Not voting (86) -- ftl, Insomniac, Dsell, Young Nick O, Axxle, cayvie, theorel
what do the six of you--i am not counting Young Nick or cayvie in this--specifically have to say about Young Nick and the wagon on young nick? Who would you vote for instead and why aren't you voting for either young nick or that person?
Catching up...
(unlike many people) I don't feel a pressing need to vote for my biggest scum-read just because they're my biggest scum-read. I generally approach the game very differently from others, votes are about pacing, and by controlling my vote I help control the pacing of the game, hopefully to the benefit of town. In the same vein that I don't say "yn did one suspicious thing therefore he must be scum", I don't say, "yn is my biggest scum-read therefore I want to see him lynched". What I want to see is conversation about the lynch, whether it should happen, etc. At some point, if the conversation seems exhausted, I'll vote. Personally I think you can get a lot of useful information by not voting and talking and listening instead. This was how I determined that joth was town in MXII (though that ultimately didn't help since people refused to listen, preferring to just vote wherever they "felt" like scum would be).
Anyways, here's my interpretation of current events:
Young Nick:
1. He offered himself as a sacrifice for another player. In spite of the fact that EVERYONE always thinks this is a scum move, it so far never has been. The result thus far has been that we've always lynched the offerer, and he's always been town. Stupidest meta ever. (result slight town)
2. He's a flavor cop. Initially I was on board with his investigative powers seeming kind of scummy, then I went and looked it up. As far as mafia-wiki is concerned flavor cops are usually town aligned. (result slightly town)
3. He claimed to target eHalcyon at night. This was either a bad town play or a bad scum play or a lie. Well 2 out of three are scum reasons, and I like to think people that are playing what to me seems badly are in fact just scum playing well. (result slightly scum).
4. He's a little lurky. Whatever, this game is huge and impossible to engage in. Some players can engage in games like this, some can't. This is definitely a player-style thing, not a town v. scum thing.
Basically Young Nick seems townier than null, but not significantly.
O:
He's starting to participate now that he's being called out. This looks a lot like both Grujah and Frisk. Everything else he's done has been anti-town. But whatever, everything he did in MXII was anti-town also and he was town there, so obviously that's not useful information regarding O's alignment. Thursday midnight soft-deadline is suggested...so I'll vote here tomorrow if nothing changes.
shraeye:
He seems to have calmed down of late? I dunno, I certainly don't feel as repulsed by his recent posts. He posted his "reads" on everyone which is helpful. This is probably as close as I'll get to that though.
cayvie:
She's clarified that she was being intentionally misleading (which I had missed the first time, so thanks for reposting it). As she herself has noted: her targets make little sense if she's scum. So, if she's scum she's lying. For the moment, she feels honest...I'm not sure if I could identify scum-cayvie though.