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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #950 on: July 29, 2012, 11:56:18 pm »

Vote Count 3-6

Eevee (1): Dsell
Galzria (4): Robz888, cayvie, Eevee, Galzria
Lekkit (1): jotheonah
Robz (2): shark_bait, Captain_Frisk
timchen (1): Voltgloss
yuma (1): Axxle

Not voting (5): Insomniac, Lekkit, Tables, timchen, yuma

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Lynch deadline: Thursday, August 9, 5:30pm MDT
(But this is liable to change.  I won't end it early without some warning.)





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3 - Axxle
1 - Captain_Frisk
1 - cayvie
1 - Dsell
0 - Eevee
-3 - Galzria
-1.5 - Insomniac
-1 - jotheonah
-1 - Lekkit
-2 - Robz888
-1 - shark_bait
2 - Tables
-2 - timchen
-5.5 - Voltgloss
-0.5 - yuma

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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #951 on: July 30, 2012, 12:11:32 am »

cayvie has gone from the player I was most suspicious of at day's start, to the only player who's roleclaim story seems to check out.

vote: eHalcyon for apparently making Galzria walk a pink elephant while Robz and Axxle were trying to feed his blue dog.

But I guess that doesn't work unfortunately, so, um, I'll leave my vote: timchen until Axxle hopefully helps clear things up.
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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #952 on: July 30, 2012, 12:25:04 am »

Cayvie: How do you think I knew that you took Nobles from the BM? Think about it, and think about what I HAVE said about my role and what I could know, and why.

Eevee, I'm sorry - Unvote. You're right, of course. It's just so frustrating knowing the WHY for why things add up wrong, but not being able to say.

It's like someone bringing you the problem: 3+13=16, and being forced to say "No the answer is 1" because YOU know the problem is really: 3+1-3=1. Without that critical piece of information, the whole result will be skewed.

It's not a great analogy, I admit, but it's the best I can think of. Axxle could honestly see things both my way, or Robz. I'm HOPING he puts the pieces together to see why Robz is wrong here, but I fully admit he may draw the same conclusion. :(
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Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #953 on: July 30, 2012, 12:39:19 am »

Unvote

It's possible Galzria is just playing me, but damnit he is compelling. And we obviously cant make a decision before Axxle is back.
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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #954 on: July 30, 2012, 01:08:30 am »

* Grujah is glad he was lynched! :D

Fun fact: at one point I considered including the role "Speculated Dark Ages Card" that would "retrieve a card from the trash", i.e. you could (one shot) revive a dead player.  I decided that it was a little too crazy.
You shouldnt be telling what is or isnt in the game anywhere but in the thread when the game is still going. Not everyone reads this :)

Just so you guys know -- there is no power in this game to revive the dead. :P
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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #955 on: July 30, 2012, 01:21:12 am »

I clearly have no idea what is going on at all.

But timchen lied and is now lurking.

I'm going back there. unvote, vote timchen
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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #956 on: July 30, 2012, 01:33:32 am »

I am SO confused. SO SO confused.
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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #957 on: July 30, 2012, 02:08:34 am »

Didn't I say I am V/LA?
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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #958 on: July 30, 2012, 02:45:52 am »

Wierdest game ever. I'm awaiting axxles info on the robz galz debacle
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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #959 on: July 30, 2012, 02:52:06 am »

I am gonna have to reread and try to get my thoughts together tomorrow. I tend to think we should follow Robz' plan, maybe? Galzria said that Robz was missing info but he couldn't fill it in...I just have to go back and check.
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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #960 on: July 30, 2012, 08:27:44 am »

Guys if you're really confused by the RObz/Galzria situation ... just ignore it. And vote for the scummiest person. Like we're, idk, playing mafia or something. timchen, Lekkit, and Eevee seem like good options, depending on the assumptions you're making.
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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #961 on: July 30, 2012, 08:39:57 am »

Oh, so it's fine for you to be really quiet and accuse the same people I accuse of being scummy almost out of nowhere?
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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #962 on: July 30, 2012, 08:44:09 am »

Ok - i did alot of phone lurking this weekend.  Lets see if I can sum up the situation for today:

1. timchen is a confirmed liar.  I outed him for targeted cayvie last night, and now claims to be a deck aligned ambassador instead of a deck aligned lynchproof  monument.

2. yuma is allegedly an / the embargo - having embargod Voltgloss.  5 people targeted Voltgloss Axxle, Captain_Frisk, Dsell, Insomniac, and Lekkit. 

3. cayvie and tables claim to be black market - basically choosing a role ability each night from a (random?) selection of 3 - although cayvie now claims to have been turned into a young witch - which seems to have been confirmed based on score movement on timchen.

Neither of them are (allegedly) aware of eachother's alignments

4. RobZ asked us to lynch him.  When he got high - he asked us to lynch Galzria.  I confirmed that Galz targeted RobZ on night 1.  RobZ claims that he now knows that Galz is not deck aligned.  Galz says that he understands why RobZ thinks that - but says that he's mistaken.  Galz says that he is an "ironworks"

5. eeVee claims to be a secret chamber - a weird busdriver / hider hybrid.

6. Our mod encourages us to go back and read things, hinting that we've missed something important.

Does this seem about right?

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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #963 on: July 30, 2012, 08:48:41 am »

7. There's a lot of confusion and we don't really know what's really happening. Everyone seems to sit on some kind of information but nobody wants to or is able to share.
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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #964 on: July 30, 2012, 08:57:16 am »

So lets discuss this.  RobZ and Galz have hinted at modkillability for sharing too much.

Claim: I have no such restrictions.  Does anyone else?
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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #965 on: July 30, 2012, 09:05:20 am »

No posting restrictions for me.

Is the Galz/Robz situation one that we have to figure out today, or can we figure out what is going on with it another day?

vote: timchen
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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #966 on: July 30, 2012, 09:19:27 am »

Even though I outed timchen, I'm slightly concerned that tim may just play by his own rules and doesn't respect the lynch all liars policy.
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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #967 on: July 30, 2012, 09:29:44 am »

@C_F: I don't have any restrictions like that either.
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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #968 on: July 30, 2012, 09:39:00 am »

So lets discuss this.  RobZ and Galz have hinted at modkillability for sharing too much.

Claim: I have no such restrictions.  Does anyone else?

I have this same restriction.

Galz is not deck aligned.  Robz is telling the truth.  Although I don't know why he just didn't try to get Galz killed to start instead of offering up himself.

In addition, Galz will essentially be roleblocking me and Robz every night after today

I'm not entirely convinced that Galz should be lynched, because if that's the case then I think his role is incredibly bastardly.

Vote: Galz
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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #969 on: July 30, 2012, 09:40:40 am »

So lets discuss this.  RobZ and Galz have hinted at modkillability for sharing too much.

Claim: I have no such restrictions.  Does anyone else?

I have this same restriction.

Galz is not deck aligned.  Robz is telling the truth.  Although I don't know why he just didn't try to get Galz killed to start instead of offering up himself.

In addition, Galz will essentially be roleblocking me and Robz every night after today

I'm not entirely convinced that Galz should be lynched, because if that's the case then I think his role is incredibly bastardly.

Vote: Galz

you aren't convinced but you vote for him?
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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #970 on: July 30, 2012, 09:50:53 am »

Ok, fine.

G, R, and A can't ALL be mafia. That would be dumb.

Therefore, at least one, probably two are town.

Axxle and Robz agree that (1) Galzria is not deck and (2) we should lynch Galzria.

If Galzria IS deck, then Axxle and Robz should be lynched, although Galz says they shouldn't.

If Galzria is anti-deck nondeck, great.

If Galzria is some sort of role (not sure what this would be) who isn't in the deck but has a wincon that doesn't conflict with the deck, and we don't net an obvious and tangible benefit from killing him then Axxle and Robz should be regarded with suspicion.

It kind of sounds like there's no legit SCUM involved here at all. Which means we are killing potentially pro-town power and ignoring scums for another day. Robz and Axxle, is the benefit of lynching Galzria worth that trade off at this point?
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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #971 on: July 30, 2012, 09:59:14 am »

If killing him does what we hope it will do then yes.
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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #972 on: July 30, 2012, 10:03:12 am »

you aren't convinced but you vote for him?

There was an adverb there that clarifies your question.

I'm not entirely convinced that Galz should be lynched, because if that's the case then I think his role is incredibly bastardly.
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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #973 on: July 30, 2012, 10:10:52 am »

I'm starting to wonder if Galz could be some kind of cultist.
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Re: Role Madness Mafia I (Day 3 Started, PM for Spectator's QT)
« Reply #974 on: July 30, 2012, 10:29:37 am »

Well if two people claim Galz is anti deck then I'd be stupid to ignore that. Vote:Galz. Not saying I won't move my vote but if galz is scum success if he isn't well we've learned alot about Robz/Axxle
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