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[Insomniac]

He meant that volt has 2 people voting for you but you only have 1 vote.

[Captain_Frisk]

Vote Count 2-15

O (1): theorel
Grujah (4): Cuzz, Insomniac, sparky5856, Robz888
Insomniac (1): Grujah
Robz888 (1): jotheonah, Captain_Frisk

Not voting {1}: O

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Lynch deadline: Saturday, October 13, 3:00 p.m. EDT

EDIT:  Grujah vote count fixed

How about the RobZ vote?

What about the Robz vote? I don't think it's a good idea for massclaim, no.

I count 2 people voting for RobZ, and yet the count reads 1.

[Robz888]

I definitely have 2 people voting for me for realz.

[Captain_Frisk]

So you wanted me to claim JK pre L-1, but you're not willing to do the same now?  Gotit.

[Robz888]

So you wanted me to claim JK pre L-1, but you're not willing to do the same now?  Gotit.

Yes, because the object was to see if there was a JK, because of the Doctor claims. And remember when you refused to claim it anyway? Got it.

[Cuzz]

So you wanted me to claim JK pre L-1, but you're not willing to do the same now?  Gotit.

Yes, because the object was to see if there was a JK, because of the Doctor claims. And remember when you refused to claim it anyway? Got it.

Robz, be fair. You can't have expected him to come up with all that before taking the time to do a little research on how it could backfire, right?

[Robz888]

So you wanted me to claim JK pre L-1, but you're not willing to do the same now?  Gotit.

Yes, because the object was to see if there was a JK, because of the Doctor claims. And remember when you refused to claim it anyway? Got it.

Robz, be fair. You can't have expected him to come up with all that before taking the time to do a little research on how it could backfire, right?

Well sure. I mean both plans were flawed. They are only going to confirm things if you trust certain people. I've made up my mind about Grujah-Frisk. I don't furuther disclosure of roles is productive for the town. If you disagree, you'll have to take me to L-1.

[Captain_Frisk]

I've made up my mind about Grujah-Frisk.

I can promise that you are wrong.

[Robz888]

I've made up my mind about Grujah-Frisk.

I can promise that you are wrong.

Frisk, do you know for sure that Grujah is not scum? I don't know how you, as the Jailkeeper, could know that.

[Robz888]

I've made up my mind about Grujah-Frisk.

I can promise that you are wrong.

I don't doubt that I could be wrong. I never doubt that. But then what do we do? We have to look outside of these three, and I'm not looking at me, so then it's O-Jo-Ins-theorel-sparky again. And to be sure, there's at least 1 scum there regardless, in all likelihood. But I have no idea who it is.

[Captain_Frisk]

I've made up my mind about Grujah-Frisk.

I can promise that you are wrong.

Frisk, do you know for sure that Grujah is not scum? I don't know how you, as the Jailkeeper, could know that.

I do not know.  I know that I am not.

[Captain_Frisk]

I just don't think that Grujah is stupid enough to claim something so crazy.

[Robz888]

I've made up my mind about Grujah-Frisk.

I can promise that you are wrong.

Frisk, do you know for sure that Grujah is not scum? I don't know how you, as the Jailkeeper, could know that.

I do not know.  I know that I am not.

So who do you think we should lynch? I'm glad that you're here and involved right now, FYI, although I can't help but think it was opportunistic to save your scumbuddy, whose death would have put your team in bad straits and possibly indicted you as a likely scum.

[jotheonah]

But is he crazy enough to claim something so stupid?

[Voltgloss]

Apologies for mistakes in previous vote count.

Vote Count 2-16

O (1): theorel
Grujah (4): Cuzz, Insomniac, sparky5856, Robz888
Insomniac (1): Grujah
Robz888 (2): jotheonah, Captain_Frisk

Not voting {1}: O

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Lynch deadline: Saturday, October 13, 3:00 p.m. EDT

[jotheonah]

We can skip Robz's claim; he already claimed way back on page 4:

@Robz/Jo
With how hard you guys are pushing this PPS thing though the only way I see it going down is

PPS: Don't know what to tell you guys I'm just a VT

Robz/Jo (in near unison): Not good enough PPS I'm happy with my vote on you.

Insane, and insaner. Okay, we'll all just claim VT, if we are one? I'm a VT, too. Jo, go ahead and claim VT, or say nothing about your role. But if you're a VT, go ahead! There's nothing wrong with it!

So, theorel, you're up.

[Robz888]

Tell me why theorel should claim.

[Captain_Frisk]

So who do you think we should lynch? I'm glad that you're here and involved right now, FYI, although I can't help but think it was opportunistic to save your scumbuddy, whose death would have put your team in bad straits and possibly indicted you as a likely scum.

Ok, from my perspective.

I'm going to assume that at least 1 doctor is not lying.  I'll happily lose and laugh about it if they are both doctors.

No lying, then there are at least 3 scum, possibly 4 remaining among the remaining 6.

1 lying.  If there no other PRs, then there are still 3 scum remaining in other 6.  If there is another PR out there, then perhaps we only have 2 scum in that group of 6.

My #1 suspect is Joth.  I think that pushing for the JK claim was obviously bad - for reasons that I have covered at length.  I claimed because refusing to answer is just as bad as claiming from scum's perspective.  (Unless Cuzz / Grujah is a SK, scum ALREADY know whether or not they are lying, and whether or not there is a JK)

The problem is that I view every single person as scummy.  Grujah is my least scummy suspect because his claim is so incredibly boneheaded as scum its not even funny.  He's basically gambling that I existed.

PPE: Joth - I didn't take that claim seriously.

[Captain_Frisk]

Everyone should claim to force scum to get on the record, because I suspect we've probably already outted 2 PRs.  I'm going to be the #1 kill priority.  The doctor(s) is probably #2.

Any town PRs that claim are going to be much lower on the chain to die, and we will force scum to put themselves on the record.

[Robz888]

Everyone should claim to force scum to get on the record, because I suspect we've probably already outted 2 PRs.  I'm going to be the #1 kill priority.  The doctor(s) is probably #2.

Any town PRs that claim are going to be much lower on the chain to die, and we will force scum to put themselves on the record.

But if you're lying, you're certainly not the scum's number one kill priority. And if you AND Grujah are lying, awful awful awful.

[Captain_Frisk]

And if you AND Grujah are lying, awful awful awful.

You and I are in perfect agreement about how awful that play would be.

[Robz888]

And if you AND Grujah are lying, awful awful awful.

You and I are in perfect agreement about how awful that play would be.

No, I mean the result would be awful for town, if we listened to you and this were the case.

[Robz888]

Frisk, I do understand what you're saying. But it's just too much of a leap for me, who doesn't know if you're scum.

[Cuzz]

Robz what is the downside for town of a massclaim at this point? 3 PRs have claimed so if Frisk or Grujah are not lying there's a lot of NK targets and protection WIFOM. If I'm the only one not lying, then I'm dead tonight no matter what. Even if someone claims cop scum have to kill the protective role first.

[Insomniac]

Robz what is the downside for town of a massclaim at this point? 3 PRs have claimed so if Frisk or Grujah are not lying there's a lot of NK targets and protection WIFOM. If I'm the only one not lying, then I'm dead tonight no matter what. Even if someone claims cop scum have to kill the protective role first.

If someone claims cop I'm lynching them first. (This setup cannot have a cop)