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[EFHW]

math, were you seriously pushing MiX, or was that more RVS?

If LL hadn't joined the vote already, I would have already moved on. But since there were 2 votes, I thought I'd see if anyone else was interested in joining too.

So maybe RVS? But

I don’t know if I believe in RVS anymore.

Ditto?

MiX wanted my response to this. I don't play this way, but I know some people do. Meaning being influenced by existing wagons in placing a vote. Maybe that's why joth just voted me. But given that math exhorted others to vote MiX, I'd say this is not a satisfactory answer. I don't see how it can be RVS since he had reasons. Not random.

[EFHW]

Come on people. MiX is a good wagon.

Here is the exhorting I mentioned in my last post.

[iguanaiguana]

I feel better and better about my EFHW vote. 

I think you have this on speed dial. I used to scum read it. Now I think it's NAI.

. By this do you mean that WCD frequently scum reads you early on?

[EFHW]

I feel better and better about my EFHW vote. 

I think you have this on speed dial. I used to scum read it. Now I think it's NAI.

. By this do you mean that WCD frequently scum reads you early on?

Yes, with that exact sentence.

[iguanaiguana]

@EFHW, obviously you're not voting. Any scum reads though?

[jotheonah]

so anyway faust is town & Didds is town & MiX is but he's being pleasant and helpful.

idk, nobody's pinging me overmuch, which makes sense because none of you are terrible at this game.

Vote: EFHW

Wait a minute - are you salty too?

Because there can't be anything in the current game that is scummy.

This was true before, but not now: what do you think about math's answer to your question?

Also I think it's obvious joth voted you because you were a wagon.

lol. I voted EFHW because of a combo of trusting my town reads and PoE.

[MiX]

Also I think it's obvious joth voted you because you were a wagon.

lol. I voted EFHW because of a combo of trusting my town reads and PoE.

I can't tell if this is a joke or not.

[MiX]

Also I think it's obvious joth voted you because you were a wagon.

lol. I voted EFHW because of a combo of trusting my town reads and PoE.

I can't tell if this is a joke or not.

EBWOP.

[Jimmmmm]

I feel like this game has a whole lot of "[player] is [alignment]" with very few reasons provided, and I'm not sure what to do with that.

[jotheonah]

I feel like this game has a whole lot of "[player] is [alignment]" with very few reasons provided, and I'm not sure what to do with that.

Believe them. Or disbelieve them. Depending on your reads.

[WestCoastDidds]

Responding to EFHW….

It is true that I scum read EFHW often. She is hard for me to read, no question. I find her cagey and super sharp, but for me the difference between scum!EFHW and town!EFHW is the quality of her questions. When she’s town, the questions are smart and incisive. When she is scum the questions don’t do much or reveal anything.

Thus far in this game, I find her questions more like the latter than the former. It’s early in the day so this could change, obvi, but since yesterday her questions have not been probing, and today she has been defensive about a tiny wagon.

The post was the scummiest to me:

Enough digression/regression regarding the last game. How shall we get out of RVS?

math, were you seriously pushing MiX, or was that more RVS?

The assumption that all the votes thus far were RVS has been discussed by faust and others who don’t think about their votes as random. So, the first assumption is flawed. And then her question isn’t incisive or probing.

It’s just seems like EFHW-lite, to me.

[Jimmmmm]

Didds, have a cookie.

Vote: EFHW

[jotheonah]

Ok I know I just said Didds was town, but quick gut check: does town Didds push this hard this early? I feel like Didds isn’t usually quite this confident or assertive in her Day 1 reads.

[EFHW]

@EFHW, obviously you're not voting. Any scum reads though?

I'm feeling influenced by past games at the moment, so I'm trying to get oriented. It's only been one day, you know! I don't want to throw out names based on nothing. Give me some time.

[mathdude]

I feel like this game has a whole lot of "[player] is [alignment]" with very few reasons provided, and I'm not sure what to do with that.

Ok, Jimmmmm is scum because he's not engaging much. And then he does exactly what he's calling out for people not to do.

Didds, have a cookie.

Vote: EFHW

No explanation? I'm not sure what to do with that. Oh, how about
Vote: Jimmmmm?

[WestCoastDidds]

Ok I know I just said Didds was town, but quick gut check: does town Didds push this hard this early? I feel like Didds isn’t usually quite this confident or assertive in her Day 1 reads.

I’m trying to be more confident and assertive! So, it’s true that it isn’t characteristic but that is deliberate. I’m frustrated with being so sucky at a game I enjoy. :/

[EFHW]

Responding to EFHW….

It is true that I scum read EFHW often. She is hard for me to read, no question. I find her cagey and super sharp, but for me the difference between scum!EFHW and town!EFHW is the quality of her questions. When she’s town, the questions are smart and incisive. When she is scum the questions don’t do much or reveal anything.

Thus far in this game, I find her questions more like the latter than the former. It’s early in the day so this could change, obvi, but since yesterday her questions have not been probing, and today she has been defensive about a tiny wagon.

The post was the scummiest to me:

Enough digression/regression regarding the last game. How shall we get out of RVS?

math, were you seriously pushing MiX, or was that more RVS?

The assumption that all the votes thus far were RVS has been discussed by faust and others who don’t think about their votes as random. So, the first assumption is flawed. And then her question isn’t incisive or probing.

It’s just seems like EFHW-lite, to me.

Apologies to those who don't feel they were doing RVS. I was stuck in it, so getting out of it myself was the main point of what I was saying. I actually think my question to mathdude was sufficiently incisive. Why is he calling for people to join him on the wagon at the same time he is calling it RVS, maybe, he isn't sure?

I am lacking insight into which posts sound defensive. Can you point to them?

[Jimmmmm]

I feel like this game has a whole lot of "[player] is [alignment]" with very few reasons provided, and I'm not sure what to do with that.

Ok, Jimmmmm is scum because he's not engaging much. And then he does exactly what he's calling out for people not to do.

Didds, have a cookie.

Vote: EFHW

No explanation? I'm not sure what to do with that. Oh, how about
Vote: Jimmmmm?

If you read the preceding post you'll find that Didds offered an explanation for her read on EFHW.

[WestCoastDidds]

EFHW, This is the one that felt defensive to me

math, were you seriously pushing MiX, or was that more RVS?

If LL hadn't joined the vote already, I would have already moved on. But since there were 2 votes, I thought I'd see if anyone else was interested in joining too.

So maybe RVS? But

I don’t know if I believe in RVS anymore.

Ditto?

MiX wanted my response to this. I don't play this way, but I know some people do. Meaning being influenced by existing wagons in placing a vote. Maybe that's why joth just voted me. But given that math exhorted others to vote MiX, I'd say this is not a satisfactory answer. I don't see how it can be RVS since he had reasons. Not random.

PPE: 1

[EFHW]

I don't see it.

[MiX]

EFHW, This is the one that felt defensive to me

math, were you seriously pushing MiX, or was that more RVS?

If LL hadn't joined the vote already, I would have already moved on. But since there were 2 votes, I thought I'd see if anyone else was interested in joining too.

So maybe RVS? But

I don’t know if I believe in RVS anymore.

Ditto?

MiX wanted my response to this. I don't play this way, but I know some people do. Meaning being influenced by existing wagons in placing a vote. Maybe that's why joth just voted me. But given that math exhorted others to vote MiX, I'd say this is not a satisfactory answer. I don't see how it can be RVS since he had reasons. Not random.

PPE: 1

Hmm I can see that.

I don't see it.

From an outside perspective, the bolded statements can look defensive.

I don't think that's quite what Didds was thinking about though, at least I would be very surprised to have the same thought process as her.

Didds, what did you see in that post that made EFHW sound defensive, and why?

[WestCoastDidds]

It’s perception, so I think it’s fair for other people not to see it.

I see it as defensive because it begins with a deflection on the topic (MiX wanted an answer), then a shrug (I don’t play this way but some people do), then a deflection (maybe that’s what Joth vote was).

[mathdude]

I feel like this game has a whole lot of "[player] is [alignment]" with very few reasons provided, and I'm not sure what to do with that.

Ok, Jimmmmm is scum because he's not engaging much. And then he does exactly what he's calling out for people not to do.

Didds, have a cookie.

Vote: EFHW

No explanation? I'm not sure what to do with that. Oh, how about
Vote: Jimmmmm?

If you read the preceding post you'll find that Didds offered an explanation for her read on EFHW.

So, sheeping? Do you trust Didds enough to do that here? Do you feel nervous yet with 3 votes sitting on you?

[Jimmmmm]

I don't need any amount of trust to move my vote at this point.

No I don't feel nervous having votes without reasons. Presumably either reasons will come or they'll be moved before Day's end.

[LaLight]

I’m frustrated with being so sucky at a game I enjoy. :/

oh, unironically welcome to the club