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[pacovf]

Well, that was the hammer. J Reggie, anything you want to add?

[pacovf]

Forum is being very moody. I might not be able to log in again in an hour. Hopefully that's not the case, but...

[LaLight]

Catching up. Forum is moody indeed

[LaLight]

Right.

My scumreads from scum to town are:

JR > Eevee >> Robz > WW >  Calamitas > Pacovf >> SA > mcmc

[Calamitas]

Why the strong townread on mcm?

[LaLight]

Why the strong townread on mcm?

Not really a strong townread. I don't have any strong townreads. Just the least scummy of all.

[Calamitas]

Why the strong townread on mcm?

Not really a strong townread. I don't have any strong townreads. Just the least scummy of all.

Which resembles a strong townread

[LaLight]

Why the strong townread on mcm?

Not really a strong townread. I don't have any strong townreads. Just the least scummy of all.

Which resembles a strong townread

Well, let's do this. If 1 is conf!scum and 0 is conf!town, then I have:

JR (0,75) > Eevee (0,7) >> Robz (0,6) > WW (0,55) >  Calamitas (0,5) > Pacovf (0,4) >> SA (0,25) > mcmc (0,2)

[Calamitas]

Why the strong townread on mcm?

Not really a strong townread. I don't have any strong townreads. Just the least scummy of all.

Which resembles a strong townread

Well, let's do this. If 1 is conf!scum and 0 is conf!town, then I have:

JR (0,75) > Eevee (0,7) >> Robz (0,6) > WW (0,55) >  Calamitas (0,5) > Pacovf (0,4) >> SA (0,25) > mcmc (0,2)

The sum must be 3 though
But I see what you are meaning.

[LaLight]

Why the strong townread on mcm?

Not really a strong townread. I don't have any strong townreads. Just the least scummy of all.

Which resembles a strong townread

Well, let's do this. If 1 is conf!scum and 0 is conf!town, then I have:

JR (0,75) > Eevee (0,7) >> Robz (0,6) > WW (0,55) >  Calamitas (0,5) > Pacovf (0,4) >> SA (0,25) > mcmc (0,2)

The sum must be 3 though
But I see what you are meaning.

That's a scale

[LaLight]

well, I'm off to bed. I hope to wake up to lynched scum.

[SpaceAnemone]

I'm around! Very sorry for the long absence today :-( In theory I'm all caught up with everything, and in practice I don't really know who I most want to lynch. Doing some more targeted re-reads now...

[SpaceAnemone]

No one is interested in Calamitas?

What's your particular case on him, other than derailing the latter parts of D1 and not really doing any reads at all?

[mcmcsalot]

Well, that was the hammer. J Reggie, anything you want to add?

Teamlyle was already voting for jreggie though I intend to hammer

[Witherweaver]

No one is interested in Calamitas?

What's your particular case on him, other than derailing the latter parts of D1 and not really doing any reads at all?

What I said before, basically.. posting a lot without actual scum hunting, trying to be 'helpful' with the teamlyle communication thing.  His vote has also been on an unlikely lynch for quite a while (LaLight); I'm not sure if he's provided much input at all about the two major wagons.

[Witherweaver]

I'm going to be leaving soon and be out most of the night; will be able to check sparingly but probably not post.

[SpaceAnemone]

My issue with the JR wagon is that I feel like he might just be too-scummy-to-be-scum. Though he said somewhere quite recently that he's usually pretty bad as scum, didn't he? Argh.. wasted lots of time trying to find where he said that, but what he said back in M87[/i] was that he was good in his first scum game and fell apart after that. Though now I look back at that game, he was scum there after all. Huh. So this is a meandering distraction, but I feel like linking to a JR scum game isn't a bad thing to do for the benefit of the returning oldies. (I died N1 in that one, so I wasn't following as much as I might have been in the later stages).

If he is town, the votes on his tail should at least be informative, especially with teamlyle on there too just now.

[SpaceAnemone]

My issue with the JR wagon is that I feel like he might just be too-scummy-to-be-scum. Though he said somewhere quite recently that he's usually pretty bad as scum, didn't he? Argh.. wasted lots of time trying to find where he said that, but what he said back in M87 was that he was good in his first scum game and fell apart after that. Though now I look back at that game, he was scum there after all. Huh. So this is a meandering distraction, but I feel like linking to a JR scum game isn't a bad thing to do for the benefit of the returning oldies. (I died N1 in that one, so I wasn't following as much as I might have been in the later stages).

If he is town, the votes on his tail should at least be informative, especially with teamlyle on there too just now.

Sorry for the link fail! Fixed now...

[SpaceAnemone]

@Calamitas, what are your thoughts on the way the Restless Spirit's presence helps/hinders wagon analysis? I'm interested in thoughts in general, but I'd also be interested in your thoughts on these particular wagons we have right now, and on why you're not interested in joining either of them.

[Witherweaver]

Space, what is your preference?

[Calamitas]

@Calamitas, what are your thoughts on the way the Restless Spirit's presence helps/hinders wagon analysis? I'm interested in thoughts in general, but I'd also be interested in your thoughts on these particular wagons we have right now, and on why you're not interested in joining either of them.

I don't think it does influence it very much. It is one vote less that has to be analyzed and I don't think it allows sheeping so it's all fine I think. Where should there be problems?

[Witherweaver]

@Calamitas, what are your thoughts on the way the Restless Spirit's presence helps/hinders wagon analysis? I'm interested in thoughts in general, but I'd also be interested in your thoughts on these particular wagons we have right now, and on why you're not interested in joining either of them.

I don't think it does influence it very much. It is one vote less that has to be analyzed and I don't think it allows sheeping so it's all fine I think. Where should there be problems?

Who do you prefer between Eevee and JReggie?

[Calamitas]

@Calamitas, what are your thoughts on the way the Restless Spirit's presence helps/hinders wagon analysis? I'm interested in thoughts in general, but I'd also be interested in your thoughts on these particular wagons we have right now, and on why you're not interested in joining either of them.

I don't think it does influence it very much. It is one vote less that has to be analyzed and I don't think it allows sheeping so it's all fine I think. Where should there be problems?

Who do you prefer between Eevee and JReggie?

Quite close, slight preference for reggie due to eevee being a potential PR

[Calamitas]

@Calamitas, what are your thoughts on the way the Restless Spirit's presence helps/hinders wagon analysis? I'm interested in thoughts in general, but I'd also be interested in your thoughts on these particular wagons we have right now, and on why you're not interested in joining either of them.

In regard to the latter:
Well, I still think LaLight and teamlyle are significantly better options and joining now would mean hammering. So I will reread before finally deciding on that one.

[SpaceAnemone]

Space, what is your preference?

I'm dithering! I nearly answered this to say that I'll probably go with the JR wagon as the safer choice, but I seem to be arguing myself into an Eevee-voting sort of corner.

Did Eevee give any sort of indication D1 that he might be a PR, like the sort of breadcrumbing that's only actually visible in hindsight? I know scum can do that to set up a fake claim early on, but in this sort of game, where the roles are slightly dependent on each other, I would say that someone claiming a bread-crumbed role would be more believable than someone claiming without having anything to point at.

OTOH, someone who's drawn a town PR in both deals of this game (I'm assuming his question after the first deal was because that's the role he drew) might have been more likely to have come out with that comment early on about how this game has more PRs than M89.

Either way, I'm frustrated that there are almost certainly scum here who are being townread by most of us.