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[Jimmmmm]

Also unless I'm missing something Motion Detector is not a super powerful role.

[faust]

Vote Count 1.6

Eevee (1): SpaceAnemone
mcmcsalot (3): iguanaiguana, Awaclus, LaLight
Hydrad (1): IDontPlayThisGame
SpaceAnemone (1): Robz888
IDontPlayThisGame (1): Jimmmmm
LaLight (7): EFHW, gkrieg13, mcmcsalot, Galzria, Hydrad, Eevee, DatSwan

Not Voting (0)

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Day 1 ends May 31, 2018, 06:00:00 am. That is in 1 hour.

[Swowl]

I’m motion detector who’ll know how many motions were there. Also all the reads i always have are gut feelings i can’t really explain with a lot of words and like huge percentage of you is aware of that

So this claim is not enough to get me off LL right now, but I should point out they added in the part where they get to know how many motions. Is there any merit in getting them to agree to a full claim tomorrow, and if they are lying about the role we can call them out on the amount of movement?

I feel like this is kind of the problem with RMM. If we let LL off the hook due to the claim, then get say mcmc up to L-1, but he claims some cool PR so we just end up no lynching and have achieved nothing except two claims.

[SpaceAnemone]

Here and mostly caught up, except for one of Swan's WoTs, because I may have a meeting starting any moment now...

Vote: LL

Sorry, friend! You're probably what you say you are, but I'm not confident enough to go against town consensus to a no-lynch. Argh. We can sometimes read each other pretty well, and I feel like I'm not getting super scum vibes from you, but OTOH you were scumreading me at some point, and I'm super-townie-Space this time round, so something's at least slightly off :-(

[LaLight]

not sure how it suddenly started to happen that I am mislynched so often... anyway, I am what I said I am. If you didn't lynch me and even had a no lynch, I'd bring some information.

[faust]

Day 1 Final Vote Count

mcmcsalot (3): iguanaiguana, Awaclus, LaLight
Hydrad (1): IDontPlayThisGame
SpaceAnemone (1): Robz888
IDontPlayThisGame (1): Jimmmmm
LaLight (8): EFHW, gkrieg13, mcmcsalot, Galzria, Hydrad, Eevee, DatSwan, SpaceAnemone

Not Voting (0)

With 14 alive, it took 8 to lynch.

[faust]

That morning, Alex woke up feeling particularly bad. Their skin was itching all over and they could see strange red dots bobbing up on their skin. Alex was happy when they finally sat in the doctor's office. Unfortunately, he seemed at a loss and could not find a fitting diagnosis. A first guess was atopic dermititis, but after some tests it turned out to be wrong, not to mention that it wouldn't account for the rest of Alex's symptoms.

The doctor suggested that Alex should visit a hospital and prescribed some painkillers. Upon arriving at the hospital, Alex was told that they could only take them in in some weeks, when they would have free beds. So there was to be more waiting.

Alex sat at home. The painkillers only helped so much. They knew they weren't supposed to, but they could not stop scratching, scratching, scratching...

LaLight has been lynched! They were the Skin, the Quantitative Motion Detector!

Night 1 begins now. Since I will be at a wedding over the weekend, Night will probably last until Monday. The Night action deadline is extended until June 02, 2018, 12:00:00 pm.

Thread locked!

[faust]

Alex was finally admitted to a nearby hospital. They ran some general checks and tried to understand what caused their condition.

One day, a doctor entered Alex's room. "We have found something", she said matter-of-factly. "It does not explain all your symptoms, but definitely would cause some of them. Look here." She showed some pictures taken with MRI. They showed Alex's torso. "See these lumps?" She pointed to several lightly-colored areas. "It is very likely that those are transitional cell carcinoma. That is to say..."

"Cancer", Alex finished. They stared at the pictures in disbelief.

Jimmmmm has been killed! They were the Kidney, the Neighbor/1-shot Bulletproofer!

Day 2 begins!

Vote Count 2.0

Not Voting (12): EFHW, gkrieg13, iguanaiguana, Eevee, Awaclus, SpaceAnemone, Hydrad, mcmcsalot, Robz888, DatSwan, Galzria, IDontPlayThisGame

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 2 ends June 11, 2018, 03:30:00 am.

[Hydrad]

huh a jimmm kill? interesting. I wonder why they picked that?

[gkrieg13]

huh a jimmm kill? interesting. I wonder why they picked that?

Probably his neighbor is scum and he told them what his role was.

[mcmcsalot]

Day 1 Wagon

mcmcsalot (3): iguanaiguana, Awaclus, LaLight
Hydrad (1): IDontPlayThisGame
SpaceAnemone (1): Robz888
IDontPlayThisGame (1): Jimmmmm
LaLight (8): EFHW, gkrieg13, mcmcsalot, Galzria, Hydrad, Eevee, DatSwan, SpaceAnemone

Not Voting (0)

[mcmcsalot]

I also think its fairly likely that flavor is tied to role based on the flips we have seen.

[mcmcsalot]

Jimm was a total null factor yesterday. I think the wagon was actually fairly townie.

Lets go with sole pr related stuff then. For starters, I was targeted last night and I'll leave it there for now.

[Awaclus]

I think the wagon was actually fairly townie.

Based on the fact that you were on the wagon, I don't.

[gkrieg13]

Jimm was a total null factor yesterday. I think the wagon was actually fairly townie.

Lets go with sole pr related stuff then. For starters, I was targeted last night and I'll leave it there for now.

Why do you think that wagon was townie?

[SpaceAnemone]

Gah, sorry I made the wrong call to hammer LL :-(

Should I have let it run to no-lynch? I'm in the same position at the end of D2, should I do it differently? Given that the next deadline is about 30 minutes before I typically wake up, and that I sleep really badly if I know I have to wake early, I think I'd much prefer not to have to be the lynch safeguard this time round, especially since apparently I suck at it..

[EFHW]

Gah, sorry I made the wrong call to hammer LL :-(

Should I have let it run to no-lynch? I'm in the same position at the end of D2, should I do it differently? Given that the next deadline is about 30 minutes before I typically wake up, and that I sleep really badly if I know I have to wake early, I think I'd much prefer not to have to be the lynch safeguard this time round, especially since apparently I suck at it..

Why all the self recriminations? Hammering was the right move,  even though we ended up being wrong
 

[gkrieg13]

I also think its fairly likely that flavor is tied to role based on the flips we have seen.

I strongly disagree with this.

[gkrieg13]

If Jimmmm used his bulletproofer shot, would the mafia that inherited his role from killing him (assuming that is how he died) also get a shot, or would they just be a neighbor?

[Eevee]

Gah, sorry I made the wrong call to hammer LL :-(

Should I have let it run to no-lynch? I'm in the same position at the end of D2, should I do it differently? Given that the next deadline is about 30 minutes before I typically wake up, and that I sleep really badly if I know I have to wake early, I think I'd much prefer not to have to be the lynch safeguard this time round, especially since apparently I suck at it..

We collectively missed the deadline and didn’t have enough players online for any other lynch, no need to blame yourself.

PPE: Took forever to get this posted on a questionable train wifi, slow ponied by EFHW. Space’s tone caught my ear as well.

I’m going to be on somewhat limited availability until friday, visiting my girlfriend who’s doing a uni exchange in rotterdam.

[gkrieg13]

Caught up. Only thing that stuck out to me was this post by Space:

Presumably, the main things governing whether people want to claim are how much they like solving setups (rather that just trying to catch people out for "sounding scummy"), and how much extra information they feel their role gives them compared to what they think the average role will have.

Scum is clearly at an advantage for the latter point, because they get to know what the roles of themselves and their three buddies are, assuming they're all in a faction QT. Though 4/14 scums seems pretty strong, especially when they can essentially eat the roles of the rest of us, so I wonder whether any of them start out with nerfs. Still, with them able to eat our roles, I don't think letting on the relative strengths of our powers is a good idea even if we have a decent level of protection available to help us keep strong town roles in alive townies' hands, because I don't think faust would design a game that could be easily solved by town just by revealing stuff.

I bolded the suspicious part. I mean, this is a valid theory, but it's a possibility that wouldn't really have immediately occurred to me. I think a scum who does indeed have a nerf , or is on a team with a nerf'd scum, is likely to think of it, though!

Vote: Space

Makes sense to me!

Vote: Space

As for the time, I'm glad someone brought it up because I missed it (people tend to use forum time which is also my timezone). Hopefully it won't cause issues now that everyone knows about it.

I actually think this post is super scummy. Why would you care about the timezone thing if forum time is your timezone anyway? This sounds like a fake "Go Town!" post.

Vote: IDPTG

Happy to join the LaLight wagon, and intend to do so in the next couple of hours.

2) Jimmmm (7): Idk what to say here. Has 7 posts and they all consist of RVS, voting players based on timezones or setup talk, and declaring they will be there for DL.

I legitimately thing IDPTG is scummy and LaLight is kind of scummy.

Like i believe you... i just don’t know why (or does anyone but you), which is not a strong town tactic

From these, I would say that IDPTG, Space and Datswan have a low likelihood of being the other neighbor.  That just leaves 8 candidates.  Interesting how he never really acknowledged the mcmcsalot wagon

[gkrieg13]

I have no idea what is happening in this game.

nothing really yet.

I know I'm kind of grasping at straws here, but Hydrad also doesn't seem like a neighbor.

[gkrieg13]

Deadline is fine for me. Vote: Awaclus

Don't know about this RVS.  Pretty WIFOM.

Also I guess I'm using the assumption that the neighborhood was open during the day, which isn't necessarily the case.

[Galzria]

If Jimmmm used his bulletproofer shot, would the mafia that inherited his role from killing him (assuming that is how he died) also get a shot, or would they just be a neighbor?

Hold up -

Scum inherit the powers of the night-killed, yes?

So if Jimmm's neighbor is still alive and is town, then would scum have taken Jimmm's place in the neighborhood? --- That is:

If someone were Jimmm's neighbor, and they now have a new person in their QT, that person must be scum...

Right?

[Hydrad]

If Jimmmm used his bulletproofer shot, would the mafia that inherited his role from killing him (assuming that is how he died) also get a shot, or would they just be a neighbor?

Hold up -

Scum inherit the powers of the night-killed, yes?

So if Jimmm's neighbor is still alive and is town, then would scum have taken Jimmm's place in the neighborhood? --- That is:

If someone were Jimmm's neighbor, and they now have a new person in their QT, that person must be scum...

Right?

I'd assume so.

But I don't think scum is forced to talk in it to reveal theirself.