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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #225 on: December 31, 2016, 05:24:11 pm »

Joseph's flavor claim stuff is bad, but it's not scummy. Important difference.

McGarnacle's jumping on this weaksauce argument while feeling the need to provide an explanation for the vote - that is scummy.

Vote: McGarnacle
Can you show me where this was?  I see him/me giving an opinion ("highly irregular") and voting next post.  Is that what you mean?
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #226 on: December 31, 2016, 05:26:59 pm »

I will back off Joseph for now but i'm telling you he's scum also town reads IDP, Robz and Mcmc
Scum reads from Big G, TWM, and Awa and of course Joseph

Why a scum read from me?
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #227 on: December 31, 2016, 05:27:47 pm »

Here is the sequence of posts:
vote: Joseph saying things like this is what makes rvs last longer, in fact I think Faust was just getting us out of it and I think it's scummy to act like nothing being said is important.

Agreed. This seems like a highly irregular thing to suggest doing on D1.

vote: Joseph

Why not vote mcmc?  He also explained his vote.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #228 on: December 31, 2016, 05:46:51 pm »

Why are you reacting so strongly to this? But not to my serious and what I think are legitimate questions?

What questions?
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #229 on: December 31, 2016, 06:05:32 pm »

Was about to come and post that joseph was deliberately ignoring me. Glad I don't have to do that.

Why are you reacting so strongly to this? But not to my serious and what I think are legitimate questions?

What questions?

But thanks for asking, I am happy to clarify and point them out.

I asked this question a while back

I'm the head of the department of the colour yellow

I get not claiming a role (which I like- I think it's too early), but all that buildup into absolutely nothing seems iffy. I just don't think town would make that threat. However, town!Joseph made a similar type threat in NM9.
We wanted action rather than RVs, and something to talk about.
And now we got that.

Anyone who actually thinks I was going to claim is an idiot.

We were already out of RVS. Pulling stunts wasn't necessary and further more it isn't necessary to insult those who raised an eyebrow at what you did. If your whole point was to get people out of RVS shouldn't they have some sort of reaction? So did you expect us to not react? Then how would we get out of RVS if we all just ignored it?

And the referenced it here in hopes you would be prompted to answer here

Joseph's a bit out there. He tends to do that stuff as either alignment, but I think as scum he'd feel forced to do something like that while town play might be a bit more natural. So slight scum read on that.

Does he also usually ignore the questions that people asked him?

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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #230 on: December 31, 2016, 06:06:27 pm »

I will back off Joseph for now but i'm telling you he's scum also town reads IDP, Robz and Mcmc
Scum reads from Big G, TWM, and Awa and of course Joseph

Why a scum read from me?

Same question. Looks more like you pulled reads from a random number generator.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #231 on: December 31, 2016, 06:08:08 pm »

Here is the sequence of posts:
vote: Joseph saying things like this is what makes rvs last longer, in fact I think Faust was just getting us out of it and I think it's scummy to act like nothing being said is important.

Agreed. This seems like a highly irregular thing to suggest doing on D1.

vote: Joseph

Why not vote mcmc?  He also explained his vote.

In fairness I also voted immediately after mcmc's post and vote.

I just tried to Vote: Joseph under mcmc's post but the forum wouldn't let me.

I wanted to say I agreed with his logic.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #232 on: December 31, 2016, 06:13:53 pm »

It's a correct spelling. It's spelled differently in American English.
Yes it is. I'm not going to use better spellings just because the rest of the world does

FTFY
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #233 on: December 31, 2016, 06:17:22 pm »

I will back off Joseph for now but i'm telling you he's scum also town reads IDP, Robz and Mcmc
Scum reads from Big G, TWM, and Awa and of course Joseph

Why a scum read from me?
Just a gut feeling. Won't lynch you until I have more info or ammo.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #234 on: December 31, 2016, 06:30:55 pm »

It's a correct spelling. It's spelled differently in American English.
Yes it is. I'm not going to use better spellings just because the rest of the world does

FTFY
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #235 on: December 31, 2016, 06:34:34 pm »

Was about to come and post that joseph was deliberately ignoring me. Glad I don't have to do that.

Why are you reacting so strongly to this? But not to my serious and what I think are legitimate questions?

What questions?

But thanks for asking, I am happy to clarify and point them out.

I asked this question a while back

I'm the head of the department of the colour yellow

I get not claiming a role (which I like- I think it's too early), but all that buildup into absolutely nothing seems iffy. I just don't think town would make that threat. However, town!Joseph made a similar type threat in NM9.
We wanted action rather than RVs, and something to talk about.
And now we got that.

Anyone who actually thinks I was going to claim is an idiot.

We were already out of RVS. Pulling stunts wasn't necessary and further more it isn't necessary to insult those who raised an eyebrow at what you did. If your whole point was to get people out of RVS shouldn't they have some sort of reaction? So did you expect us to not react? Then how would we get out of RVS if we all just ignored it?

And the referenced it here in hopes you would be prompted to answer here

Joseph's a bit out there. He tends to do that stuff as either alignment, but I think as scum he'd feel forced to do something like that while town play might be a bit more natural. So slight scum read on that.

Does he also usually ignore the questions that people asked him?
Well we were out of RVS, but not much was actually happening. I made some things happen.
And any experienced player would now that claiming within a few hours of the game starting is so wrong, so it should obviously be seen as a stunt.
A stunt to get reactions.
And we got some reactions. No reactions would have been bad, but I expected lots of reactions.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #236 on: December 31, 2016, 06:53:11 pm »

Well we were out of RVS, but not much was actually happening. I made some things happen.
And any experienced player would now that claiming within a few hours of the game starting is so wrong, so it should obviously be seen as a stunt.
A stunt to get reactions.
And we got some reactions. No reactions would have been bad, but I expected lots of reactions.

I feel like you are saying that you wanted things to happen (people reacting to your posts about claiming), but were disappointed when things did happened (people saying you shouldn't claim and voting you for it) because you thought no one should have done the things they did (say you shouldn't claim and vote you for it). But if you didn't want reactions why did you do what you did?

Or am I just completely missing what you are saying? I am trying to understand. But I feel like I understand about 25% of what you post.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #237 on: December 31, 2016, 07:12:13 pm »

Well we were out of RVS, but not much was actually happening. I made some things happen.
And any experienced player would now that claiming within a few hours of the game starting is so wrong, so it should obviously be seen as a stunt.
A stunt to get reactions.
And we got some reactions. No reactions would have been bad, but I expected lots of reactions.

I feel like you are saying that you wanted things to happen (people reacting to your posts about claiming), but were disappointed when things did happened (people saying you shouldn't claim and voting you for it) because you thought no one should have done the things they did (say you shouldn't claim and vote you for it). But if you didn't want reactions why did you do what you did?

Or am I just completely missing what you are saying? I am trying to understand. But I feel like I understand about 25% of what you post.
Joseph just like's controversy but this is just a little different than what he usually does which is one of my reasons for voting.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #238 on: December 31, 2016, 07:15:09 pm »

Well we were out of RVS, but not much was actually happening. I made some things happen.
And any experienced player would now that claiming within a few hours of the game starting is so wrong, so it should obviously be seen as a stunt.
A stunt to get reactions.
And we got some reactions. No reactions would have been bad, but I expected lots of reactions.

I feel like you are saying that you wanted things to happen (people reacting to your posts about claiming), but were disappointed when things did happened (people saying you shouldn't claim and voting you for it) because you thought no one should have done the things they did (say you shouldn't claim and vote you for it). But if you didn't want reactions why did you do what you did?

Or am I just completely missing what you are saying? I am trying to understand. But I feel like I understand about 25% of what you post.
Sounds about right. I wanted reactions, but got too many negative reactions.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #239 on: December 31, 2016, 07:19:18 pm »

Well we were out of RVS, but not much was actually happening. I made some things happen.
And any experienced player would now that claiming within a few hours of the game starting is so wrong, so it should obviously be seen as a stunt.
A stunt to get reactions.
And we got some reactions. No reactions would have been bad, but I expected lots of reactions.

I feel like you are saying that you wanted things to happen (people reacting to your posts about claiming), but were disappointed when things did happened (people saying you shouldn't claim and voting you for it) because you thought no one should have done the things they did (say you shouldn't claim and vote you for it). But if you didn't want reactions why did you do what you did?

Or am I just completely missing what you are saying? I am trying to understand. But I feel like I understand about 25% of what you post.
Sounds about right. I wanted reactions, but got too many negative reactions.

So...you wanted reactions supporting you claiming early in D1 at L-2. And you're saying people should know that you were never serious. Is this correct?

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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #240 on: December 31, 2016, 07:19:39 pm »

town reads IDP, Robz and Mcmc
Scum reads from Big G, TWM, and Awa
What are these based on?
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #241 on: December 31, 2016, 07:28:58 pm »

Well we were out of RVS, but not much was actually happening. I made some things happen.
And any experienced player would now that claiming within a few hours of the game starting is so wrong, so it should obviously be seen as a stunt.
A stunt to get reactions.
And we got some reactions. No reactions would have been bad, but I expected lots of reactions.

I feel like you are saying that you wanted things to happen (people reacting to your posts about claiming), but were disappointed when things did happened (people saying you shouldn't claim and voting you for it) because you thought no one should have done the things they did (say you shouldn't claim and vote you for it). But if you didn't want reactions why did you do what you did?

Or am I just completely missing what you are saying? I am trying to understand. But I feel like I understand about 25% of what you post.
Sounds about right. I wanted reactions, but got too many negative reactions.

And have you assessed those reactions? What did you learn? Who reacted in a way mafia would? Who reacted like town? I haven't seen you do any assessment, so what was the point? That makes me think you didn't have an original point and you are making up an explanation as you go.

Vote: Jospeh
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #242 on: December 31, 2016, 07:41:53 pm »

town reads IDP, Robz and Mcmc
Scum reads from Big G, TWM, and Awa
What are these based on?

I think his scum reads are slightly based on getting scum reads from other people.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #243 on: December 31, 2016, 09:01:59 pm »

2am here, will reply to these good questions later today.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #244 on: January 01, 2017, 01:11:30 am »

town reads IDP, Robz and Mcmc
Scum reads from Big G, TWM, and Awa
What are these based on?

I think his scum reads are slightly based on getting scum reads from other people.
Ok i'll explain TWM is acting more newbie than he says he is. Awa has not done much that would point to him being town. Big G is just rubbing me the wrong way.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #245 on: January 01, 2017, 02:09:34 am »

town reads IDP, Robz and Mcmc
Scum reads from Big G, TWM, and Awa
What are these based on?

I think his scum reads are slightly based on getting scum reads from other people.
Ok i'll explain TWM is acting more newbie than he says he is. Awa has not done much that would point to him being town. Big G is just rubbing me the wrong way.

That is a poor explanation, at least for me. As I don't understand what you mean by it.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #246 on: January 01, 2017, 02:46:47 am »

town reads IDP, Robz and Mcmc
Scum reads from Big G, TWM, and Awa
What are these based on?

I think his scum reads are slightly based on getting scum reads from other people.
Ok i'll explain TWM is acting more newbie than he says he is. Awa has not done much that would point to him being town. Big G is just rubbing me the wrong way.

That is a poor explanation, at least for me. As I don't understand what you mean by it.

And really the other two explanations are just generic statements as well.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #247 on: January 01, 2017, 07:05:26 am »

Joseph's flavor claim stuff is bad, but it's not scummy. Important difference.

McGarnacle's jumping on this weaksauce argument while feeling the need to provide an explanation for the vote - that is scummy.

Vote: McGarnacle
Can you show me where this was?  I see him/me giving an opinion ("highly irregular") and voting next post.  Is that what you mean?
Yes.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #248 on: January 01, 2017, 07:07:31 am »

Here is the sequence of posts:
vote: Joseph saying things like this is what makes rvs last longer, in fact I think Faust was just getting us out of it and I think it's scummy to act like nothing being said is important.

Agreed. This seems like a highly irregular thing to suggest doing on D1.

vote: Joseph

Why not vote mcmc?  He also explained his vote.
Because mcmc made the argument originally (which is still a bad argument), while McGarn's post is just jumpy and his reasoning sounds forced.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #249 on: January 01, 2017, 07:10:39 am »

And have you assessed those reactions? What did you learn? Who reacted in a way mafia would? Who reacted like town? I haven't seen you do any assessment, so what was the point? That makes me think you didn't have an original point and you are making up an explanation as you go.

Vote: Jospeh
You think scum!Joseph just did this thing for no reason at all?
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