Ok so a little under 11 hours and we are still pretty spread out.
1) MiX Wagon:
- If MiX was skum, pushing the promoter claim, I strongly believe they would of claimed town promoter here (if they were going to claim anything).
- It would not be ideal for skum, but I think that given the way the day has played out with them, if they are skum and there is a promoter, then there is a skum promoter. When they claim VT they look suspicious.
- If they were to claim Town Promoter, the only PR that could claim out of the same cell would be a Semi-Elite BG, which means nothing.
- They would however, then have to wake up the next day... which would be awkward if they are skum and claimed promoter.
Summary on MiX - At this point I think they are either VT or Traitor.
2) ADK Wagon:
- I have been promoting this based on the previously talked about Promoter claiming ideas for over half the day. I still think it is a good option.
- I am slightly doubting it based on reads and the way votes have moved around.
- I am very suspicious of Joseph's sheep vote on Faust that put ADK at 4 votes vs MiX's 4 votes.
- ADK's "general activity" matches the limited game time I have played with their town meta. Still the promoter thing was off at the beginning.
Summary - I think ADK could be skum. I do not think ADK and MiX are both skum. I think it is more likely that ADK is skum over MiX. However, I know have looked at Joseph....
3) Joseph:
- Supports the promoter claim at the beginning.
- Did not read the set up correctly. I do not personally put a lot of faith in that one, but it is something.
- Then, in post #235 he flips his read and says "wait we are trying to force the promoter out? I do not think that will work out the way we want it to". This could be due to the confusion of the set up, but that is not super relevant in regards to being pro or con the claim. So that is weird.
- Gives weird passes and reads. Like faust and Ari both get passes from Joseph. I actually kind of get the Ari one, at least from the reasons they gave... but the faust pass is strange. Could be conf!bias or partnery.
- Then there is #283 about there "being a traitor". By itself, not important. But combined with opening being pro-claim, then waffling on that, and the weak reasons for reads... I find it suspicious, specifically because the only argument for the 180 on the pro/con promoter claim could be "I didn't get the set up so I went back and read it", and now again, after this Traitor comment, they are still confused.
- #420 again referencing the upper right quadrant in the logic that there is a skum promoter.
- #439 says they are sheeping faust on ADK vote that puts ADK at 4-4 vs MiX.
- The off wagon players at this point are Space, EFHW, Chairs, MCMC, Ari, and Galz. If it is TownvTown wagons at this point, I have no problem at all believing there is at least one skum in that group.
- #506 "so either skum is bussing MiX, or they are not a known skum". I get that it is a reference to Town/Traitor vs Known Skum... but again, another reference to the upper right cell.
- He then limits MiX out of their lynch pool, leaving it between ADK and Ari.
- Unvotes ADK, then revotes shortly thereafter.
Summary - Given all the above, combined with the fact that Joeseph sits alone with myself and Mix on the wagon for ADK, and I think that between the three of them I like my chances in finding one skum... the skummiest of them to me is Joseph.
TLDR; I would lynch ADK to get the lynch off for the day. I do not want to lynch MiX... though if absolutely necessary, I would vs a no lynch. I prefer Joseph at this point.
I will be gone for the next 4-5 hours, and then I will be around for the 4-5 hours up to DL.
Vote: Joseph
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