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[Eevee]

#997 I'm voting for him.

Sorry, I misremembered.

[Robz888]

It's objectively smarter to leave Eevee be for tonight. Will explain more when I get home. Do not lynch.

[mcmcsalot]

It's objectively smarter to leave Eevee be for tonight. Will explain more when I get home. Do not lynch.

You make a good point the issue is at this time I'm so so confident of eevees scummines I would rather just lynch scum. Since with jreggie it's a combo of scummines and anti-townness where I'm going to be utterly disappointed but not insanely surprised if jreggie flips town. I also don't want to potentially be killed in the night and have eevee escape suspicion without me there to keep reminding everyone how scummy he is lol.

[Eevee]

Am I really mcmc? I can't write essays, on phone, but just look at J Reggie's whole body of work, please.

[Eevee]

And try to be unbiased about how you are reading my posts. No way they could come from town? Compared to Reggie??

[mcmcsalot]

vote count.LL

LaLight (1): Calamitas
Eevee (3): Witherweaver, J Reggie, mcmcsalot
J Reggie (4): LaLight, Robz888, Eevee, teamlyle

Not voting (2):, SpaceAnemone, pacovf

Also does it look to anyone else like we have a wagon on two members of the scum team bussing eachother, we have two players not voting but participating to allow for more discussion, and one scum player actively trying to avoid the thread/not join either of the wagons on his partners?

[mcmcsalot]

And try to be unbiased about how you are reading my posts. No way they could come from town? Compared to Reggie??

I was harsh in my statement, it's probably just a complement to the fact that with jreggie there is a nag in the back of my head that says maybe he is just really bad at this game or not putting any effort in to his posts and with you I don't believe you would t have better answers to my questions as town. I definitely still want to lynch jreggie as well so I am willing to hear reasons for him before you.

[Eevee]

Wouldn't I be more likely to be better prepared as scum? Scum is able to create perfect narratives, I'm bound by the truth.

[Eevee]

vote count.LL

LaLight (1): Calamitas
Eevee (3): Witherweaver, J Reggie, mcmcsalot
J Reggie (4): LaLight, Robz888, Eevee, teamlyle

Not voting (2):, SpaceAnemone, pacovf

Also does it look to anyone else like we have a wagon on two members of the scum team bussing eachother, we have two players not voting but participating to allow for more discussion, and one scum player actively trying to avoid the thread/not join either of the wagons on his partners?

you are either scum going bold, or really overly optimistic/bold town. you know how hard it is to run up one scum wagon? you really think it's likely we are both scum? i do think reggie has a good chance of being scum, fwiw.

isn't how i already almost got lynch almost on accident a big point towards me being town?

[Eevee]

Did Reggie ever really even post anything to make the tide turn away from him? Just one vote to lynch him still!

[Eevee]

Please people reread me and J Reggie and don't just take mcmc's word for it! Maybe hopefully you'll see things differently.

[mcmcsalot]

isn't how i already almost got lynch almost on accident a big point towards me being town?

"Doesn't X make me look town"

Did Reggie ever really even post anything to make the tide turn away from him? Just one vote to lynch him still!

"isn't Y still scummy"

Again these comments are weirdly broad and making pleas to other people to build your points for you, not actually giving a reason you are towny for that or jreggie is scummy.

Also I can go ahead and answer, you were almost accidentally lynched because people found you scummy and were voting you, multiple people didn't realize how close you were to lynch. Then what happens is people unvote, and during the fallout a great case on jreggie was made. This doesn't give you town points it means enough people still think you are scummy to lynch, enough people also think jreggie is scummy enough to lynch, and we are all happy taking as long as we need to discuss if those are indeed good options.

[J Reggie]

vote count.LL

LaLight (1): Calamitas
Eevee (3): Witherweaver, J Reggie, mcmcsalot
J Reggie (4): LaLight, Robz888, Eevee, teamlyle

Not voting (2):, SpaceAnemone, pacovf

Also does it look to anyone else like we have a wagon on two members of the scum team bussing eachother, we have two players not voting but participating to allow for more discussion, and one scum player actively trying to avoid the thread/not join either of the wagons on his partners?

you are either scum going bold, or really overly optimistic/bold town. you know how hard it is to run up one scum wagon? you really think it's likely we are both scum? i do think reggie has a good chance of being scum, fwiw.

isn't how i already almost got lynch almost on accident a big point towards me being town?

This is super scummy. Also, not lynching Eevee because of the claim is just bad. Scum isn't going to want to kill him if he's town. Tracker is also really easy to fake claim.

[pacovf]

and during the fallout a great case on jreggie was made.

Wait, when did this happen?

[pacovf]

I still prefer an Eevee lynch, despite the claim, but I would also lynch J Reggie if that's what it comes down to.

[mcmcsalot]

and during the fallout a great case on jreggie was made.

Wait, when did this happen?

Oh my gosh, no I had forgotten it was for the super scummy hammer of silverspawn, not the vote for eevee that could have been the hammer.

unvote I have to reread more but I might be back to j reggie as the best choice

[LaLight]

Imo, mcmc tries to input some confusion in the game. He quite rules it in my opinion and doind hedgy stuff. Need to think when i wake up

[pacovf]

I do agree that these last few posts are scummy, but I don't want to shift my opinions too quickly, makes it easy for scum to manipulate me.

[Eevee]

Imo, mcmc tries to input some confusion in the game. He quite rules it in my opinion and doind hedgy stuff. Need to think when i wake up

Yeah, I'm getting the feeling he is inserting his opinion as the will of the people now.

[Eevee]

Many many people yet to comment after my claim still. Hoping people get on tonight still! I'll be on for ~3 hours still.

[Robz888]

Imo, mcmc tries to input some confusion in the game. He quite rules it in my opinion and doind hedgy stuff. Need to think when i wake up

Yeah, I'm getting the feeling he is inserting his opinion as the will of the people now.

Mcmc IS doing this but it's very townie IMO.

[Robz888]

So, we shouldn't lynch Eevee now, and this should be obvious, unless we are overwhelming certain he is scum. I still haven't re-read him but I'm just not picking up on all these signs other people are seeing him.

But anyway, we should give Eevee another night, even if we just straight up lynch him tomorrow without another word. There's at least a chance he's telling the truth about being a Tracker and it's too dangerous for scum to keep him alive and they solve our dilemma for us, or he gets some kind of night result that helps us, or can be confirmed, or is caught in some other manner, or his claim is rendered impossible because of the setup, or any number of other scenarios where leaving him alive was better. Particularly because J Reggie is just so super duper scummy and at least a good, or actually much better in my opinion, choice for lynch.

In the previous game, town made the decision to generally leave some claimed town PRs alive, even though their claims were scummy, and that was unquestionably the right move (it irritated me, as scum, that they were doing it).

[schadd]

Vote Count 2.6

LaLight (1): Calamitas
Eevee (2): Witherweaver, J Reggie
J Reggie (4): LaLight, Robz888, Eevee, teamlyle

Not voting (3): mcmcsalot, SpaceAnemone, pacovf

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 2 ends December 29, 10pm forum time, in 26 and a half hours.

[pacovf]

So, we shouldn't lynch Eevee now, and this should be obvious, unless we are overwhelming certain he is scum. I still haven't re-read him but I'm just not picking up on all these signs other people are seeing him.

But anyway, we should give Eevee another night, even if we just straight up lynch him tomorrow without another word. There's at least a chance he's telling the truth about being a Tracker and it's too dangerous for scum to keep him alive and they solve our dilemma for us, or he gets some kind of night result that helps us, or can be confirmed, or is caught in some other manner, or his claim is rendered impossible because of the setup, or any number of other scenarios where leaving him alive was better. Particularly because J Reggie is just so super duper scummy and at least a good, or actually much better in my opinion, choice for lynch.

In the previous game, town made the decision to generally leave some claimed town PRs alive, even though their claims were scummy, and that was unquestionably the right move (it irritated me, as scum, that they were doing it).

Well, game becomes significatively easier for town after the first scum has been lynched, so there is a big cost to not lynching a scummy claim.

Also, scum has a roleblocker, so Eevee's PR (assuming he is actually town) is completely useless. In fact, scum don't have to kill him at all, they can just keep roleblocking him until we lynch him.

Not to mention that Eevee's flip will be a lot more informative than J Reggie's.

[Robz888]

So, we shouldn't lynch Eevee now, and this should be obvious, unless we are overwhelming certain he is scum. I still haven't re-read him but I'm just not picking up on all these signs other people are seeing him.

But anyway, we should give Eevee another night, even if we just straight up lynch him tomorrow without another word. There's at least a chance he's telling the truth about being a Tracker and it's too dangerous for scum to keep him alive and they solve our dilemma for us, or he gets some kind of night result that helps us, or can be confirmed, or is caught in some other manner, or his claim is rendered impossible because of the setup, or any number of other scenarios where leaving him alive was better. Particularly because J Reggie is just so super duper scummy and at least a good, or actually much better in my opinion, choice for lynch.

In the previous game, town made the decision to generally leave some claimed town PRs alive, even though their claims were scummy, and that was unquestionably the right move (it irritated me, as scum, that they were doing it).

Well, game becomes significatively easier for town after the first scum has been lynched, so there is a big cost to not lynching a scummy claim.

Also, scum has a roleblocker, so Eevee's PR (assuming he is actually town) is completely useless. In fact, scum don't have to kill him at all, they can just keep roleblocking him until we lynch him.

Not to mention that Eevee's flip will be a lot more informative than J Reggie's.

If they're roleblocking Eevee, they're not roleblocking someone else.

The scum roleblocker could be blocked, jailed, watched, or tracked by town.