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[Witherweaver]

Post leader.  *Flex*

Yeah, you illustrate really nicely why post counts are no good as a quantitative measure :-P

I still think it's useful in order to get a feel for order-of-magnitude levels of posting history, though.

Don't belittle my accomplishments.

[Robz888]

Vote Count 1.10

LaLight (3): Jimmmmm, gkrieg, SpaceAnemone
gkrieg13 (4): 2.71828, LaLight, Witherweaver, RoadRunner7671
RoadRunner7671 (3): Qvist, DatSwan, Archetype
DatSwan (2): iguaniguana, faust
Witherweaver (3): O, Teproc, Eevee
IDontPlayThisGame (1): Galzria

Not Voting (1): IDontPlayThisGame

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch. Day 1 ends Monday, September 25th, at 2:00 PM. Godspeed.

[Roadrunner7671]

RoadRunner (35 posts): Seems to be flaily town for D1.

I'm not flailing!

[Galzria]

I could support LL, but he doesn't feel like my 100 partner LL here, so I'm not really convinced he's scum. But at least his is a good case.

[Roadrunner7671]

Back to Vote: Datswam

[Swowl]

Back to Vote: Datswam

Just in case it matters - you misspelled

[Roadrunner7671]

Back to Vote: Datswam

Just in case it matters - you misspelled

Thank you!
Vote: Datswan

[IDontPlayThisGame]

I could support an IDPTG wagon. Not my top choice, but not the worst either.

The only things of value that he's said are "I don't want my vote on LaLight anymore." And "I don't like having my RVS vote on a wagon" (in reference to the first).

7 posts total though, so interactions are limited.

I've been having a LOT of trouble getting into this game in general and life took over yesterday and much of today. I wouldn't consider myself the worst mislynch. I don't think you'll learn anything but it keeps the more useful town people alive. I'll try to be around for tomorrow morning (forum time) but I'm going to sleep now and I won't be able to post past 11:45 AM forum time.

IDontPlayThisGame (7 posts): Wow, virtually no content, but currently VLA. I remember town!IDP being considerably more proactive at scum-hunting.

For the sake of honesty, I haven't been V/LA- I just haven't found anything to post.

[2.71828.....]

Sorry - I feel like this D1 has been tough. D2 should be better for me, but we still need a lynch today.

[LaLight]

I am sorry for going absent without much informing, there were some crazy events the last couple of days. First of all wanted to say that last 2-3 games people say I'm acting weird and scumread me though I am town every time. And I feel the same here

[LaLight]

I'll get to rereading in ~2 hours

[LaLight]

The 8 (!!) people not voting need to vote. This game is stagnating, and we're now going for another round of theory talk re: e's plan (not saying it's necessarily bad, but it shouldn't prevent us from scumhunting).

Actually, I think we should lynch within the lurkers, so vote: RR.

I really don't like this post from Teproc. That's exactly what scum does: trying to show they care about all people at once and following the game closely.

This is scummy from gkrieg:

I would expect him to have voted.

I'm not sure you know RR then.

vote: RR

Qvist is mostly speaking about claiming plan, I don't like it.

This looks like DatSwan is trying to get some towncred:

wow DAMA I guess, I totally mis read...
I thought the action was to claim... like claim role.

Yes - this makes sense sorry.

I don't like how after RR posted some clearly non-town stuff people sterted to say he's town. Especially WW

RR (7): Iguana, Qvist, Swan, Galz, Faust, Arche, Eevee

That would be L-2. unvote for now. Got time. Wanna think.

what is so bad in L-2? More pressure is better

Is it just me or are people just voting randomly. Very few votes were made with reasonable explanations. I know this is day 1, but many didn't even bother explaining, just voted.
I will keep my vote at RR because his reaction was way too defensive when he saw the train going and only outed his lurking, that is my reasoning at least.
And as others pointed out, RR should probably claim now, IMHO.

Scummy, why would he claim now?

The Gkrieg wagon is bad and you should feel bad.

This isn't convincing from you

Neither is any case on Gkrieg. He used too many exclamations? Oh no!

Just imagine for a second that gkreig is mafia and we successfully lynch him because he used too many explanation points.

Just imagine for a second that Gkrieg is town and we unfortunately mislynch him because he used too many exclamation points.

Have you proposed any alternative?

So, you people refusing to vote for gkrieg because there is no case... are you going to present the awesome case on the people that you ARE voting for some time soon?

Oh how I like this post! I would write something like that!

Faster, faster, scums, maybe you'll get a derphammer and less analyze material for town!

Actually i am glad that this wagon is happening. Quite informative

This post is slightly scummy from LaLight.  He knows this is what town should feel like, but the feeling seems a little hollow compared to town!LaLight.

He even starts trying to analyze his own wagon.  The reaction to the votes just seems too fast IMO.

What does it mean, "hollow", "too fast"? These are general words that I can't see meaning of.

Look. There is 16 people i have no idea of alignment of. [most of quote snipped]

Once again, this looks like LaLight trying too hard.  I must be really reading LaLight as scum, because now every single one of his posts is scummy to me.

This is called "Confirmation bias" and you should know this. We walked through this in couple of previous games, but I think you were scum there. I also think you are scum here, because it just feels the same.

Quickly reread LaLight, and I can see what gkrieg is saying. I like my vote on WW still, but I could vote for LL as well if the wagon's shake the right way. Not really interested in gkrieg (the reread looks towny! I like how there are some weaker points/more controversial opinions there as well, seems like town attempting to make analysis without too much care for how it makes themselves look) or RR (as referenced about, simply didn't seem scummy to me on reread).

gkrieg's rereads always look insightful and townie, no matter the alignment. This is a weak reason to start townreading him.

LaLight (41 posts): Lots of early-game scum-reads and accusations, which isn't quite his usual friendly self. Weird townreading logic at #236. Feels a bit defensive. Then goes totally VLA for four days. Leaning scummier than I'd remembered.

This is just like how I play lately. I noticed my style changed and people noticed it and scumread me. Last games proved I am town when doing this. I mean, yeah, it's quite bad I started to be less friendly, but it's not scummy. I just changed.

I could support LL, but he doesn't feel like my 100 partner LL here, so I'm not really convinced he's scum. But at least his is a good case.

What is the case again? Being not townread?

Overall I have a deep feeling that scums are ruling this day by moving somewhere with certainty and town is following them there because there's this certainty. I think Teproc/gkrieg/WW are scum to a higher extent, Space and Galzria to a less extent. I am leaving my vote on gkrieg because as I have already said, he scumreads me as town all the time when he is scum himself.

[LaLight]

also Qvist is on scummy side for either talking about claiming plan or asking why people think other people are scummy.

I feel that town is more confused here on D1 than scum. I feel confused as well

[faust]

Vote Count 1.10

LaLight (3): Jimmmmm, gkrieg, SpaceAnemone
gkrieg13 (4): 2.71828, LaLight, Witherweaver, RoadRunner7671
RoadRunner7671 (3): Qvist, DatSwan, Archetype
DatSwan (2): iguaniguana, faust
Witherweaver (3): O, Teproc, Eevee
IDontPlayThisGame (1): Galzria

Not Voting (1): IDontPlayThisGame

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch. Day 1 ends Monday, September 25th, at 2:00 PM. Godspeed.

Looking at these wagons, I don't really want to vote for LaLight or WW. gkrieg has not been scummy enough to warrant a D1 lynch. Out of RR/DatSwan/Idplay I'm fine with either. Idplay is a bit of a shot in the dark, but he he lurking hard and that doesn't help. RR is too concerned about what people think of him, that's scummy. Also long self-explaining posts are scummy for RR. DatSwan... the thing I thought I had earlier wasn't actually verysolid on closer investigation. On the other hand, there is just not much else.

I think I want to be at vote: RR for the time being.

[Eevee]

Vote: LL

There seems to be no momentum for WW, moving to my 2nd choice.

Interesting that faust and me have seem to have like totally opposite reads from each other. Bound to happen with someone in a game this size, though.

[LaLight]

6 hours to deadline

[Witherweaver]

Vote: LL

There seems to be no momentum for WW, moving to my 2nd choice.

Interesting that faust and me have seem to have like totally opposite reads from each other. Bound to happen with someone in a game this size, though.

Why is it you don't like Gkrieg?

I'm willing to move to LaLight.

Also worth noting for later on, Faust defending me (or at least being mildly adverse to my lynch) is more commonly a scum!Faust thing from my memory.

[Roadrunner7671]

I hope I can be around for it but no promises

[LaLight]

I am here all the time. I ask you to reevaluate your read on me

[Roadrunner7671]

I'm torn between not wanting to lynch LL because he's contributing and wanting to lynch him because he has lots of interactions.

[LaLight]

I'm torn between not wanting to lynch LL because he's contributing and wanting to lynch him because he has lots of interactions.

if we would always lynch someone based on the amount of interactions they have we would become a Lurking Society

[Jimmmmm]

After re-reading gkrieg and LaLight, I prefer LL, so I'll leave my vote there.

I still think Qvist and Galz are scummy, Eevee and RR are Towny, and ii is probably Town.

Sadly deadline is something like 4am for me, so I won't be around then.

[Roadrunner7671]

I'm torn between not wanting to lynch LL because he's contributing and wanting to lynch him because he has lots of interactions.

if we would always lynch someone based on the amount of interactions they have we would become a Lurking Society

I know, but this is a one time thing and not necessarily a policy thing.

[Eevee]

Vote: LL

There seems to be no momentum for WW, moving to my 2nd choice.

Interesting that faust and me have seem to have like totally opposite reads from each other. Bound to happen with someone in a game this size, though.

Why is it you don't like Gkrieg?

I'm willing to move to LaLight.

Also worth noting for later on, Faust defending me (or at least being mildly adverse to my lynch) is more commonly a scum!Faust thing from my memory.

Some towny opinions in gkrieg's reread post, and when many others want to lynch someone and you don't really get why, it's usually a bad idea to join.

[Eevee]

I'll be here on and off until the deadline.