Topic: Mafia XI: Find Yourself in the Courtyard Masquerade -- GAME OVER, TOWN WINS (Read 319777 times)

cayvie · « **Reply #2800 on:** October 30, 2012, 08:25:14 pm »

ahh, sorry, had it backwards, the theory was that town==intrigue

Axxle · « **Reply #2801 on:** October 30, 2012, 08:50:21 pm »

I want to lynch one of cayvie, YN, and shraeye. Mostly because of who the mafia targeted. They should have gone for one of these power roles. Maybe they didn't target YN because his role is useless, but they probably should have targeted cayvie who has this role that they have no idea what it does and might be too dangerous to let live. I want to lynch shraeye because eHalcyon was very critical of him yesterday.

Vote: shraeye

cayvie · « **Reply #2802 on:** October 30, 2012, 09:44:53 pm »

i reiterate, why does there seem to be no suspicion on O?

he role-blocked a claimed power role.

ashersky · « **Reply #2803 on:** October 30, 2012, 09:52:08 pm »

Quote from: cayvie on October 30, 2012, 09:44:53 pm

i reiterate, why does there seem to be no suspicion on O?

he role-blocked a claimed power role.

Maybe he wanted his power to work (as opposed to role-blocking a VT)? Maybe he was suspicious?

I don't know, but he doesn't seem to be raising anyone's eyebrows but yours.

How's the Shraeye wagon? I think I could be convinced on that.

cayvie · « **Reply #2804 on:** October 30, 2012, 09:54:18 pm »

Quote from: ashersky on October 30, 2012, 09:52:08 pm

Quote from: cayvie on October 30, 2012, 09:44:53 pm
i reiterate, why does there seem to be no suspicion on O?

he role-blocked a claimed power role.

Maybe he wanted his power to work (as opposed to role-blocking a VT)? Maybe he was suspicious?

I don't know, but he doesn't seem to be raising anyone's eyebrows but yours.

How's the Shraeye wagon? I think I could be convinced on that.

yes, and WHY ON EARTH NOT?

you DON'T ROLEBLOCK COPS

the first reason you supply is a TERRIBLE reason to use your role as town. also, O has given the explanation of "i didn't notice he was a power role"

cayvie · « **Reply #2805 on:** October 30, 2012, 09:57:03 pm »

which, like, do you really buy that?

do you really buy that O used a one-shot roleblock without checking to see if that player had claimed? you know, THAT DAY?

ashersky · « **Reply #2806 on:** October 30, 2012, 09:57:30 pm »

Quote from: cayvie on October 30, 2012, 09:54:18 pm

Quote from: ashersky on October 30, 2012, 09:52:08 pm
Quote from: cayvie on October 30, 2012, 09:44:53 pm
i reiterate, why does there seem to be no suspicion on O?

he role-blocked a claimed power role.

Maybe he wanted his power to work (as opposed to role-blocking a VT)? Maybe he was suspicious?

I don't know, but he doesn't seem to be raising anyone's eyebrows but yours.

How's the Shraeye wagon? I think I could be convinced on that.

yes, and WHY ON EARTH NOT?

you DON'T ROLEBLOCK COPS

the first reason you supply is a TERRIBLE reason to use your role as town. also, O has given the explanation of "i didn't notice he was a power role"

I didn't say it was a good reason. Just trying to come up with one.

O, where are you? Anything more helpful to say?

yuma · « **Reply #2807 on:** October 30, 2012, 09:59:18 pm »

Quote from: cayvie on October 30, 2012, 09:57:03 pm

which, like, do you really buy that?

do you really buy that O used a one-shot roleblock without checking to see if that player had claimed? you know, THAT DAY?

honestly I do... I am wary of it, but I am inclined to believe it... because O as mafia had no reason to tell us. Sure wine there... But if he was scum, why would he be so bold and crazy as to tell us that he used a one-shot roleblock w/o checking to see if that player had claimed? People would then jump on him for doing so raising his suspicion level...

O doing it as town makes more sense than O doing it as scum.

cayvie · « **Reply #2808 on:** October 30, 2012, 10:13:03 pm »

oh

oh!

what if he thinks I might be a watcher

if he's scum, he knows i'm town, and telling the truth with my role hints.

cayvie · « **Reply #2809 on:** October 30, 2012, 10:14:12 pm »

so, like, he roleblocks YN, and then is like, wait, what if cayvie's a watcher, and saw me do that? AAA EMERGENCY CLAIM IGNORANCE

yuma · « **Reply #2810 on:** October 30, 2012, 10:16:42 pm »

Quote from: cayvie on October 30, 2012, 10:14:12 pm

so, like, he roleblocks YN, and then is like, wait, what if cayvie's a watcher, and saw me do that? AAA EMERGENCY CLAIM IGNORANCE

you know what would help us solve this little mystery? lynching young nick....

cayvie · « **Reply #2811 on:** October 30, 2012, 10:17:53 pm »

Quote from: yuma on October 30, 2012, 10:16:42 pm

Quote from: cayvie on October 30, 2012, 10:14:12 pm
so, like, he roleblocks YN, and then is like, wait, what if cayvie's a watcher, and saw me do that? AAA EMERGENCY CLAIM IGNORANCE

you know what would help us solve this little mystery? lynching young nick....

yeah, that's true

Axxle · « **Reply #2812 on:** October 30, 2012, 10:28:43 pm »

Why just roleblock and not kill though?

shraeye · « **Reply #2813 on:** October 30, 2012, 10:51:44 pm »

Quote from: Insomniac on October 30, 2012, 07:50:55 pm

Also I agree with yuma that we should lynch off wagon today.

Me too, I'll focus on the cross section of off-grujah-wagon and people worth reading from my list of reads.

Insomniac · « **Reply #2814 on:** October 30, 2012, 10:53:20 pm »

Heres the thing though you are all saying O is scummy because he roleblocked Young Nick. but your also saying that Young Nick is scummy. So if O decided Young Nick is scummy why wouldn't he roleblock him...? (This is a serious question for the people that are saying both are scummy)

ehunt · « **Reply #2815 on:** October 30, 2012, 10:55:26 pm »

Quote from: cayvie on October 30, 2012, 09:57:03 pm

which, like, do you really buy that?

do you really buy that O used a one-shot roleblock without checking to see if that player had claimed? you know, THAT DAY?

it is a big pill to swallow, and you now have an answer to the question "but why did he tell us" that i don't hate.

unvote for now.

shraeye · « **Reply #2816 on:** October 30, 2012, 10:55:47 pm »

Quote from: cayvie on October 30, 2012, 10:14:12 pm

so, like, he roleblocks YN, and then is like, wait, what if cayvie's a watcher, and saw me do that? AAA EMERGENCY CLAIM IGNORANCE

This is a theory that has at least some merit, it seems.

Also, when did I become a power role?

Quote from: Axxle on October 30, 2012, 08:50:21 pm

I want to lynch one of cayvie, YN, and shraeye. Mostly because of who the mafia targeted. They should have gone for one of these power roles. Maybe they didn't target YN because his role is useless, but they probably should have targeted cayvie who has this role that they have no idea what it does and might be too dangerous to let live. I want to lynch shraeye because eHalcyon was very critical of him yesterday.

Vote: shraeye

cayvie · « **Reply #2817 on:** October 30, 2012, 10:56:17 pm »

Quote from: Insomniac on October 30, 2012, 10:53:20 pm

Heres the thing though you are all saying O is scummy because he roleblocked Young Nick. but your also saying that Young Nick is scummy. So if O decided Young Nick is scummy why wouldn't he roleblock him...? (This is a serious question for the people that are saying both are scummy)

because, even if you think someone is scummy, you still don't roleblock a claimed (and partially confirmed) investigative role.

MAYBE you vig them, if your read is strong enough.

but roleblocking them just leaves you with less evidence to lynch them with the following day.

O · « **Reply #2818 on:** October 30, 2012, 10:57:10 pm »

It's hard to imagine me having anything helpful to say when I wasn't even able to discern that YN was a claimed PR.

I didn't have many reads since I wasn't paying much attention, I latched onto some random thing YN said and basically just chose only slightly better than randomly.

Also when did Cayvie claim watcher?

cayvie · « **Reply #2819 on:** October 30, 2012, 10:59:07 pm »

i didn't.

but i have claimed a power role who targeted young nick last night.

ehunt · « **Reply #2820 on:** October 30, 2012, 10:59:21 pm »

Quote from: O on October 30, 2012, 10:57:10 pm

It's hard to imagine me having anything helpful to say when I wasn't even able to discern that YN was a claimed PR.

I didn't have many reads since I wasn't paying much attention, I latched onto some random thing YN said and basically just chose only slightly better than randomly.

Also when did Cayvie claim watcher?

what random thing YN said?

cayvie · « **Reply #2821 on:** October 30, 2012, 10:59:55 pm »

Quote from: O on October 30, 2012, 10:57:10 pm

It's hard to imagine me having anything helpful to say when I wasn't even able to discern that YN was a claimed PR.

I didn't have many reads since I wasn't paying much attention, I latched onto some random thing YN said and basically just chose only slightly better than randomly.

Also when did Cayvie claim watcher?

so why did you use a 1-shot ability at all?

O · « **Reply #2822 on:** October 30, 2012, 11:00:57 pm »

Why are you fishing?

ehunt · « **Reply #2823 on:** October 30, 2012, 11:02:27 pm »

Quote from: O on October 30, 2012, 11:00:57 pm

Why are you fishing?

MXI: where the claims

never

make

ANY

sense

ehunt · « **Reply #2824 on:** October 30, 2012, 11:05:25 pm »

it does not make sense to use a pseudo-investigative role to investigate ehalc. it just doesn't. nobody has defended this. even young nick hasn't really defended it.

it also doesn't make sense for YN to tell us he investigated ehalc.

it does not make sense to roleblock young nick. it makes sense not to care about a game (i guess), but it doesn't make sense to use a night action without doing minimal work. yes, O played the last two games he was town in sloppy, but not this sloppy.

it does not make sense for O to tell us that he roleblocked young nick if O is scum.

either many people are playing a bafflingly unstrategic game, or there is a deceptive conspiracy.

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