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[Eevee]

Why did we stop voting timchen again?

First came the Eevee wagon, then Robz dropped da bomb.

[Lekkit]

@Eevee: Yeah. A lot of stuff happening.

@cayvie: Because of the whole Robz thing. Right now, there are so many people acting werid, so I'm really confused. :S

[jotheonah]

Why did we stop voting timchen again?

The timchen lynch is too easy. It smells fishy. I like Lekkit better. He's playing like I actually expect mafia to play (mostly like town) rather than like really unabashedly obvious mafia.

Still I'll join the timchen wagon if worse comes to worse.

I voted Robz because I couldn't think of a scenario where the mafia would make that request. BUT requesting we kill someone else is totally different. No good reason to honor that request.

Robz, you'll forgive us if we're skeptical of "it'll help town I promise"? Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

[Galzria]

I still think Robz is being genuine. However, I dont like how uncertain he sounded in the last post and definitely dont think I should vote for Galz until he gets a chance to respond.

Interestin developments!

I cannot fully respond without roleclaiming, which I cannot do.

I will say that I have targeted Robz, and Axxle. Part of my ability is investigative. I don't learn fully what their card does, but I do learn what it is.

I do not in any way cause my target to lose VP. As to why Robz wants to be lynched - well, I can guess, but I cannot say.

[yuma]

vote: Robz

Because he said to and then said not to....

[Eevee]

I still think Robz is being genuine. However, I dont like how uncertain he sounded in the last post and definitely dont think I should vote for Galz until he gets a chance to respond.

Interestin developments!

I cannot fully respond without roleclaiming, which I cannot do.

I will say that I have targeted Robz, and Axxle. Part of my ability is investigative. I don't learn fully what their card does, but I do learn what it is.

I do not in any way cause my target to lose VP. As to why Robz wants to be lynched - well, I can guess, but I cannot say.

Do you think its a good idea to vote for you?

[Voltgloss]

cayvie, the reason we stopped voting for timchen was because certain people have been doing everything in their power to distract us away from voting timchen.  At least, that's how I'm reading the ever-evolving, and ever-more-maddening, situation.

Galzria, did I misread the last set of posts, or did you just claim Robz is a deck-aligned Festival?  Why for any earthly reason should we lynch someone who is deck-aligned?

[Galzria]

I still think Robz is being genuine. However, I dont like how uncertain he sounded in the last post and definitely dont think I should vote for Galz until he gets a chance to respond.

Interestin developments!

I cannot fully respond without roleclaiming, which I cannot do.

I will say that I have targeted Robz, and Axxle. Part of my ability is investigative. I don't learn fully what their card does, but I do learn what it is.

I do not in any way cause my target to lose VP. As to why Robz wants to be lynched - well, I can guess, but I cannot say.

Do you think its a good idea to vote for you?

No, I don't. I think he's making assumptions based on an outcome that are wrong.

[cayvie]

cayvie, the reason we stopped voting for timchen was because certain people have been doing everything in their power to distract us away from voting timchen.  At least, that's how I'm reading the ever-evolving, and ever-more-maddening, situation.

That's kind of where I'm at.

unvote, vote timchen

[Galzria]

Volt, you read that correct.

Like I said though, I think Robz has a reason for wanting to be lynched, so I'm willing to support him. I get the card names of who I target, but not exactly what they do as a part of my role.

To say anything more would be revealing of my role, which I would rather not do.

[jotheonah]

Eevee did you ever say why you redirected someone's Mountebank power at Volt specifically?

[Eevee]

Eevee did you ever say why you redirected someone's Mountebank power at Volt specifically?

I had very little to no reads on anyone. Volt had rubbed me the wrong way. First I tried targeting the same guy that attacked me, was told thats not possible ("you need to provide a name"), so just picked Volt. I'm ashamed to admit I didnt even think about the VP people had or didnt have, just sort of thought "whatever, I have so little reads I just pick someone that could be scum".

[eHalcyon]

Vote Count 3-5

Eevee (1): Dsell
Galzria (1): Robz888
Lekkit (1): jotheonah
Robz (4): Galzria, shark_bait, Captain_Frisk, yuma
timchen (2): Voltgloss, cayvie
yuma (1): Axxle

Not voting (5): Eevee, Insomniac, Lekkit, Tables, timchen

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Lynch deadline: Thursday, August 9, 5:30pm MDT
(But this is liable to change.  I won't end it early without some warning.)




Point Counter Extension 3.5

3 - Axxle
1 - Captain_Frisk
1 - cayvie
1 - Dsell
0 - Eevee
-3 - Galzria
-1.5 - Insomniac
-1 - jotheonah
-1 - Lekkit
-2 - Robz888
-1 - shark_bait
2 - Tables
-2 - timchen
-5.5 - Voltgloss
-0.5 - yuma



I received a question regarding a portion of the confusion that has been cropping up on day 3.  The answer I gave is that that there is more going on than you realize, and that you should re-read the thread with fresh eyes and an open mind.  There are some important posts that people have not realized are important.

[Captain_Frisk]

I cannot fully respond without roleclaiming, which I cannot do.

To say anything more would be revealing of my role, which I would rather not do.

Which is it?

[eHalcyon]

A ruling on an old issue -- Axxle says he should still have intermittent access to internet during his V/LA, so I will no longer be seeking a replacement.  If required, day 3 can be extended.  If we enter night before then, Night 3 will be extended to give Axxle at least 24 hours beyond his date of return.  If the day ends soon, longer before Axxle's expected return, I'll probably leave Twilight chat open for significantly longer than normal, and then you can use the extra night time to peruse the thread for clues as to why people are doing what they are doing!  (Or if Axxle manages to sneak in during the night, we can proceed as normal into day 4.)

[Galzria]

I cannot fully respond without roleclaiming, which I cannot do.

To say anything more would be revealing of my role, which I would rather not do.

Which is it?

I've said what I can. Are you really so determined to rolefish?

[Tables]

Okay, whut? So... Robz wants one of himself of Galz killed (now saying Galz), and Axxle and Galz have some idea why?

...

How very interesting. If Robz got his way with Galz killed, this could be the bizarrest way of getting someone else lynched I've ever seen.

Robz, I take it a thing will happen when you satisfy some criteria, and you think that criteria might be getting yourself lynched? Or maybe Galz lynched? You know, we aren't going to lynch Galz unless there's very good reason for it - I don't think he's been suspicious all game so far and he doesn't exactly sound in favour of it, so really, it's you, or we lynch someone scummy like normal...

[Captain_Frisk]

I cannot fully respond without roleclaiming, which I cannot do.

To say anything more would be revealing of my role, which I would rather not do.

Which is it?

I've said what I can. Are you really so determined to rolefish?

Well - in one you say you can not - implying that you have post restriction that would explicitly prohibit you from doing so.

The other you say you'd prefer not to, implying that you just want to keep things secret. 

Either are acceptable - but they are different statements.

[Galzria]

I cannot fully respond without roleclaiming, which I cannot do.

To say anything more would be revealing of my role, which I would rather not do.

Which is it?

I've said what I can. Are you really so determined to rolefish?

Well - in one you say you can not - implying that you have post restriction that would explicitly prohibit you from doing so.

The other you say you'd prefer not to, implying that you just want to keep things secret. 

Either are acceptable - but they are different statements.

I have no restriction except protecting the members of the deck that I know. Festival was deck, but Robz wanted to be lynched - I'm not entirely sure as to why, but as a deck role I must believe he had his reasons. He seems to think something else now, which while I understand WHY he thinks it, I know for a fact to be misguided based on a result that he's trying to figure out.

[Voltgloss]

cayvie should be the second vote on timchen, right Ehalc?

[eHalcyon]

cayvie should be the second vote on timchen, right Ehalc?

My bad.  Fixed.

[Eevee]

Robz and Galzria, is there any chance of you two coming into an understanding? You dont have to explain us whats going on really (I dont think). Or should we start looking for other targets?

[Galzria]

Robz and Galzria, is there any chance of you two coming into an understanding? You dont have to explain us whats going on really (I dont think). Or should we start looking for other targets?

Robz is in a tough situation, and I feel for him. I am happy to search for other targets (I'm not sold on Timchen, but Lekkit is viable in my eyes). I'm not sure Robz will be willing to move on however.

[Robz888]

Okay, whut? So... Robz wants one of himself of Galz killed (now saying Galz), and Axxle and Galz have some idea why?

...

How very interesting. If Robz got his way with Galz killed, this could be the bizarrest way of getting someone else lynched I've ever seen.

Robz, I take it a thing will happen when you satisfy some criteria, and you think that criteria might be getting yourself lynched? Or maybe Galz lynched? You know, we aren't going to lynch Galz unless there's very good reason for it - I don't think he's been suspicious all game so far and he doesn't exactly sound in favour of it, so really, it's you, or we lynch someone scummy like normal...

Okay, I realize that this takes a lot of trust in me that I haven't necessarily earned. I need something to happen. This "thing" will not be bad for the town; it's good for the town. Unfortunately, I don't know specifically what the thing is. Axxle is in the same situation as me, and the culprit is Galzria. I can confirm that Galzria is not a member of the town. If I'm wrong, you can lynch me. Treat this as a claim, or whatever. I know for a fact, because of night actions, that he is not town.

I now believe that killing him is the "thing" that needs to happen. My first thought was the thing that needs to happen was me dying, but after giving it more thought, I think killing Galzria is more likely to be that thing.

If it works, I can explain exactly what this had to happen; I can tell you everything. Unfortunately, I am specifically disallowed from giving more details.

[cayvie]

And you're cool, of course, with being lynched if you're wrong, Robz?