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[IDontPlayThisGame]

I also think its fairly likely that flavor is tied to role based on the flips we have seen.

I strongly disagree with this.

Flavor and role are somewhat related. I came into this game completely against role claiming and asked faust N0 so I wouldn't have to wait for an answer if people brought up flavor claiming.

Why ask faust? Or what? You would know if your flavor matched your role.

I wanted to know if it was a coincidence or not since it has implications for flavor claiming.

Oh, and vote: Awaclus

[Swowl]

I am just gonna get ahead of the questions here and say that "my pr is complicated" (or at least it is to me). Specifically, it leads me to believe it is possible that Skum!Neighbor may of had a PR that expires, or is forced to be used at an exact time.
Essentially what I am trying to say that if there was a situation last night where Skum!Nieghbor was "forced" to be the person to carry out the kill - then they would of had to kill Jim right?  I am saying this under the assumption they would be removed from the Neighborhood or whatever once that was no longer part of their PR.

Does that make sense? I just re read it and I feel like it follows.

Jimmmmm was the one with the neighbor power, so even if the scum had a time-limited power, it would be something else and Jimmmmm wouldn't know anything. If there was a scum!Neighborizer, they would have their own separate neighborhood.

1. I did not think about how “neighbor” and neighborizor” would flip differently. So - idk what i am not getting here.... if is a skum Neighborizor - why would they ever like use their power just to shoot the neighbor he first chance?

[Robz888]

I am just gonna get ahead of the questions here and say that "my pr is complicated" (or at least it is to me). Specifically, it leads me to believe it is possible that Skum!Neighbor may of had a PR that expires, or is forced to be used at an exact time.
Essentially what I am trying to say that if there was a situation last night where Skum!Nieghbor was "forced" to be the person to carry out the kill - then they would of had to kill Jim right?  I am saying this under the assumption they would be removed from the Neighborhood or whatever once that was no longer part of their PR.

Does that make sense? I just re read it and I feel like it follows.

Jimmmmm was the one with the neighbor power, so even if the scum had a time-limited power, it would be something else and Jimmmmm wouldn't know anything. If there was a scum!Neighborizer, they would have their own separate neighborhood.

1. I did not think about how “neighbor” and neighborizor” would flip differently. So - idk what i am not getting here.... if is a skum Neighborizor - why would they ever like use their power just to shoot the neighbor he first chance?

Right, I think this is unlikely.

[mcmcsalot]

Okay so jimm being in a neighborhood I assume is coincidental. He was most likely in a neighborhood with the liver or multiple organs in the abdominal cavity.

[mcmcsalot]

Okay so jimm being in a neighborhood I assume is coincidental. He was most likely in a neighborhood with the liver or multiple organs in the abdominal cavity.

This was most likely an exisiting neighborhood from the beginning of the game with day chat. It potentially had night chat instead but would have been reveled at the beginning. I doubt the kill was to do with his neighborhood. Even if he was in a neighborhood with scum why are we assuming he divulged his role. I mean D1 in an rmm why ever do that.

[mcmcsalot]

DAMA I feel like I get what Hydrad is saying and that I did good things during the night. If that makes sense to hydrad he should let me know.

Ok i'll be honest I have no idea what this is trying to say. So no it does not make sense to me.

OHHH i am talking to datswan, nevermind hydrad.

I do not really agree with this in terms of "because to get his BP ability", just because I don't think a 1 shot BP is really like all that crazy strong - but whatever, not my primary point anyways. Main point would kind of the other side of what Galz pointed out about the Neighbor Changing or whatever.

I am just gonna get ahead of the questions here and say that "my pr is complicated" (or at least it is to me). Specifically, it leads me to believe it is possible that Skum!Neighbor may of had a PR that expires, or is forced to be used at an exact time.
Essentially what I am trying to say that if there was a situation last night where Skum!Nieghbor was "forced" to be the person to carry out the kill - then they would of had to kill Jim right?  I am saying this under the assumption they would be removed from the Neighborhood or whatever once that was no longer part of their PR.

Does that make sense? I just re read it and I feel like it follows.

So same to you datswan I think I get what you are saying and that I did good things during the night, if that makes sense let me know

[mcmcsalot]

Jimm was a total null factor yesterday. I think the wagon was actually fairly townie.

Lets go with sole pr related stuff then. For starters, I was targeted last night and I'll leave it there for now.

Why do you think that wagon was townie?

Just getting to this.

Obviously I have bias knowing I am town and I was the alternative wagon day 1, but I also did not feel like many of the votes on wagon were scummily manipulative votes more happy to go along an get a lynch votes

[mcmcsalot]

Hey, robz and efhw whats up?

[Hydrad]

OHHH i am talking to datswan, nevermind hydrad.

This seems to be becoming a commonish issue for some reason. I wonder why

[mcmcsalot]

OHHH i am talking to datswan, nevermind hydrad.

This seems to be becoming a commonish issue for some reason. I wonder why

I have no clue, the two of you don't mesh in my mind. I totally misread

[mcmcsalot]

oh buh by

[mcmcsalot]

idp though where you at

[IDontPlayThisGame]

idp though where you at

Work. Other than that, going through a reread of D1.

[mcmcsalot]

idp though where you at

Work. Other than that, going through a reread of D1.

did you find anything?

[IDontPlayThisGame]

idp though where you at

Work. Other than that, going through a reread of D1.

did you find anything?

So far, a reason to vote Awaclus.

[mcmcsalot]

idp though where you at

Work. Other than that, going through a reread of D1.

did you find anything?

So far, a reason to vote Awaclus.

UGHH, one other than him being awaclus?

[IDontPlayThisGame]

idp though where you at

Work. Other than that, going through a reread of D1.

did you find anything?

So far, a reason to vote Awaclus.

UGHH, one other than him being awaclus?

Yes. I'd like to hold onto it for now though, at least until I finish the reread. All I'll say is that it isn't a meta read.

[Swowl]

OHHH i am talking to datswan, nevermind hydrad.

This seems to be becoming a commonish issue for some reason. I wonder why

Right and this one I didn't even like catch. Other game sure - bc you were dead and it was like wtf, but now it is starting to get odd

[Swowl]

Meanwhile, here is some VCA from Day 1 - because IDK where else to start:

Vote Count 1.1
Robz888 (3): Robz888, gkrieg13, IDontPlayThisGame
Eevee (1): SpaceAnemone
IDontPlayThisGame (1): LaLight
gkrieg13 (1): Hydrad
Galrzia (1): mcmcsalot
Awaclus (1): Jimmmmm
Not Voting (6): EFHW, iguanaiguana, Eevee, Awaclus, DatSwan, Galzria
----Obv lots of RVS, so not reading into it a whole hell of a lot at this point. But I just hate it when people self vote, it almost always hits me as skummy---


Vote Count 1.2
Robz888 (2): Robz888, gkrieg13
Eevee (2): SpaceAnemone, LaLight
gkrieg13 (1): Hydrad
Awaclus (2): Jimmmmm, EFHW
mcmcsalot (1): iguanaiguana
LaLight (1): Eevee
Hydrad (2): IDontPlayThisGame, mcmcsalot
Not Voting (3): Awaclus, DatSwan, Galzria
---- Wagon on Robz gets up to L3 I think and then drops off and spreads. Later on who did what at this point may want to be looked back on if we ever see a Robz flip, but before that it is meh----
---- OK this is where it starts to get fun. In between 1.2 and 1.3 this is how it goes down:
Galz moves first from NoVote->MCMC in #222, then Awaclus from NoVote->MCMC in #229, then GK as the only one left on Robz->MCMC in #235. As this happens it creates a MCMC wagon of (4) quickly against the previously leading (2) wagons on Eevee, Awaclus, and Hydrad. After that Eevee then moves off of LL (leaving LL at fucking 0 votes btw)->GK. That brings us to VC 1.3.


Vote Count 1.3
Eevee (2): SpaceAnemone, LaLight
gkrieg13 (2): Hydrad, Eevee
Awaclus (1): EFHW
mcmcsalot (4): iguanaiguana, Galzria, Awaclus, gkrieg13
Hydrad (2): IDontPlayThisGame, mcmcsalot
SpaceAnemone (1): Robz888
IDontPlayThisGame (1): Jimmmmm
Not Voting (1): DatSwan

----We get to 1.4 by LL joining MCMC wagon to make it L-3, EFHW moves to LL, and GK joins LL wagon with EFHW to make it 2 LL vs 4 MCMC----


Vote Count 1.4
Eevee (1): SpaceAnemone
gkrieg13 (2): Hydrad, Eevee
mcmcsalot (4): iguanaiguana, Galzria, Awaclus, LaLight
Hydrad (2): IDontPlayThisGame, mcmcsalot
SpaceAnemone (1): Robz888
IDontPlayThisGame (1): Jimmmmm
LaLight (2): EFHW, gkrieg13
Not Voting (1): DatSwan

---- From here MCMC moves to LL from Hydrad, and Galz switches from MCMC wagon to LL wagon to make it MCMC(3) vs LL(4).
Then Hydrad switches from GK to LL to make it MCMC(3) vs LL(5).
Then Eevee switches from GK to LL making it MCMC(3) vs LL(6). Putting it at L-2. People off the wagon at this point are Space, II, Awaclus, IDP, Robz, Jim, Swan, and of course LL.
This brings us to 1.5.


Vote Count 1.5
Eevee (1): SpaceAnemone
mcmcsalot (3): iguanaiguana, Awaclus, LaLight
Hydrad (1): IDontPlayThisGame
SpaceAnemone (1): Robz888
IDontPlayThisGame (1): Jimmmmm
LaLight (6): EFHW, gkrieg13, mcmcsalot, Galzria, Hydrad, Eevee
Not Voting (1): DatSwan

---- We start from here with me putting LL at L-1. Then Jim makes it clear he will hammer without issue. Space ends up switching off of Eevee to hammer LL. We needed a lynch, so I do not find Space's hammer specifically to be skummy. Especially considering that if Space and Jim are not both skum then why would they kill Jim last night? I was already pretty much there before, but end of day actions pretty much put Space on my non-lynchable list. I am gonna look more into Eevee, Hydrad, Galz, and GK.

going with Vote: GK for the time being.

[Hydrad]

Vote: gkrieg

i'm ok with this.

[Swowl]

Vote: gkrieg

i'm ok with this.

Can you just remind me so I don't have to look it up please? Were you the "gut feel" GK vote yesterday or did you have a reason?

[faust]

Vote Count 2.1

Awaclus (1): IDontPlayThisGame
gkrieg13 (2): DatSwan, Hydrad

Not Voting (9): EFHW, gkrieg13, iguanaiguana, Eevee, Awaclus, SpaceAnemone, mcmcsalot, Robz888, Galzria

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 2 ends June 11, 2018, 03:30:00 am.

[Hydrad]

Vote: gkrieg

i'm ok with this.

Can you just remind me so I don't have to look it up please? Were you the "gut feel" GK vote yesterday or did you have a reason?

mainly gut feel I guess. But I just feel like hes different then his usual self in the last couple games i've seen. And I think hes been town in all those games I've seen. So therefore, Gkreig = scum.

[EFHW]

OHHH i am talking to datswan, nevermind hydrad.

This seems to be becoming a commonish issue for some reason. I wonder why

Right and this one I didn't even like catch. Other game sure - bc you were dead and it was like wtf, but now it is starting to get odd

It's your avatars.

[EFHW]

Hey, robz and efhw whats up?

I'm here. Have been posting. No ideas yet about possible scum.