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[timchen]

btw, up to now every night I received -1 VP from somewhere. Is there anyone experiencing the same?

I thought you had said you were targeted for -2 one night, allowing you to hit negative and bounce the difference to someone else? Or have you done that every except last night?

No, I haven't been targeted by -2 at night as far as I can remember. I have never been in the positives so -1 is enough to give me the ability to give -VPs to other people. Note that I always give -2 no matter how many -VPs I choose to remove.

[timchen]

Hmm, does that imply the possession is in the black market and one of the two black markets we have (I seem to remember tables is one of them) possess tables?

[cayvie]

I miss being a Black Market

[timchen]

@cayvie: care to explain how your role changes (that is, again, if you have already explained?)

[Captain_Frisk]

Ok - everyone needs to go back and read the poetry.  Nobody knows what it means, but there are multiple factions in play here.  I have been converted into the ironworks faction, although like Axxle and RobZ, I do not share their wincon.  I am told that I may get out, and we're now able to talk about the fact that it exists.

The poems hint that other factions are in play.  Table's pink pony posts prove it.  I would have received -3VP if I didn't post in some special manner as well. 

Killing Galz helped.  We need to figure out who the root possessor is and take them out!

[Dsell]

BTW, i'm no longer a Young Witch. Someone is messing with me hardcore.

I miss being a Black Market

@cayvie: care to explain how your role changes (that is, again, if you have already explained?)

I actually really think we should not claim, I think it could be dangerous.

[Tables]

Right, glad that's out of the way. I did notice Black Market hit the trash pile. Mainly because... I'm now a Young Witch. I can prove it easily, of course, if anyone so demands.

Hmm... Ironworks aligned Trader? That... is interesting. Firstly, that he's not an Ironworks, and secondly, that Ironworks is an alignment. Galz admitted to being a cultist, right, so we can probably assume Ironworks are a cult? This makes me think my role was actually a negative one - if Ironworks hit me I'd... something that helps Ironworks? I dunno. Maybe I actually would have just become stronger, i.e. I was put in as an anti-cult measure of some form? Either way I was never targeted, I think, or maybe I was and whoever Masqueraded me got the Ironworks power.

Moving on, it sure took a while for Galz to die, and VPs are jumping around a lot less than they were. With Galz dead, I assume the people Galz... Tradered have been released?

[cayvie]

@cayvie: care to explain how your role changes (that is, again, if you have already explained?)

I don't know.

Someone is doing it to me.

[Captain_Frisk]

With Galz dead, I assume the people Galz... Tradered have been released?

Galz gained us... as an ironworks.  We have not been released.

[Eevee]

The guys Galzria targeted, are they cult-aligned or town-aligned at the moment? Meaning, do we need to kill all of them too to win?

[Captain_Frisk]

The guys Galzria targeted, are they cult-aligned or town-aligned at the moment? Meaning, do we need to kill all of them too to win?

I can't speak for others, but I retained my original alignment (town), but I have no current win condition.  We all would very much like to be returned to the deck.

[Captain_Frisk]

Oh - and some moron here is a king's court and king'd Galz on Night 3.

[Dsell]

Oh - and some moron here is a king's court and king'd Galz on Night 3.

He had already claimed at that point, that seems ludicrous for anyone from any other alignment to do. Was Galz able to somehow do that to himself?

[Tables]

Yes, sorry, should have post-edited that in.

But still, he's a trader? That doesn't seem to make sense. The only thing I can think of is there's someone else who's an Ironworks. Either that, or someone masqueraded Trader to Galz at the last minute, in which case, well, the conclusion still holds, someone else is still an Ironworks. But maybe they aren't Ironworks aligned...? Either way, I'm actually beginning to wonder whether your claim of having 'lost' your wincon is really true, or if you've communicated and decided to try and just survive as a group of... four(?) recruits (assuming one per night), until you get majority. Hmm... bussing Galz in that condition would have been extremely risky though... eh, I'll leave it as an unlikely possibility, but not impossible.

Post edit: Uh if CF is telling the truth, that'd make it six of them. That's... really bad. Especially if there's also an Ironworks out there. It would make it LYLO in fact! So we really need to work this out, methinks.

[Captain_Frisk]

@ Tables:

1.  Can you answer questions any questions directed at you?
2.  Is your post restriction indicative of some manner of cult or faction?
3.  Do you know who the leader of said faction is?
4.  Can you tell us?
5.  Do you have your original win conditions?

[Eevee]

No one thanking me for probably killing Galz.  Guys, why on earth did the mountebank target me? I mean what the heck? Unless it was possessed, but then the possessor has no motive to target me, so I'm stumped. Anyone have any ideas?

[Captain_Frisk]

Oh - and some moron here is a king's court and king'd Galz on Night 3.

He had already claimed at that point, that seems ludicrous for anyone from any other alignment to do. Was Galz able to somehow do that to himself?

Not to my knowledge, but Galz doesn't really tell his followers much.  He's a secretive type.

[Captain_Frisk]

No one thanking me for probably killing Galz.  Guys, why on earth did the mountebank target me? I mean what the heck? Unless it was possessed, but then the possessor has no motive to target me, so I'm stumped. Anyone have any ideas?

I thanked you in my opening post, but apparently tim has more to claim than you do.

[Eevee]

Oh - and some moron here is a king's court and king'd Galz on Night 3.

He had already claimed at that point, that seems ludicrous for anyone from any other alignment to do. Was Galz able to somehow do that to himself?

Not to my knowledge, but Galz doesn't really tell his followers much.  He's a secretive type.

Are we 100% Galz was the leader though? We are? Seems odd he was mentioned to you but the someone who is running the business now wasnt. Do you know how many others there are?

[Captain_Frisk]

Oh - and some moron here is a king's court and king'd Galz on Night 3.

He had already claimed at that point, that seems ludicrous for anyone from any other alignment to do. Was Galz able to somehow do that to himself?

Not to my knowledge, but Galz doesn't really tell his followers much.  He's a secretive type.

Are we 100% Galz was the leader though? We are? Seems odd he was mentioned to you but the someone who is running the business now wasnt. Do you know how many others there are?

I am 100% sure that Galz was the leader, and I am not aware of any leaders who have taken his place.  Galz dying was the first in an unknown series of steps that will hopefully result in us being returned to the deck.

I believe us to be harmless now, but the possessing (see Table's posts) is making me very nervous that something else is afoot.

[timchen]

@frisk: do you know whether Galz can still win?

[cayvie]

So, uh, if galz was KC'ed, doesn't that mean that nearly half the town is Ironworks?

[Eevee]

So, uh, if galz was KC'ed, doesn't that mean that nearly half the town is Ironworks?

They claim that means they are sort of nothing atm. They say they can still return to the decl somehow. Problem is, we dont know how, and we dont know if they really are playing for town atm.

Lol I just realized why the cult is called ironworks and why its spreading so fast.. its obviously a rush strategy. We need to figure a way to make the game last longer!

[cayvie]

Um, I don't believe anything anyone Ironworks-aligned is saying.

vote: Robz888

[cayvie]

I think Robz has got to be the Ironworks, since I know Axxle isn't.