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[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

@Insom, man yeah those crumbs were risky business. They worked out really well for us this time, but idk.

I know some people aren't as good at finding crumbs and this was my first normalish game (barring ongoing games) as a town power role. So I wanted to breadcrumb it hard.

And I mean Eevee and Robz at least didn't notice it, I don't think Frisk did either. I only saw Shaereye and you say you caught it actually so it's good to see who catches crumbs and who doesn't.

I caught it, but wondered if it was too obvious to be real.

[Insomniac]

On the subject of tie votes at deadlines:

I PM'ed Voltaire during the thread lock end of D1, because I was surprised Frisk died.  I was working under the "all time high number of votes" interpretation of the tie-breaking rule, rather than the "snapshot" version.  His post in-thread differentiating those two notions only made me aware that there were two ways to look at it, but did not allow me to trace it for myself. I want to be clear that I'm completely comfortable with the ruling, AND Voltaire's explanation to me, AND the consummate grace with which he handled my inquiry.  I am particularly impressed that he was wise enough not to change anything midstream.  As we say in poker, the floorman's decision is final.

I would like to suggest that, if we keep the mechanism that currently in place (and there is already discussion that we may not), the specifics of the mechanism should be codified in a clear and unambiguous way, so that all players are on a level playing field regarding exactly what triggers the taking of the "snapshot" that is applicable in breaking ties.

Voltaire ran it the same way I would have.

[Voltgloss]

Query:  would this setup have been better with:

1) 3 cops, 3 VT, 3 scum; or
2) 2 cops, 5 VT, 2 scum?

#2 removes the Android.  Just one cop of each flavor (so, one is a quack).

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

Shraeye - I hope that you are the kind of person that knows that what happens in the game is just the game playing out, but I do need to apologize for something I did without realizing until later how disrespectful it was.

Me finding your name difficult to type at first was no excuse for changing it outright, when it could have just been shortened (to Shra for instance), or modified to something like SHR. Purposefully choosing a version that was an outright misspelling seems (now) like an affront that I would never have intentionally inflicted.  When I realized how rude it may have seemed, I changed back to the correct spelling.  I'm really sorry.

Edited to remove an orphan paren.

[Voltaire]

Query:  would this setup have been better with:

1) 3 cops, 3 VT, 3 scum; or
2) 2 cops, 5 VT, 2 scum?

#2 removes the Android.  Just one cop of each flavor (so, one is a quack).

I'd think 2. 1 has the possibility of lylo D2.

[Galzria]

Galz you still haven't inned for ZM3...not impressed.

I'm rather unimpressive.

[Voltaire]

Query:  would this setup have been better with:

1) 3 cops, 3 VT, 3 scum; or
2) 2 cops, 5 VT, 2 scum?

#2 removes the Android.  Just one cop of each flavor (so, one is a quack).

I'd think 2. 1 has the possibility of lylo D2.

Another potential way to balance this (maybe) is to give scum a PR, like usual.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

On the subject of tie votes at deadlines:

I PM'ed Voltaire during the thread lock end of D1, because I was surprised Frisk died.  I was working under the "all time high number of votes" interpretation of the tie-breaking rule, rather than the "snapshot" version.  His post in-thread differentiating those two notions only made me aware that there were two ways to look at it, but did not allow me to trace it for myself. I want to be clear that I'm completely comfortable with the ruling, AND Voltaire's explanation to me, AND the consummate grace with which he handled my inquiry.  I am particularly impressed that he was wise enough not to change anything midstream.  As we say in poker, the floorman's decision is final.

I would like to suggest that, if we keep the mechanism that currently in place (and there is already discussion that we may not), the specifics of the mechanism should be codified in a clear and unambiguous way, so that all players are on a level playing field regarding exactly what triggers the taking of the "snapshot" that is applicable in breaking ties.

Voltaire ran it the same way I would have.

Yes, and he let me know that.    Again my issue is not at all related to what happened (how could I not be thrilled, I was town). Please, please know that.  Voltaire certainly does, I've made it clear to him.

I simply have a strong desire for no one else to be in the position I was in, which was to operate under the "all time high" interpretation.  Under such an interpretation, Jo was in the unenviable position of lynching himself simply by changing his vote to anyone else but the person it was on at the time.  Jo was the very first person (among Jo, Frisk) to 3 votes.

Edited to supply the word "thrilled".

[Galzria]

Also, Insomniac, odd thing - but I don't think I've ever once thought that a post of yours came across snarky. O.o

[Insomniac]

Also, Insomniac, odd thing - but I don't think I've ever once thought that a post of yours came across snarky. O.o

That actually means a lot, I've really tried to not be snarky in general, I try to debate with people when I 'argue' because it's just a game and theres no point in hurting people's feelings over it or getting hurt by it IMO

[Voltaire]

Also, Insomniac, odd thing - but I don't think I've ever once thought that a post of yours came across snarky. O.o

Frisk is the one who has always seemed snarky to me...

[shraeye]

Shraeye - I hope that you are the kind of person that knows that what happens in the game is just the game playing out, but I do need to apologize for something I did without realizing until later how disrespectful it was.

Me finding your name difficult to type at first was no excuse for changing it outright, when it could have just been shortened (to Shra for instance), or modified to something like SHR. Purposefully choosing a version that was an outright misspelling seems (now) like an affront that I would never have intentionally inflicted.  When I realized how rude it may have seemed, I changed back to the correct spelling.  I'm really sorry.

Edited to remove an orphan paren.

Yeah, when I'm shorthanding my name, I spell it as shray.  But it's been spelled every which way in the past.  Schray, shraye, shraey, shrae.  None of those bother me much.  Once somebody (can't remember who) typed shar.  That is annoying.

[Insomniac]

I call this method of tie dispute the Galz.

"In the event of a tie, neither player will be lynched, the player who has the lowest vote count for the day will be lynched instead."

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

I call this method of tie dispute the Galz.

"In the event of a tie, neither player will be lynched, the player who has the lowest vote count for the day will be lynched instead."

Me likey.

[Voltaire]

I call this method of tie dispute the Galz.

"In the event of a tie, neither player will be lynched, the player who has the lowest vote count for the day will be lynched instead."

But what if that's a tie, too?

*bum-bum-BUM*

[Insomniac]

I call this method of tie dispute the Galz.

"In the event of a tie, neither player will be lynched, the player who has the lowest vote count for the day will be lynched instead."

But what if that's a tie, too?

*bum-bum-BUM*

Double lynch.

[Galzria]

I call this method of tie dispute the Galz.

"In the event of a tie, neither player will be lynched, the player who has the lowest vote count for the day will be lynched instead."

But what if that's a tie, too?

*bum-bum-BUM*

Double lynch.

I'm always up for 2 lunches.

[yuma]

So who was the MVP?

[Voltaire]

So who was the MVP?

The system?

If not, then I'm giving it to Insomniac for getting away with softclaiming Android D1, and for finding the scumpair D1, even if he didn't know it. SfS pointed this out, sarcastically. Little did he know...

[Insomniac]

Haha I forgot about that post too

[jotheonah]

Dude I was so obviously MVP. I was responsible for Robz voting Frisk (by suggesting random) and I voted Frisk. So I was behind 2/3 of the Day 1 scum lynch that clinched the game.


On an unrelated note, I used to be annoyed by "jo" and "joth" but nowadays the only shortening of my forum name that bugs me is "Jonah" (my real name). I just find it jarring to see it used here. I quite like "Joth."

[shraeye]

Should there be a place where we all decide what we are willing to be called? Both names and pronouns?

[Captain_Frisk]

Dude I was so obviously MVP. I was responsible for Robz voting Frisk (by suggesting random) and I voted Frisk. So I was behind 2/3 of the Day 1 scum lynch that clinched the game.


On an unrelated note, I used to be annoyed by "jo" and "joth" but nowadays the only shortening of my forum name that bugs me is "Jonah" (my real name). I just find it jarring to see it used here. I quite like "Joth."

Sorry.  I do that because writing your forum name is a pain in the ass

[jotheonah]

no worries. I don't take offense to it, whatever people wanna call me is fine.

my forum name is a typo which just, probably says a lot about me right there.

[shraeye]

J--->onah?