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[Captain_Frisk]

I'm really worried that this is the moment where spectators will say, "NO ROBZ! YOU WERE DOING SO WELL, AND THEY TRICKED YOU INTO MASSCLAIM! NOOOOO...."

I'm really, really worried scum are Grujah, Frisk, and Jo, and am about to look like an idiot. On the other hand, they are desperate to know this scum setup, which is something scum don't need to know, so... fine.

Disclaimer: I played a game with ehunt today on iso. 

He mentioned that he was following MXII closely.  I said I was ALSO following it closely, and that I look forward to discussing when it is over.

He said that the spectator topic is very loud.  That was the extent of the conversation.  (Oh - and I won) Hi Specs!

[Robz888]

I tracked ashersky last night. My result was: cayvie, ashersky.

After a lot of questioning the narrator as tow how someone could target himself, I deduce that this was because Eevee his behind ashersky. Therefore, my tracking actually tracked ashersky/Eevve, where as ashersky shot and killed cayvie, and Eevee hid behind ashersky.

This should explain my above-and-beyond claim that there is no Serial Killer, since I could account for all the kills.

Furthermore, Cuzz seemed confused at the start of Day 2 in the same way that I was, which is why his story about protecting Eevee made sense to me, because I was in a similar boat trying to reconcile my night action to the death toll on Day 2.

[Captain_Frisk]

......... I am a Tracker.

Of course I don't believe you, but if you are telling the truth, then obviously you want to hold off on disclosing who you tracked until after the claiming.

[Captain_Frisk]

PPE - DOH

[Robz888]

PPE - DOH

I thought of that, but no scum was actually going to be worried that I knew anything incriminating, since I was so resistant to even say anything.

[Robz888]

PPE - DOH

I thought of that, but no scum was actually going to be worried that I knew anything incriminating, since I was so resistant to even say anything.

And I suspect I mightbe a higher priority kill than you anyway, Mr. Jailkeeper, hence my hesitance.

[Captain_Frisk]

I tracked ashersky last night. My result was: cayvie, ashersky.

After a lot of questioning the narrator as tow how someone could target himself, I deduce that this was because Eevee his behind ashersky. Therefore, my tracking actually tracked ashersky/Eevve, where as ashersky shot and killed cayvie, and Eevee hid behind ashersky.

This should explain my above-and-beyond claim that there is no Serial Killer, since I could account for all the kills.

Furthermore, Cuzz seemed confused at the start of Day 2 in the same way that I was, which is why his story about protecting Eevee made sense to me, because I was in a similar boat trying to reconcile my night action to the death toll on Day 2.

Finally - only 2 deaths doesn't mean no serial killer, as I discussed a long time ago. 

I could have blocked the SK
I could have protected either the mafia or SK kill (obviously I didn't stop ashers kill)
SK could be bulletproof

[Robz888]

I tracked ashersky last night. My result was: cayvie, ashersky.

After a lot of questioning the narrator as tow how someone could target himself, I deduce that this was because Eevee his behind ashersky. Therefore, my tracking actually tracked ashersky/Eevve, where as ashersky shot and killed cayvie, and Eevee hid behind ashersky.

This should explain my above-and-beyond claim that there is no Serial Killer, since I could account for all the kills.

Furthermore, Cuzz seemed confused at the start of Day 2 in the same way that I was, which is why his story about protecting Eevee made sense to me, because I was in a similar boat trying to reconcile my night action to the death toll on Day 2.

Finally - only 2 deaths doesn't mean no serial killer, as I discussed a long time ago. 

I could have blocked the SK
I could have protected either the mafia or SK kill (obviously I didn't stop ashers kill)
SK could be bulletproof

I know that, as I said along time ago. But I think it makes the Serial Killer much less likely. Especially because I doubt the validity of all these claims.

[Captain_Frisk]

PPE - DOH

I thought of that, but no scum was actually going to be worried that I knew anything incriminating, since I was so resistant to even say anything.

And I suspect I mightbe a higher priority kill than you anyway, Mr. Jailkeeper, hence my hesitance.

I doubt it.  Tracker is a weak role, you have to catch the killer AND survive AND convince people. I can prevent a kill 2 ways.  Do you remember how we vetoed jailkeeper in M8 IMMEDIATELY? 

The serial killer (if there is one) might think differently though.

[jotheonah]

I'm really worried that this is the moment where spectators will say, "NO ROBZ! YOU WERE DOING SO WELL, AND THEY TRICKED YOU INTO MASSCLAIM! NOOOOO...."

I'm really, really worried scum are Grujah, Frisk, and Jo, and am about to look like an idiot. On the other hand, they are desperate to know this scum setup, which is something scum don't need to know, so... fine.

Disclaimer: I played a game with ehunt today on iso. 

He mentioned that he was following MXII closely.  I said I was ALSO following it closely, and that I look forward to discussing when it is over.

He said that the spectator topic is very loud.  That was the extent of the conversation.  (Oh - and I won) Hi Specs!

This doesn't surprise me at all. This is probably the most fun I've had at mafia since M-II.

Is it still possible that all claims are true at this point? Or is there definitely a liar now?

[Robz888]

PPE - DOH

I thought of that, but no scum was actually going to be worried that I knew anything incriminating, since I was so resistant to even say anything.

And I suspect I mightbe a higher priority kill than you anyway, Mr. Jailkeeper, hence my hesitance.

I doubt it.  Tracker is a weak role, you have to catch the killer AND survive AND convince people. I can prevent a kill 2 ways.  Do you remember how we vetoed jailkeeper in M8 IMMEDIATELY? 

The serial killer (if there is one) might think differently though.

Well, the strongman stuff diminishes your effectiveness a bit. Of course there's ninja kills to diminish me. BIt of a wash.

[Robz888]

I'm really worried that this is the moment where spectators will say, "NO ROBZ! YOU WERE DOING SO WELL, AND THEY TRICKED YOU INTO MASSCLAIM! NOOOOO...."

I'm really, really worried scum are Grujah, Frisk, and Jo, and am about to look like an idiot. On the other hand, they are desperate to know this scum setup, which is something scum don't need to know, so... fine.

Disclaimer: I played a game with ehunt today on iso. 

He mentioned that he was following MXII closely.  I said I was ALSO following it closely, and that I look forward to discussing when it is over.

He said that the spectator topic is very loud.  That was the extent of the conversation.  (Oh - and I won) Hi Specs!

This doesn't surprise me at all. This is probably the most fun I've had at mafia since M-II.

Is it still possible that all claims are true at this point? Or is there definitely a liar now?

We now have 6 claimants. All claims could still be true.

[Robz888]

Yeah, that's the truly scary thing: what if they are all true?

Or in other words: A Vigilante, Hider, Jailkeeper, 2 Doctors, and a Tracker walk into a bar. They don't catch any mafia and lose the game. Funny!

[Captain_Frisk]

I'm really worried that this is the moment where spectators will say, "NO ROBZ! YOU WERE DOING SO WELL, AND THEY TRICKED YOU INTO MASSCLAIM! NOOOOO...."

I'm really, really worried scum are Grujah, Frisk, and Jo, and am about to look like an idiot. On the other hand, they are desperate to know this scum setup, which is something scum don't need to know, so... fine.

Disclaimer: I played a game with ehunt today on iso. 

He mentioned that he was following MXII closely.  I said I was ALSO following it closely, and that I look forward to discussing when it is over.

He said that the spectator topic is very loud.  That was the extent of the conversation.  (Oh - and I won) Hi Specs!

This doesn't surprise me at all. This is probably the most fun I've had at mafia since M-II.

Is it still possible that all claims are true at this point? Or is there definitely a liar now?

Still legal.  We have "room" for 1 more claim.

The odds of the game rolling 7 power roles is 0.83%, but given that we have 3 (myself + the 2 deadones), the odds of having exactly 6 is ~7%, and the odds of having 7 is ~1.5%

[Robz888]

Yes. So I will take my chances on the least credible claim actually being false. We should lynch Grujah.

[Robz888]

To his scummates: Jo and Frisk perhaps,

Congrats, you got us to reveal our roles. Now die.

[Captain_Frisk]

Oh - I will admit that RobZ's claim is plausible based on my night action target.

The specifics of his result are very interesting.  I'm actually inclined to believe it, because honestly I don't think I would have been savvy enough to remember to add Asher to the result of tracking someone who had been hid behind.

Unvote

[Captain_Frisk]

To his scummates: Jo and Frisk perhaps,

Congrats, you got us to reveal our roles. Now die.

Us?

[Robz888]

Oh - I will admit that RobZ's claim is plausible based on my night action target.

The specifics of his result are very interesting.  I'm actually inclined to believe it, because honestly I don't think I would have been savvy enough to remember to add Asher to the result of tracking someone who had been hid behind.

Unvote

It took an embarrassingly thorough amount of back-and-forth with Voltgloss for me to understand the result. I was convinced--wrongly--that bus driving had something to do with it.

[Robz888]

To his scummates: Jo and Frisk perhaps,

Congrats, you got us the townies with roles, one of which is meto reveal our roles. Now die.

Us?

Fixed that for me.

[Insomniac]

I whole-heartedly support the Grujah wagon but since it has been started we should finish the mass claim shouldn't we? I haven't claimed yet because no one has asked me to claim yet.

[Captain_Frisk]

To his scummates: Jo and Frisk perhaps,

Congrats, you got us the townies with roles, one of which is meto reveal our roles. Now die.

Us?

Fixed that for me.

Ummm... as far as I understand it, the only claims that were forced out thus far was yours, since you think that Grujah and I are scum.

Cuzz's claim however... who forced that out?

Vote Count 2-9
Cuzz (4): Grujah, Robz888, Captain_Frisk, Insomniac

We need your claim, Cuzz.

[Robz888]

To his scummates: Jo and Frisk perhaps,

Congrats, you got us the townies with roles, one of which is meto reveal our roles. Now die.

Us?

Fixed that for me.

Ummm... as far as I understand it, the only claims that were forced out thus far was yours, since you think that Grujah and I are scum.

Cuzz's claim however... who forced that out?

Vote Count 2-9
Cuzz (4): Grujah, Robz888, Captain_Frisk, Insomniac

We need your claim, Cuzz.

You're right, my mistake. You deserve to be able to gloat about convincing me to out my power role.

[jotheonah]

BTW, while we're calculating worst case scenarios: I just looked through the setup and noticed the SK could ALSO have a Strongman kill.

[Robz888]

BTW, while we're calculating worst case scenarios: I just looked through the setup and noticed the SK could ALSO have a Strongman kill.

You didn't know that already?