Topic: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (Game Over! Mafia win!) (Read 193073 times)

faust · « **Reply #1325 on:** July 31, 2016, 02:46:47 pm »

Sorry for spamming the thread so much.

From play alone, I think J Reggie looks scummier than Haddock (didn't reread J Reggie, but I remember that he looked pretty darn scummy mid-D2). And it's true - the claim is convenient. Meh. I'm conflicted.

faust · « **Reply #1326 on:** July 31, 2016, 02:50:34 pm »

J Reggie, why did you decide to claim before Haddock claimed in the neighborhood?

iguanaiguana · « **Reply #1327 on:** July 31, 2016, 02:53:52 pm »

Quote from: faust on July 31, 2016, 02:19:10 pm

iguana, I wanted to ask: Why do you choose to claim now?

I haven't been able to keep up with high activity sections of the game that happen while I'm away or busy. I skimmed the thread and saw that yesterday I was at L-1 and nearly lynched due to inactivity, so I made a mental note to claim some information about my role as it was basically the only thing I could think of as evidence for the fact that I am town.

Also, my role is totally boring and lame so I had nothing to lose.

J Reggie · « **Reply #1328 on:** July 31, 2016, 02:54:09 pm »

I mean, I almost didn't believe it when I saw it. Haddock is confirmed scum now. I mean, it's possible that EFHW made all those kills and targeted Faust, but I don't believe it, especially since cron (I think) said chairs didn't target anyone N1. It's too bad, since I thought haddock was town and maybe revealed some stuff in the neighborhood that I shouldn't have. But yeah, all I can say is all 3 NKs were targeted by members of my neighborhood, and with what I know, haddock is the only one that makes sense.

iguanaiguana · « **Reply #1329 on:** July 31, 2016, 02:54:48 pm »

I'm cool with voting Haddock.

J Reggie · « **Reply #1330 on:** July 31, 2016, 02:55:18 pm »

Quote from: faust on July 31, 2016, 02:50:34 pm

J Reggie, why did you decide to claim before Haddock claimed in the neighborhood?

Because haddock was refusing to claim in my neighborhood. I didn't want to give him time for a fake claim.

silverspawn · « **Reply #1331 on:** July 31, 2016, 02:55:50 pm »

Quote from: Haddock on July 31, 2016, 02:45:50 pm

Me lyle EFHW reggie

So

Haddock, teamlyle, EFHW, JReggie

are supposed to have targeted

RR (died N1)
cron (died N2)
Seprix (died N2)
faust

This means a group of 4 covered all three NK's.

That seems sufficiently improbable to warrant a vote for J Reggie regardless of reads, I think

iguanaiguana · « **Reply #1332 on:** July 31, 2016, 02:57:52 pm »

Quote from: silverspawn on July 31, 2016, 02:55:50 pm

Quote from: Haddock on July 31, 2016, 02:45:50 pm
Me lyle EFHW reggie

So

Haddock, teamlyle, EFHW, JReggie

are supposed to have targeted

RR (died N1)
cron (died N2)
Seprix (died N2)
faust

This means a group of 4 covered all three NK's.

That seems sufficiently improbable to warrant a vote for J Reggie regardless of reads, I think

That makes sense too.

silverspawn · « **Reply #1333 on:** July 31, 2016, 02:57:56 pm »

^disregard my final line, I need to think more.

iguanaiguana · « **Reply #1334 on:** July 31, 2016, 02:59:08 pm »

From my perspective, the scummiest thing that happened in the game is the wagon on me. Since it was a super easy mislynch because I haven't been able to play hard or well this game, that means scum were basically 100% on that wagon.

I'm going to go take another look at it, I have no clue who was on it.

faust · « **Reply #1335 on:** July 31, 2016, 02:59:20 pm »

Quote from: J Reggie on July 31, 2016, 02:55:18 pm

Quote from: faust on July 31, 2016, 02:50:34 pm
J Reggie, why did you decide to claim before Haddock claimed in the neighborhood?

Because haddock was refusing to claim in my neighborhood. I didn't want to give him time for a fake claim.

Can other members of the neighborhood confirm this narrative?

I don't see how "giving him time for a fake claim" would have been a problem. He still wouldn't have known who he should claim to have targeted. It is only now that he has all the information and could theoretically make up a fitting fakeclaim. Your explanation, in other words, makes no sense.

And of course it is kind of convenient that you waited for the two other neighborhood members to claim and claimed as soon as you knew who they supposedly targeted.

iguanaiguana · « **Reply #1336 on:** July 31, 2016, 02:59:32 pm »

Quote from: silverspawn on July 31, 2016, 02:57:56 pm

^disregard my final line, I need to think more.

That makes sense too!

faust · « **Reply #1337 on:** July 31, 2016, 03:01:25 pm »

Quote from: iguanaiguana on July 31, 2016, 02:59:08 pm

From my perspective, the scummiest thing that happened in the game is the wagon on me. Since it was a super easy mislynch because I haven't been able to play hard or well this game, that means scum were basically 100% on that wagon.

I'm going to go take another look at it, I have no clue who was on it.

The other lynch options were me and fontisian. Fontisian flipped town, and well I am town. Unless you think that I am scum, this makes no sense. And if you think that I am scum, well go ahead and vote for me.

faust · « **Reply #1338 on:** July 31, 2016, 03:02:24 pm »

There might uh be something that I can do to clear this thing up, but it would mean that we have to keep J Reggie and Haddock alive until tomorrow.

iguanaiguana · « **Reply #1339 on:** July 31, 2016, 03:03:05 pm »

Quote from: Haddock on July 28, 2016, 07:18:13 pm

No? Ok vote: iguana it is then.
L-1 again.

I have to sleep now. Fingers crossed!

Vote: Haddock

faust · « **Reply #1340 on:** July 31, 2016, 03:03:24 pm »

And right now I'm quite comfortable with a J Reggie lynch, so not sure it's worth it.

faust · « **Reply #1341 on:** July 31, 2016, 03:03:54 pm »

Quote from: iguanaiguana on July 31, 2016, 03:03:05 pm

Quote from: Haddock on July 28, 2016, 07:18:13 pm
No? Ok vote: iguana it is then.
L-1 again.

I have to sleep now. Fingers crossed!

Vote: Haddock

Again, only makes sense if you think I am scum.

iguanaiguana · « **Reply #1342 on:** July 31, 2016, 03:04:18 pm »

iguanaiguana · « **Reply #1343 on:** July 31, 2016, 03:05:00 pm »

You could have been town on my wagon. But yeah, I think you might be scum. I super think so.

Or maybe I should say "No, Faust, he's the great leader, an IC" so scum will kill you and I don't have to do this WIFOM BS.

silverspawn · « **Reply #1344 on:** July 31, 2016, 03:05:36 pm »

*sigh* I really need to stop this habit of posting the first thing that comes to mind.

the probability is bongus because J Reggie isn't claiming that they were randomly in there. If mafia is in that group then that explains the clustering of targets.

J Reggie's claim fits and is consistent with the other claims. Unfortunately, the other claims were made before J Reggie claimed his stuff, so we can't give him credit for that. I think it would have been better to claim your results first, and then ask the others to confirm them.

Meh, maybe we do need reads.

I don't find the idea that one scum does all the kills to be a stretch at all. Could just be ninja or something.

Haddock · « **Reply #1345 on:** July 31, 2016, 03:05:57 pm »

Quote from: J Reggie on July 31, 2016, 02:55:18 pm

Quote from: faust on July 31, 2016, 02:50:34 pm
J Reggie, why did you decide to claim before Haddock claimed in the neighborhood?

Because haddock was refusing to claim in my neighborhood. I didn't want to give him time for a fake claim.

Lyle and EFHW will confirm this is entirely false. I was refusing to claim here. I was open to claiming in the QT subject to me being happy about EFHW. I was admittedly stalling slightly because I needed to think whether I was happy claiming in the presence of EFHW.

Quote from: iguanaiguana on July 31, 2016, 03:03:05 pm

Quote from: Haddock on July 28, 2016, 07:18:13 pm
No? Ok vote: iguana it is then.
L-1 again.

I have to sleep now. Fingers crossed!

Vote: Haddock

Wait so I tried to make a Cellovix wagon happen instead and my giving up on that idea and going back to you makes me scummy? I was trying to make a lynch happen, so sue me.

faust · « **Reply #1346 on:** July 31, 2016, 03:08:27 pm »

Quote from: silverspawn on July 31, 2016, 03:05:36 pm

I don't find the idea that one scum does all the kills to be a stretch at all. Could just be ninja or something.

But two kills in one night? Eh. It only works for me if you allow that EFHW is the SK or something, and then why didn't she target anyone N1?

And if Haddock was Ninja, then J Reggie would not have seen the kills. That's like the whole point of being Ninja.

faust · « **Reply #1347 on:** July 31, 2016, 03:09:20 pm »

And remember we have one Tracker flipped already. This would imply two Trackers, which seems like overkill.

faust · « **Reply #1348 on:** July 31, 2016, 03:11:25 pm »

Quote from: iguanaiguana on July 31, 2016, 03:04:18 pm

Why?

In a choice between twon!me and town!you, scum might prefer me. And if not, it's still mostly a wash where scum doesn't really care and their main focus is to avoid incriminating wagon positions.

Haddock · « **Reply #1349 on:** July 31, 2016, 03:14:13 pm »

Quote from: faust on July 31, 2016, 03:09:20 pm

And remember we have one Tracker flipped already. This would imply two Trackers, which seems like overkill.

More accurately, a tracker a one shot super tracker and a Rolecop.

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