this and how many times does town actually do this"? It's one of those.

When did I say that?

[Robz888]

For the millionth time, manda is NOT a newbie!!!

[Voltaire]

What do you think of manda's Jorbles vote?

So scummy scum wouldn't do it. Was it you who was saying previously "but how many times does scum actually do this and how many times does town actually do this"? It's one of those.

When did I say that?

Then it wasn't you. Someone said that. When you read four days of the thread at once, it really blurs together.

[Voltaire]

For the millionth time, manda is NOT a newbie!!!

Only one game, ages ago, right? Newbie in my book.

[Jorbles]

I'm intrigued at how easy it was to transfer everyone from e to Jorbles...

THIS! I don't care if you guys want to lynch me, but at least do it with a case. All you guys will learn by quicklynching me "semi-randomly" is that it's not a very effective way to find scum. At least you'll be able to find scum on my wagon though.

Not true, the case on you is valid, you have had a really small presence which is a decent case for day1.

I wouldn't call it decent. It's pretty weak. The case on me is basically that I've been around, but not as much as other people have, and am therefore scum?

[Jimmmmm]

What do you think of manda's Jorbles vote?

So scummy scum wouldn't do it. Was it you who was saying previously "but how many times does scum actually do this and how many times does town actually do this"? It's one of those.

When did I say that?

Then it wasn't you. Someone said that. When you read four days of the thread at once, it really blurs together.

I may have said something like that. I just want you to explain what you're saying.

[Robz888]

Maybe we should just lynch Morgrim.

At worst, we lynched Morgrim. No offense, Morgrim.

Vote: Morgrim?

[Jimmmmm]

I'm intrigued at how easy it was to transfer everyone from e to Jorbles...

THIS! I don't care if you guys want to lynch me, but at least do it with a case. All you guys will learn by quicklynching me "semi-randomly" is that it's not a very effective way to find scum. At least you'll be able to find scum on my wagon though.

Not true, the case on you is valid, you have had a really small presence which is a decent case for day1.

I wouldn't call it decent. It's pretty weak. The case on me is basically that I've been around, but not as much as other people have, and am therefore scum?

Is there a better case on someone else?

[Jorbles]

What do you think of manda's Jorbles vote?

Manda's vote on me is scummy I agree, but I tend to think more of ashersky's vote. Manda's vote seems so scummy that it's more likely to be town not thinking what they are doing through very much. Ash's vote looks more like he's looking to justify a way onto the wagon in a less suspicious way.

[Jimmmmm]

I admit that as much as I enjoy being agreed with by Robz and ash, I do find it strange.

[Jorbles]

Maybe we should just lynch Morgrim.

At worst, we lynched Morgrim. No offense, Morgrim.

Vote: Morgrim?

But what do we learn from lynching Morgrim?

[Jorbles]

What do you think of manda's Jorbles vote?

Manda's vote on me is scummy I agree, but I tend to think more of ashersky's vote. Manda's vote seems so scummy that it's more likely to be town not thinking what they are doing through very much. Ash's vote looks more like he's looking to justify a way onto the wagon in a less suspicious way.

Ash's vote onto my wagon is the scummiest joining of it I think. Vote: ash?

[Voltaire]

Maybe we should just lynch Morgrim.

At worst, we lynched Morgrim. No offense, Morgrim.

Vote: Morgrim?

But what do we learn from lynching Morgrim?

Only his alignment, nothing more. It's a random lynch without being random.

[ashersky]

Ashersky: Jumping on the Jorbles wagon.  I don't think that in itself is scummy, but

vote: Jorbles.  I can get behind the semi-random D1 lurker lynch at deadline.  LALL after all.

I don't like the little explanation he gives here at all.  If you get called out for it as scum, you say you are joking and switch off.  I mean, who actually says that they support a semi-random lynch?  In fact, Ash then does remove himself from the wagon when it is no longer popular and votes Walrus after attacking him for a brief period of time.

@Jorbles mostly, because he should know better, but also to clarify for newbies, re-read my Jorbles vote, people.

Put that in the guess the poster thread and I guarantee you get a Robz, a Galz, and probably a Yuma in addition to me.  It's the opposite of what 2.7 describes it as, in fact.  It's a solid line of thinking for D1, one which I wasn't bothered by when Robz (jimmmm?) put it forward.  And it occurred at a time when a scum read claimed his way to safety and before walrus outed himself as scum.

I stand behind my jorbs vote as perfectly great at the time.  But now we have actually scummy folks to catch.

[Teproc]

What's with the interrogative votes, people ? If you're gonna vote someone be serious about it. It's too easy to go "well, I wasn't really sure about voting for him" afterwards with hedgy votes like that. FoS at Jorbles for that, and, well, I'm already voting for Robz.

[Voltaire]

What's with the interrogative votes, people ? If you're gonna vote someone be serious about it. It's too easy to go "well, I wasn't really sure about voting for him" afterwards with hedgy votes like that. FoS at Jorbles for that, and, well, I'm already voting for Robz.

Walrus claimed he voted for reactions too.

[mcmcsalot]

I'm intrigued at how easy it was to transfer everyone from e to Jorbles...

THIS! I don't care if you guys want to lynch me, but at least do it with a case. All you guys will learn by quicklynching me "semi-randomly" is that it's not a very effective way to find scum. At least you'll be able to find scum on my wagon though.

Not true, the case on you is valid, you have had a really small presence which is a decent case for day1.

I wouldn't call it decent. It's pretty weak. The case on me is basically that I've been around, but not as much as other people have, and am therefore scum?

Yes but that means tomorrow there will be no better case on you than that, low impact means harder to tell if your scum and harder to tell who is scum from your flip later on when it is important. As far as the wagon of jorbles goes I think it is similarly likely that the jorbles wagon grew fast with scum on it, that the jorbles wagon grew fast because hes scum and scum is off it. He hasn't gotten lynched, so it's not like the wagon is a super fast pushed through wagon on town. I think the assumption that scum has got to be on wagon for as little that actually happened.

[Jimmmmm]

What's with the interrogative votes, people ? If you're gonna vote someone be serious about it. It's too easy to go "well, I wasn't really sure about voting for him" afterwards with hedgy votes like that. FoS at Jorbles for that, and, well, I'm already voting for Robz.

I don't see any problem with doing things for reactions. We have to scumhunt somehow.

[mcmcsalot]

Maybe we should just lynch Morgrim.

At worst, we lynched Morgrim. No offense, Morgrim.

Vote: Morgrim?

But what do we learn from lynching Morgrim?

Same thing I said about jorbles applies here though. Day one its okay, this isn't crunch time, if morgrim get a pass from posting real helpfull content today, when do we draw the line, will that be too late? So I think people need to participate(even though some people find that scummy...) and interact or else we can't figure out who scum is. vote: morgrim till he does something helpfull.

[Teproc]

What's with the interrogative votes, people ? If you're gonna vote someone be serious about it. It's too easy to go "well, I wasn't really sure about voting for him" afterwards with hedgy votes like that. FoS at Jorbles for that, and, well, I'm already voting for Robz.

I don't see any problem with doing things for reactions. We have to scumhunt somehow.

This close to deadline ? Also, you're not getting any reaction out of it if your vote is explicitely for pressure.

Note that this is not what Robz was doing, but it has the same problem of being easy to wave away as an unsignificant vote later on.

[Robz888]

I think we're jumping the gun on this "close to deadline" nonsense. We're getting there, but it's still 2 days away, right?

[Teproc]

Isn't it tomorrow ?

Just checked, it's in 2 days. Soft deadline was today so I thought it was tomorrow.

[Morgrim7]

Maybe we should just lynch Morgrim.

At worst, we lynched Morgrim. No offense, Morgrim.

Vote: Morgrim?

Mmm...yeah...no. I think not. This seems like OMGUS? FoS: Robz

[2.71828.....]

To avoid ambiguity, let me quote:

Okay, so we'll need a soft deadline. Here's the thing: As the IC, I'd like to be around for the soft deadline, but you know, this is sort of complicated with me living in Europe and all. I propose Tuesday, December 3, 2 pm forum time.

So since we are in the business of throwing out random accusations, FoS to everyone who didn't remember the soft deadline, or the real one.

[Voltaire]

It all adds up to vote: walrus at this point.  Better option than Jorbles.  Crumbled under pressure, a sure fire way to catch scum.

I just finished re-reading Walrus and I just do not see a case on him at all, especially not "crumbling under pressure". In GoT we (and I really think it was town, I don't think scum helped out at all) mislynched Walrus for playing like newbie scum and he was town.