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[Galzria]

So you admit that you are not deck-aligned?

I have adamantly said this is untrue. Please read all of my posts.

[Captain_Frisk]

When we lynch you, are they returned to the game?

They are not, which is why lynching me doesn't do what they think it will. The reason I don't want them lynched is that they no longer would have any powers. They are essentially innocent children. The problem is that, say, Axxle was curse before I gained him. He can still use his voice and vote to misdiret the deck. But I'm not SURE he was curse, thus I believe it would be in the decks interest to keep them alive and hunt for curse pets that are left. If you kill 3 of those, turn to Axxle as #4.

How did you know Axxle was curse and when did you gain him?

I don't know that he is. I suspect it's a possibility. And N2. I gained Robz N1.

RobZ - why are you waiting for Day 3 to finally discuss this?

[Galzria]

Galzria, is there a way you could prove this to us if we let you live another day?

Like, if we asked you to recruit Voltgloss or someone the town agrees they trust, would that person then gain enough information to corroborate your claim? Would they be allowed to communicate it to us?

Sorry Joth, trying to hit all the questions:

I would be happy to work something out. Obviously my power is at it's strongest when I can remove curse-faction from the deck, but I'm willing to sacrifice a night to obtain someone trusted. I don't know that I like Volt, as (if memory serves) he's a form of tracker which could be really useful to leave out - on the other hand, he doesn't appear to be a VP giver, so losing him may not be too bad? I don't know, I'm more than willing to work with everyone.

The good news: Scum do NOT want this position, so there is something to be learned from this exercise.

[Captain_Frisk]

You don't view it as incredibly risky to be taking out deck players from the game - especially given that you've already admitted that they don't come back if you die?

[Eevee]

I'm fine with being taken, its not like I do much anymore anyways. If town trusts me enough?

[Voltgloss]

cayvie and Tables' input on the "Axxle is a third Black Market" question is what I've been waiting on...

...but one of Galz's latest posts raised a BIG red flag.

The reason I don't want them lynched is that they no longer would have any powers.

Galz, you say now you don't want Robz and Axxle lynched?

5. I have no idea how to take the next two quotes.  Can you explain them?  The first is about the prospect of Robz being lynched...

If it doesn't you'll be dead?

Nah, he'll be fine.

...and the second, shortly thereafter:

Alternatively, you could lynch Axxle. That would be acceptable. But Robz first ideally.

You had no problem with lynching them a couple pages ago.

In my omnibus "bunch o' questions" post, I asked you to explain the above two quotes.  You provided a lot of information - but, far as I can tell, you did NOT explain the above two quotes.  I cannot square those quotes with what you are claiming now.

Somewhere, Galz, you are practicing a subtle misdirection.  I can't tell where, or exactly why.  But whatever it is, I'm now convinced - it can't be good for the deck.

Vote: Galwait a minute.

We are at L-2.  Both times we lynched Grujah, he got lynched at L-1. 

I don't want to end the day with important questions outstanding.  In particular:

- I want to see cayvie and Tables' response to Galz's claim that Axxle is Black Market #3.
- I want to see Robz's answer to Frisk's question:  why he (Robz) waited until Day 3 to out Galz as non-deck, if he (Robz) in fact knew this as early as Day 2.

I'm leaving my vote: timchen for now, but once the above questions are answered, I will be voting Galzria unless something drastic happens (again).

[Galzria]

You don't view it as incredibly risky to be taking out deck players from the game - especially given that you've already admitted that they don't come back if you die?

Yes, I do - which is why I prefaced that last statement with my desire to hit curse. But Joth wants me to somehow prove my power. Maybe we should take him for suggesting it? I don't know. I'm open to input. I really didn't want to reveal because of just how strange my power is.

[Captain_Frisk]

You don't view it as incredibly risky to be taking out deck players from the game - especially given that you've already admitted that they don't come back if you die?

Yes, I do - which is why I prefaced that last statement with my desire to hit curse. But Joth wants me to somehow prove my power. Maybe we should take him for suggesting it? I don't know. I'm open to input. I really didn't want to reveal because of just how strange my power is.

How many shots of roleblock immunity do you have?

[Captain_Frisk]

Galz in your mind - what what happens if we lynch RobZ?

[Galzria]

Volt, you took my first quote in your last post out of context. I do not want them lynched If I'm lynched first because they will have no way to regain their power.

[Galzria]

You don't view it as incredibly risky to be taking out deck players from the game - especially given that you've already admitted that they don't come back if you die?

Yes, I do - which is why I prefaced that last statement with my desire to hit curse. But Joth wants me to somehow prove my power. Maybe we should take him for suggesting it? I don't know. I'm open to input. I really didn't want to reveal because of just how strange my power is.

How many shots of roleblock immunity do you have?

I have no roleblock immunity.

[Galzria]

Galz in your mind - what what happens if we lynch RobZ?

I'm not sure. I think he'll be fine, as he's been removed from the deck.

[yuma]

I would also volunteer to be taken... My role isn't that essential.

[Captain_Frisk]

I would also volunteer to be taken... My role isn't that essential.

[jotheonah]

I'm fine with being taken, its not like I do much anymore anyways. If town trusts me enough?

I lolled.

How bout cayvie?

[Voltgloss]

cayvie, timchen, Eevee, Robz, Galzria... the day has been a series of bizarre claims, each increasingly more bizarre than the last.  I'm half-expecting Morgrim to suddenly reveal himself to be a ghost-player and claim to be the entire Cornucopia box set (INCLUDING the Prizes).

But in all seriousness:

Volt, you took my first quote in your last post out of context. I do not want them lynched If I'm lynched first because they will have no way to regain their power.

Thanks for clarifying.  So - you DO want them lynched as long as you AREN'T lynched first?  Despite not being sure as to what will happen if they are lynched?

Why?  Specifically, why Robz, whom you have gone on record as saying is Deck-aligned (at least he WAS until you got involved)?  Why were you supporting the lynch of someone you claim to KNOW is Deck (or rather, would be Deck as soon as you let him go back to being Deck)?

Basically Galz, what I need from you is an explanation of this post:

Alternatively, you could lynch Axxle. That would be acceptable. But Robz first ideally.

that makes sense with everything else you've claimed SINCE making that post.

[eHalcyon]

cayvie, timchen, Eevee, Robz, Galzria... the day has been a series of bizarre claims, each increasingly more bizarre than the last.  I'm half-expecting Morgrim to suddenly reveal himself to be a ghost-player and claim to be the entire Cornucopia box set (INCLUDING the Prizes).

<joke>Morgrim is Hidden Village with ghost vote, causing all the L-1 lynches.</joke>

[jotheonah]

cayvie, timchen, Eevee, Robz, Galzria... the day has been a series of bizarre claims, each increasingly more bizarre than the last.  I'm half-expecting Morgrim to suddenly reveal himself to be a ghost-player and claim to be the entire Cornucopia box set (INCLUDING the Prizes).

I just day-investigated Morgrim and you're 100% right. I'm very suspicious of how you knew that.


not a serious post

also ninja'd

[Galzria]

cayvie, timchen, Eevee, Robz, Galzria... the day has been a series of bizarre claims, each increasingly more bizarre than the last.  I'm half-expecting Morgrim to suddenly reveal himself to be a ghost-player and claim to be the entire Cornucopia box set (INCLUDING the Prizes).

But in all seriousness:

Volt, you took my first quote in your last post out of context. I do not want them lynched If I'm lynched first because they will have no way to regain their power.

Thanks for clarifying.  So - you DO want them lynched as long as you AREN'T lynched first?  Despite not being sure as to what will happen if they are lynched?

Why?  Specifically, why Robz, whom you have gone on record as saying is Deck-aligned (at least he WAS until you got involved)?  Why were you supporting the lynch of someone you claim to KNOW is Deck (or rather, would be Deck as soon as you let him go back to being Deck)?

Basically Galz, what I need from you is an explanation of this post:

Alternatively, you could lynch Axxle. That would be acceptable. But Robz first ideally.

that makes sense with everything else you've claimed SINCE making that post.

Volt, there are things even I don't know fully. I believe that lynching Robz will cause him no harm. It MIGHT even be a way for him to force his way back into the deck. I'm not sure.If it were to succeed, I would rather Robz go that route than Axxle, who I don't want to release right now.

I can't imagine they are COMPLETELY powerless after I obtain them. It wouldn't be fair to them. But they receive their own PM, with all of their own special information. I'm still trying to figure many things out myself, and lynching Robz could've helped with that. However if the outcome is as I suspect, you COULD lynch Axxle or Robz, but Robz is ideal.

[yuma]

Would an idea be to have Galz take somebody and then have that person reveal the full PM they receive from eHal and get modkilled? Would that hurt town to much? Would anyone be willing to do that?

Would they be willing to do that over getting lynched? Say timchen?

It seems like a lot of the information we need as town is in that PM that they can't reveal w/o dying.

[Dsell]

This is a hostage situation.

[Captain_Frisk]

I don't negotiate with terrorists.

[jotheonah]

That "solution" sounds a lot like cheating.

If eHal put a pain-of-modkill restriction on information, he doesn't want the whole town to have it. Presumably because the town having it would break the game.  Breaking the game is never desirable. It might let you win, but it's not a victory you should feel good about, and it won't maximize fun.

[yuma]

Good point, idea with drawn I suppose then.

[cayvie]

1) Yes, I can confirm that Axxle was the third Black Market.

2) I'm cool being taken too. Young Witch is barely a protown role as is--it mostly just daypunches a random person.