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[Robz888]

I didn't even realize the scum were picking their partners. Fascinating.

Well, I'm not surprised I wasn't picked. Everyone always assumes I'm scum--who would want me on their team?

[Robz888]

Scum picked the least obvious person. Who is the least obvious person?

[shraeye]

raerae, gurrrrrrrrl, your mod-color is too trippy.  Let me show you how a vote-count happens.



Vote Count 1.1
liopoil (1): ashersky
mail-mi (3): spiritbears, AHoppy, sudgy,
Eevee (2): nkirbit, mail-mi

Not voting: Eevee, liopoil, mcmcsalot, modestguineapig, Robz888, yuma
With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch

[ashersky]

Scum picked the least obvious person. Who is the least obvious person?

Newbie, right?  So nkirbit or AHoppy.  Maybe mgp?

[Robz888]

Scum picked the least obvious person. Who is the least obvious person?

Newbie, right?  So nkirbit or AHoppy.  Maybe mgp?

But isn't a newbie a little TOO unobvious? I was thinking sudy, liopoil, mail-mi.

[spiritbears]

Scum picked the least obvious person. Who is the least obvious person?

I think that would be you. After all no one would expect the obiousr choice right?

[liopoil]

Vote:RVS. I had this revalation the other day: it doesn't actually do anything for town! Nobody end up looking at RVS votes for something to analyze early, they look to other posts, generally theory posts. so let's theory talk, like some of us have been! Personally, I had thought there was a fair chance I would be chosen too, but I wasn't. However, the vets I think are still likely to be recruited. I think I would have chosen Eevee. Yuma and robz aren't out of the question either: the scum can always say, oh wifom, you can't figure anything out. of the newer players, I don't think nkirbit would be chosen because nobody has seen him play. MGP and TA, on the other hand... so really, most anyone is a valid choice. Also, I'm assuming that one scum was picked randomly to start. Worth noting: flavour name claims are strictly prohibited in the OP. so, let's not do that.

[Eevee]

Good point about the flavor name claims, I hadn't realized that.

I've wished we get a game where scum gets to pick their partners for a long time, seems interesting. I think it's quintenssential wifom, everyone would most like to have yuma or Robz in their team but they are also the most obvious choices. I don't think scum would go for the total newbie, as no one has seen him play andthe risk of him being atrocious and totally destroying their team seems unnecessary. Mod question: Is there one "grand mafioso" who chooses the team, or how was that done? Do even even know how many mafia there are?

The middling choices I think are most likely "lets not go too obvious either way", so people like liopoil, ashersky, TwistedArcher, myself. But meh, it's so person dependentant, and the temptation of picking Robz or yuma must be pretty big.

Also yay for someone agreeing with me about RVS. This kind of theory talk also seems very unlikely to hurt town, the best case scenario is that mafia slips somehow / we lynch mafia and get to back to see what he thought picking partners.

[liopoil]

I heavily suspect there's 3 mafia, based on raerae saying previously that she really wanted to run a three-person-scumteam game, and the plural in partnerS. 4 is way too many. as it is 3 in 12 is a fair bit, so I gotta hope we have a bunch of PRs.

[ashersky]

Good point about the flavor name claims, I hadn't realized that.

I've wished we get a game where scum gets to pick their partners for a long time, seems interesting. I think it's quintenssential wifom, everyone would most like to have yuma or Robz in their team but they are also the most obvious choices. I don't think scum would go for the total newbie, as no one has seen him play andthe risk of him being atrocious and totally destroying their team seems unnecessary. Mod question: Is there one "grand mafioso" who chooses the team, or how was that done? Do even even know how many mafia there are?

The middling choices I think are most likely "lets not go too obvious either way", so people like liopoil, ashersky, TwistedArcher, myself. But meh, it's so person dependentant, and the temptation of picking Robz or yuma must be pretty big.

Also yay for someone agreeing with me about RVS. This kind of theory talk also seems very unlikely to hurt town, the best case scenario is that mafia slips somehow / we lynch mafia and get to back to see what he thought picking partners.

Why am I middling?  Why are you?  Granted, I'm a terrible choice for scum partner, given my penchant for somehow being seen as super scummy, but I thought I had a fair chance at being picked.

I definitely would have gone with vet over newbie, I think.  Even with a night to plan and get to know someone in a QT, a partner you already know is going to be better, I think.

[Eevee]

3 mafia out of 12 seems fitting, yes. Still somewhat relevant if they did it popcorn-style or if one guy picked both partners, as if there was only one guy picking, I'd expect him often to pick people from different "categories".

mcmc is sort of an under the radar scum mastermind too, he is a very potential recruit I would think (not too obvious but is known to pull strong performances).

[ashersky]

3 mafia out of 12 seems fitting, yes. Still somewhat relevant if they did it popcorn-style or if one guy picked both partners, as if there was only one guy picking, I'd expect him often to pick people from different "categories".

mcmc is sort of an under the radar scum mastermind too, he is a very potential recruit I would think (not too obvious but is known to pull strong performances).

Ooh, mcmc, good call.  He's definitely on the radar.  With a three-man team, you go vet + newbie, right?  Spread out the wifom.

[Eevee]

Good point about the flavor name claims, I hadn't realized that.

I've wished we get a game where scum gets to pick their partners for a long time, seems interesting. I think it's quintenssential wifom, everyone would most like to have yuma or Robz in their team but they are also the most obvious choices. I don't think scum would go for the total newbie, as no one has seen him play andthe risk of him being atrocious and totally destroying their team seems unnecessary. Mod question: Is there one "grand mafioso" who chooses the team, or how was that done? Do even even know how many mafia there are?

The middling choices I think are most likely "lets not go too obvious either way", so people like liopoil, ashersky, TwistedArcher, myself. But meh, it's so person dependentant, and the temptation of picking Robz or yuma must be pretty big.

Also yay for someone agreeing with me about RVS. This kind of theory talk also seems very unlikely to hurt town, the best case scenario is that mafia slips somehow / we lynch mafia and get to back to see what he thought picking partners.

Why am I middling?  Why are you?  Granted, I'm a terrible choice for scum partner, given my penchant for somehow being seen as super scummy, but I thought I had a fair chance at being picked.

I definitely would have gone with vet over newbie, I think.  Even with a night to plan and get to know someone in a QT, a partner you already know is going to be better, I think.

I mean no offense to anyone here (or in any of these analysis posts), but I think we are middling because we are very experienced and won't (usually) screw up majorly, but we aren't the best either. "Safe choice", not a big risk like someone newer you don't know anything about, but not like yuma or Robz who probably run Cosa Nostra for a living or something. In the middle of the wifom-spectrum.

[Eevee]

3 mafia out of 12 seems fitting, yes. Still somewhat relevant if they did it popcorn-style or if one guy picked both partners, as if there was only one guy picking, I'd expect him often to pick people from different "categories".

mcmc is sort of an under the radar scum mastermind too, he is a very potential recruit I would think (not too obvious but is known to pull strong performances).

Ooh, mcmc, good call.  He's definitely on the radar.  With a three-man team, you go vet + newbie, right?  Spread out the wifom.

I agree. Well, I think there are three categories. "The most obvious" "middles" "the newer unknown players". If one guy did the picking, I'd expect him to pick from two different categories.

[Eevee]

Again I really don't mean that the newer players are worse at this game. Just a riskier choice as they haven't proven themselves yet, if that makes sense.

[yuma]

How about we all say who we think everyone would choose to be their partner?

For once I actually think this is something that would benefit town and has no benefit to scum so I will participate.

I would have picked ashersky so that we could bicker and fight like an old couple all game long like usual and everyone would just chalk it up to me and ashersky fighting like usual.

[Eevee]

Why just one name yuma? Three mafia, wouldn't there be two to pick?

I think I would have chosen mcmc+MGP or something like that, afraid of going to the extremes on either end but still wanting some experience in my team. But dunno, probably very random and dependant on the mood at the moment. Like, I doubt I would actually have thought about it much on the spot.

[yuma]

Why just one name yuma? Three mafia, wouldn't there be two to pick?

because ashersky said "their partner" not "their partners"

If I picked another it would probably be you, eevee, or mcmc or lio.

[Eevee]

The fact that a lot of people seem to agree the veterans that aren't the most obvious choices are the most likely choices means that myself, liopoil, mcmc and ashersky (give or take depending how you view different players obviously) are the ones in the spotlight early on, correct?

I really heavily doubt nkirbit is mafia, unless he was the one doing the choosing.

[yuma]

But dunno, probably very random and dependant on the mood at the moment. Like, I doubt I would actually have thought about it much on the spot.

Ha, I probably would have completely over thought it and stressed about it until I drove my wife crazy.

Either that or use a random number generator to pick for me....

[ashersky]

Why just one name yuma? Three mafia, wouldn't there be two to pick?

because ashersky said "their partner" not "their partners"

If I picked another it would probably be you, eevee, or mcmc or lio.

Can we be sure of scum numbers?  3-4/13 is standard (see my C9++ games), so maybe high for 12.  Definitely 2 or 3.  If someone could enlighten us, that'd be great.

I would have chosen Eevee, I think.  A reunion from MAII.  For a third, I think someone no one would associate with me, but that I know well from modding, like mail-mi or Lio.

[yuma]

I didn't even realize the scum were picking their partners. Fascinating.

How did you not realize this? What did you think those three PMs were all about then? You know the ones that you had to keep confirming?

Does anyone else find this post odd? Especially after this post:

So, this game is at first glance rather daunting. We have no idea what PRs are in effect.

Where it is apparent that Robz had read through the game setup because he knows we don't know what PRs are in the game.

vote: Robz

[ashersky]

How about we all say who we think everyone would choose to be their partner?

For once I actually think this is something that would benefit town and has no benefit to scum so I will participate.

I would have picked ashersky so that we could bicker and fight like an old couple all game long like usual and everyone would just chalk it up to me and ashersky fighting like usual.

Also, Yuma buddying like he's Eevee.  Scum tell!

[yuma]

Why just one name yuma? Three mafia, wouldn't there be two to pick?

because ashersky said "their partner" not "their partners"

If I picked another it would probably be you, eevee, or mcmc or lio.

Can we be sure of scum numbers?  3-4/13 is standard (see my C9++ games), so maybe high for 12.  Definitely 2 or 3.  If someone could enlighten us, that'd be great.

I would have chosen Eevee, I think.  A reunion from MAII.  For a third, I think someone no one would associate with me, but that I know well from modding, like mail-mi or Lio.

Game set-up (mostly) closed.  This is a twelve player game and mafia will be allowed to pick their partners.  There will be three rounds of PMs pre-game and each player will receive one PM per round.  Once again, anybody who hints at or claims their flavor name, will be mod-expelled.

Well pick their "partners" and the three rounds of PMs seems to indicate 3 scum.

[ashersky]

I didn't even realize the scum were picking their partners. Fascinating.

How did you not realize this? What did you think those three PMs were all about then? You know the ones that you had to keep confirming?

Does anyone else find this post odd? Especially after this post:

So, this game is at first glance rather daunting. We have no idea what PRs are in effect.

Where it is apparent that Robz had read through the game setup because he knows we don't know what PRs are in the game.

vote: Robz

Huh, didn't notice that.  He had clearly read the set-up info, which is like three sentences, one of which is about picking partners.  The not realizing thing could be classic "try not to seem like you know too much by acting like you don't even know the setup" thing.