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[Dsell]

He said "I get 1 vp per day" which is true for ambassador as long as his score is zero or greater, I believe. He just left out the part of the role that gave out -vp when he had negative vp.

I can try to find the actual quote somewhere.

[Dsell]

I am a monument. I cannot be lynched. I can gain 1 vp every turn.

Somehow I can still be NKed I think. Curses can try to undermine me I guess.

What do you know. Not hard to find, it was the second post after day 1 started, and his first of the day.

[Insomniac]

Here is what I see

Timchen day 1 claims monument (a lie)
Timchen day 2 becomes masq
night 3 or 4 he becomes ambassador
Claims ambassador day 5, which has nothing to do with monument. after not mentioning anything else about his role until day 5 when he became ambassador. in other words when he talked about his role on day 1 he lied, on day 2 he didn't focus on his role, 3 and 4 he couldnt, when the pressure was on on day 5 he claimed ambassador, which he had gotten sometime during nights 3/4

[Insomniac]

I am a monument. I cannot be lynched. I can gain 1 vp every turn.

Somehow I can still be NKed I think. Curses can try to undermine me I guess.

What do you know. Not hard to find, it was the second post after day 1 started, and his first of the day.

How is this damning at all, he claimed a role that doesn't exist, it was in the black market last night and axxle can confirm that. he was a liar. he claimed monument he was not, he claimed lynchproof he was not.

[cayvie]

timchen said he never changed roles

unlike his other lies, this one would serve no protective purpose for a townie.

[jotheonah]

BUT HE EXPLAINED MONUMENT/AMBASSADOR ON DAY 1

No he didn't he claimed monument which was a lie. I don't see an explanation anywhere

Monument was a lie. But it was a lie that made perfect sense for an Ambassador to claim.

I think there were only 3 targets N1. Insomniac, shark_bait, and Insomniac's scumbuddy.  Which means the cursers decided to keep Masquerade in the family for N2. And then they thought by passing it to Grujah, they could dump it in the trash and remove it from the game - no one else would ever know how it worked.  But that didn't work. Somehow it got played out of the trash and lived to haunt on. (That's the weird part)

[Dsell]

While I hate the fact that he was lying, claiming that role sort of, aaaalmost makes "sense" for someone with ambassador to claim.

[Axxle]

FoS: Axxle and Robz for being online right now and not voting for this obvscum.

Sorry, doing the Cosmic.

Vote: Robz (trust me)
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[yuma]

While I hate the fact that he was lying, claiming that role sort of, aaaalmost makes "sense" for someone with ambassador to claim.

I hate the fact that he claimed, the lie is reasonable. If he claimed ambassador (clearly a role that would give out - VP) we might have jumped on him.

[yuma]

that is L-1 right?

[jotheonah]

FoS: Axxle and Robz for being online right now and not voting for this obvscum.

Sorry, doing the Cosmic.

Vote: Robz (trust me)
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Vote: Insomniac

That was, for the record, not so much a serious FoS.

[Insomniac]

I'm almost ready to vote for myself because you guys are so screwed if I die.

[Dsell]

While I hate the fact that he was lying, claiming that role sort of, aaaalmost makes "sense" for someone with ambassador to claim.

I hate the fact that he claimed, the lie is reasonable. If he claimed ambassador (clearly a role that would give out - VP) we might have jumped on him.

Lying as a townie is never (ok, raaaarely) reasonable. If it were, Insomniac might be getting away with this.

[yuma]

I'm almost ready to vote for myself because you guys are so screwed if I die.

trying to pull a TINAS?

[cayvie]

i don't think anyone's defending timchen's play here

[yuma]

While I hate the fact that he was lying, claiming that role sort of, aaaalmost makes "sense" for someone with ambassador to claim.

I hate the fact that he claimed, the lie is reasonable. If he claimed ambassador (clearly a role that would give out - VP) we might have jumped on him.

Lying as a townie is never (ok, raaaarely) reasonable. If it were, Insomniac might be getting away with this.

Yes... I guess what I am trying to say it that his lie was a necessity because he claimed. If he never claimed,  he never would have lied.

[Insomniac]

I'm almost ready to vote for myself because you guys are so screwed if I die.

trying to pull a TINAS?

Ive actually never read M1

[Insomniac]

i don't think anyone's defending timchen's play here

but you all are, you are all saying well timchen lied but he wouldn't have lied about this even though he was caught lying numerous times.

[jotheonah]

I'm almost ready to vote for myself because you guys are so screwed if I die.

By all means, scummy. If I'm wrong about this, I will quit mafia forever*


*I probably won't quit mafia forever.

[cayvie]

i don't think anyone's defending timchen's play here

but you all are, you are all saying well timchen lied but he wouldn't have lied about this even though he was caught lying numerous times.

hehe

i know you know the difference between the lies he made and the one you're accusing him of making

it's a good effort, insom, really it is.

[Dsell]

Hey some people haven't posted at all yet today. So I'm thinking about unvoting until at least Lekkit and Robz (and maybe others) get to say something substantive?

[jotheonah]

i don't think anyone's defending timchen's play here

but you all are, you are all saying well timchen lied but he wouldn't have lied about this even though he was caught lying numerous times.

but that. but ... No one is saying timchen is a pathological liar. Just because he's shown a willingness to lie doesn't mean he'd lie for absolutely no reason. That's just silly.

[Insomniac]

i don't think anyone's defending timchen's play here

but you all are, you are all saying well timchen lied but he wouldn't have lied about this even though he was caught lying numerous times.

hehe

i know you know the difference between the lies he made and the one you're accusing him of making

it's a good effort, insom, really it is.

I really don't know the difference.

I'm almost ready to vote for myself because you guys are so screwed if I die.

By all means, scummy. If I'm wrong about this, I will quit mafia forever*


*I probably won't quit mafia forever.

think about how i play jo, come on now you know me better than this

[jotheonah]

Hey some people haven't posted at all yet today. So I'm thinking about unvoting until at least Lekkit and Robz (and maybe others) get to say something substantive?

I guess, we could, but it's been day for a while and we're not gonna get a better lynch. Your call though.

[Dsell]

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