Okay so this is why I think Jimmmm is most likely his partner. The one player that ashersky will stick his neck out for and defend d2 is Jimmmm. Remember this is when ashersky seems willing to lynch 8 other players at different points in the day. I'm going to reuse some quotes because I'm going to be interpreting them while looking at ashersky's relationship with Jimmm.
The Jimmmmm wagon starts building and at first ashersky doesn't comment on it much.
Eventually here ashersky tacitly backs the Jimmmm lynch, but pushes for more time, I assume thinking the wagon would eventually derail. Here it's ashersky who proposes we wait long enough for Jimmmm to defend himself, counting on him to come up with his own defense. Before this he didn't comment much on the Jimmmm lynch which makes me think he was hoping it would go away without him having to step in. These quotes were back to back.
What's Jimmmmm at now? Should we just lynch? Might be better to get to night.
You can lynch me now, or you can lynch me tomorrow after I've had time to form reads and make people justify their vote.
Quote from: Jimmmmm on March 27, 2013, 08:02:01 pm
You can lynch me now, or you can lynch me tomorrow after I've had time to form reads and make people justify their vote.
Are you good with a soft Jimmmmm lynch deadline? Say tomorrow at 8:00 p.m. forum time?
This is actually a very good way to try and stop a lynch. It looks really towny because you're being very reasonable.
Then he tries to redirect the Jimmmm lynch to me.
Jimmmmm has until midnight tomorrow to contribute his promised reads, a deadline he himself proposed. I say we just leave it at that.
Separately, unvote based on raerae's read, as I said I would. Not that mcmc is free of suspicion now, but he's not D2's lynch.
I think mail-mi is just playing badly as town right now, and not intentionally as scum.
Jorbles seems scummy from recent comments, and could see a Jorbles lynch being a good one. I don't like the "let's see if he lives through the night" comment at all, and his vote jumping with regards to Jimmmmm seems opportunistic ("oh, he was at L-2? Gotta keep that chance going!").
vote: jorbles
Then he goes after yuma.
Then he tries to redirect the lynch off Jimmmm to anyone it'll stick to.
I don't think Jimmmmm will flip scum, so I won't contribute to his lynch.
I think Jorbles, mcmc, Ozle (same case on him as on Yuma), and Yuma are better lynches. With those, even mislynches tell us more than Jimmmmm-easy-lynch.
Then he tries to redirect to Ozle.
Quote from: yuma on March 29, 2013, 09:50:09 pm
Quote from: sudgy on March 29, 2013, 09:38:18 pm
I had been getting kind of suspicious of yuma anyway at that point. And that was a better case than most in this game, and you said it was a horrible case. That just confirms my vote a bit more.
but again I ask: is this "case" more worthwhile than the obvious relationships that have been established between kooshie and mcmc/jimmm?
I don't really see Jimmmmm and Kooshie tied like I do mcmc and her.
Ozle has been actively scummier, where jimmmmm has be more lurky.
Lynch pref now:
Ozle >>> Yuma >>> Jorbles >>> mcmc
Vote: Ozle
He even suggests no lynching over lynching Jimmmm.
We are at even parity...we could no lynch.
He again tries to derail the lynch by planting suspicion of yuma.
If jimmmmm flips town, Yuma knows we are coming after him hard for pushing a mislynch against all opposition.
Basically, jimmmmm flips town (as I think he will) and I open D3 with a Yuma vote that will not go away.
Finally he offers to hammer Jimmmm, but not seriously just to see if he can turn the wagon on yuma, and to try and convince yuma that he's town. This was when Jimmmm was at L-1.
yuma, if I hammer Jimmmmm, will it change your mind about me?
Quote from: mail-mi on April 01, 2013, 12:21:30 am
Ash, if I unvote, then you vote and I can has hammer? It would be my first one.
I don't want to lynch Jimmmmm; I want to see what yuma will say if I agree to lynch him against my own best judgement.
He continues to defend Jimmmm.
Mcmc, read yuma's argument with me for why Jimmmmm is townish to me.
He's not guaranteed town, by any means, just less likely to be scum than at least three other options today. I want to lynch someone who has a better chance of flipping scum.
At this point the Jimmmm wagon begins to dissipate, but there's one more interesting post from ashersky:
Okay, just finished a re-read of D1. Here are my thoughts:
--I had town reads early to mid D1 on yuma and Ozle. That's funny to me, given how I feel about them now.
--I had a scum reads on Jimmmmm and mcmc all day.
--I think liopoil is town. He started the Kooshie wagon and kept it going all day. That isn't a scum!liopoil move.
--Insom REALLY lurked his way through D1 (and now D2).
--Eevee has not been suspected much at all, even though he contributed very little on D1.
The bolding is mine. He had a scum read on Jimmm day 1, but after Kooshie gets lynched and the town all suspects Jimmm. Now ashersky is unwilling to vote Jimmm at all? I looked and I couldn't find ashersky's defense of Jimmmm as to why he thought Jimmmm wasn't scum. It mostly seems to imply that he thinks that people going after Jimmmm are scummier than Jimmm, but he doesn't give any reason why Jimmmm wouldn't be scum.
I think it's ashersky, and I think based on their d2 interactions I think Jimmmm is his partner.