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Re: ZM2: Mafia in Space! - TOWN WINS (first f.ds D1 scum lynch)
« Reply #625 on: September 19, 2012, 10:57:44 pm »

it was supposed to be j to the onah, which I use on iso and lots of other places. (including twitter)

But I mistyped and left the first T out.
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Re: ZM2: Mafia in Space! - TOWN WINS (first f.ds D1 scum lynch)
« Reply #626 on: September 19, 2012, 10:59:58 pm »

no worries. I don't take offense to it, whatever people wanna call me is fine.

my forum name is a typo which just, probably says a lot about me right there.

theory is capable of changing your forum name; I had mine changed to coincide with my iso name (my forum name was originally shedjed)
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Re: ZM2: Mafia in Space! - TOWN WINS (first f.ds D1 scum lynch)
« Reply #627 on: September 19, 2012, 11:01:08 pm »

no worries. I don't take offense to it, whatever people wanna call me is fine.

my forum name is a typo which just, probably says a lot about me right there.

theory is capable of changing your forum name; I had mine changed to coincide with my iso name (my forum name was originally shedjed)

oh man. I dunno. I've sort of embraced the typo at this point.
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Re: ZM2: Mafia in Space! - TOWN WINS (first f.ds D1 scum lynch)
« Reply #628 on: September 19, 2012, 11:03:16 pm »

no worries. I don't take offense to it, whatever people wanna call me is fine.

my forum name is a typo which just, probably says a lot about me right there.

theory is capable of changing your forum name; I had mine changed to coincide with my iso name (my forum name was originally shedjed)

oh man. I dunno. I've sort of embraced the typo at this point.
yeah I can understand that, I am glad I changed mine now... I just can't see myself as anyone but yuma at this point...
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Re: ZM2: Mafia in Space! - TOWN WINS (first f.ds D1 scum lynch)
« Reply #629 on: September 19, 2012, 11:14:30 pm »

Wow. Great Job everybody! All Scum eliminated in 3 days, and Scum lynched D1!

I do have to ask though: Robz, why did you kill me? :P
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Re: ZM2: Mafia in Space! - TOWN WINS (first f.ds D1 scum lynch)
« Reply #630 on: September 19, 2012, 11:47:50 pm »

Wow. Great Job everybody! All Scum eliminated in 3 days, and Scum lynched D1!

I do have to ask though: Robz, why did you kill me? :P

Because you were on the Frisk wagon, which was a correct wagon. I was banking on the logic that it would be insane for scum to kill scum Day 1, therefore everyone on Frisk's wagon should look town.
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Re: ZM2: Mafia in Space! - TOWN WINS (first f.ds D1 scum lynch)
« Reply #631 on: September 20, 2012, 12:00:48 am »

Aww, well that makes sense.

You were in a tight spot, but you played very well. I never suspected you as mafia (well until the math made sense).

Good Job! :)
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Re: ZM2: Mafia in Space! - TOWN WINS (first f.ds D1 scum lynch)
« Reply #632 on: September 20, 2012, 12:16:25 am »

Thanks! I was suffering from fancy play syndrome, I think. But Blitz mafia is the best time to try such things, and I'm not sure scum was going to win this setup more than 1 time out of 5 anyway.
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Re: ZM2: Mafia in Space! - TOWN WINS (first f.ds D1 scum lynch)
« Reply #633 on: September 20, 2012, 09:49:51 am »

Dude I was so obviously MVP. I was responsible for Robz voting Frisk (by suggesting random) and I voted Frisk. So I was behind 2/3 of the Day 1 scum lynch that clinched the game.
Then I say it's up to others to decide. Insomniac or jotheonah?
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Re: ZM2: Mafia in Space! - TOWN WINS (first f.ds D1 scum lynch)
« Reply #634 on: September 20, 2012, 09:51:05 am »

I think it should go to Insomniac personally.
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Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: ZM2: Mafia in Space! - TOWN WINS (first f.ds D1 scum lynch)
« Reply #635 on: September 20, 2012, 09:57:15 am »

I think it should go to Insomniac personally.

Not that Joth was bad here - but the successful breadcrumbing of cop, picked up by town and not scum, was hugely beneficial to changing the tone of D1. Given the town-town scuffle between Insomniac and Joth, I think that Joth is lucky to have come through alive considering how many people were uncomfortable (and rightly so!) With lynching Ins.

Besides, Joth may have proposed the 'meathod' that lynched scum D1... But Robz did the dirty work. Seriously, CF was lynched with a wagon half-full of his own faction! ;}

Nope, Joth played a good game, but I vote Insomniac for MVP. Joth can have the VT MVP though. ;D
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Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: ZM2: Mafia in Space! - TOWN WINS (first f.ds D1 scum lynch)
« Reply #636 on: September 20, 2012, 10:04:51 am »

+1 to Galz's phone, which prefers autocorrecting to "meathod" instead of "method."
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Re: ZM2: Mafia in Space! - TOWN WINS (first f.ds D1 scum lynch)
« Reply #637 on: September 20, 2012, 10:06:08 am »

+1 to Galz's phone, which prefers autocorrecting to "meathod" instead of "method."

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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: ZM2: Mafia in Space! - TOWN WINS (first f.ds D1 scum lynch)
« Reply #638 on: September 20, 2012, 10:31:56 am »

Galz speaks the truth. I concede the MVP to Ins.

But I did know what I was doing Day 1. I know it appears that I just flailed around and happened to hit scum, but I was really playing a pretty high level game. By the time Frisk flipped, I was pretty sure he was scum.

Well, ok, there was some flailing. But the ratio of skill to flailing was, I would humbly suggest, higher than it looks. Which I'm excite about only because I'm usually not a super helpful townie (and my winrate on this site is atrocious).
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Re: ZM2: Mafia in Space! - TOWN WINS (first f.ds D1 scum lynch)
« Reply #639 on: September 20, 2012, 11:19:01 am »

Hah, I loved your flailing!  It made me laugh at least twice. 

Also, I'll give the nod to Robz, despite losing.  His unflinching day 1 bus of scum partner very nearly cleared him for life.  If only he had lynched Insom, I think the win could be scum's.
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Re: ZM2: Mafia in Space! - TOWN WINS (first f.ds D1 scum lynch)
« Reply #640 on: September 20, 2012, 11:54:39 am »

Hah, I loved your flailing!  It made me laugh at least twice. 

Also, I'll give the nod to Robz, despite losing.  His unflinching day 1 bus of scum partner very nearly cleared him for life.  If only he had lynched Insom, I think the win could be scum's.
Uhm no. Town was going to be a huge favorite to win after day1 no matter who they kill, too many confirmed townies. /sadnoonereadsmyposts
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Re: ZM2: Mafia in Space! - TOWN WINS (first f.ds D1 scum lynch)
« Reply #641 on: September 20, 2012, 12:37:56 pm »

Nah, if Robz had killed insom, we would have been in the only 2 conf-town situation we were worried about at the start of day 2.  I'm almost certain I would have been lynched since Insomniac had fingered me.  Then Robz gets another night kill.  So there would be 5 left, and It's possible that Robz had hit either ashersky or asher's investigatee.  Then we'd have maximum 2 conf-town, maybe just 1.  And every single person assuming that Robz couldn't be Frisk's partner due to the day 1 bussing.
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Re: ZM2: Mafia in Space! - TOWN WINS (first f.ds D1 scum lynch)
« Reply #642 on: September 20, 2012, 12:42:04 pm »

Nah, if Robz had killed insom, we would have been in the only 2 conf-town situation we were worried about at the start of day 2.  I'm almost certain I would have been lynched since Insomniac had fingered me.  Then Robz gets another night kill.  So there would be 5 left, and It's possible that Robz had hit either ashersky or asher's investigatee.  Then we'd have maximum 2 conf-town, maybe just 1.  And every single person assuming that Robz couldn't be Frisk's partner due to the day 1 bussing.
Three, archetype the quack cop he now killed instead, ashersky the actual cop and Joth who got cleared by Ashersky.

Day 2 town has to pick from 4, day 3 assuming Robz kills Ashersky town has to pick from 3, then Robz kills either quack-cop or Joth and finally we get a LyLo with 3 players left. Sure, if town would have mislynched 3 times we would have lost, but I wouldn't say "Robz would probably have won", clearly the odds were against him.
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Re: ZM2: Mafia in Space! - TOWN WINS (first f.ds D1 scum lynch)
« Reply #643 on: September 20, 2012, 12:52:54 pm »

The numbers were probably still agaisnt him.  But Insom vocally said that he had basically cleared Robz as obv-town.  I suspect he would have had a much better chance than simply looking at the raw numbers would suggest.

I'm gonna be unflinching in my support of Robz as MVP
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« Reply #644 on: September 20, 2012, 08:12:05 pm »

Dude I was so obviously MVP. I was responsible for Robz voting Frisk (by suggesting random) and I voted Frisk. So I was behind 2/3 of the Day 1 scum lynch that clinched the game.


On an unrelated note, I used to be annoyed by "jo" and "joth" but nowadays the only shortening of my forum name that bugs me is "Jonah" (my real name). I just find it jarring to see it used here. I quite like "Joth."
I'll do my best to make this change immediately.  Though I do think Jonah is an awesome name.
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« Reply #645 on: September 20, 2012, 08:19:06 pm »

I think it should go to Insomniac personally.
I'll second this (no offense Joth). I particularly enjoyed the post where he claimed and reported on D2 (so that I got to see there are certain circumstances under which that works).  I even agreed with the logic in that post about why it was safe to claim.  But when I got to the end of the game, I went "wait just a second here, logic screwed you in ZM2, better make triple sure here".
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« Reply #646 on: September 21, 2012, 01:11:49 am »

Dude I was so obviously MVP. I was responsible for Robz voting Frisk (by suggesting random) and I voted Frisk. So I was behind 2/3 of the Day 1 scum lynch that clinched the game.


On an unrelated note, I used to be annoyed by "jo" and "joth" but nowadays the only shortening of my forum name that bugs me is "Jonah" (my real name). I just find it jarring to see it used here. I quite like "Joth."
I'll do my best to make this change immediately.  Though I do think Jonah is an awesome name.

Don't get me wrong, I love it in general. My middle name is actually Clark, so between J. Jonah Jameson and Clark Kent I share names with two comic book newspaper men, which is pretty cool since I'm a geek and I work in journalism.
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