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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1300 on: July 31, 2016, 12:57:11 pm »

Welp, you two are mega scummy, defending each other to the teeth the past two days in a very "We both know the other is town, so we must be town" way. It's super duper suspicious and awful. Your 180 "J Reggie could actually be scum today" flip today also looks really fake, like you are hedging your bets in case we lynch Reggie. Aren't you supposed to hedge less as the game goes on when you're town? Plus, the main person who suspected you both, Cron, is dead today.

OTOH, Faust is still alive on Day 3.

That's pretty much my reasoning.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1301 on: July 31, 2016, 01:16:33 pm »

Hey everyone.  I've been generally following along, going to reread now in light of the recent flips.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1302 on: July 31, 2016, 01:26:40 pm »

Welp, you two are mega scummy, defending each other to the teeth the past two days in a very "We both know the other is town, so we must be town" way. It's super duper suspicious and awful. Your 180 "J Reggie could actually be scum today" flip today also looks really fake, like you are hedging your bets in case we lynch Reggie. Aren't you supposed to hedge less as the game goes on when you're town? Plus, the main person who suspected you both, Cron, is dead today.

OTOH, Faust is still alive on Day 3.

That's pretty much my reasoning.
Cron was townreading me strongly yesterday. Why would scum!me want him dead?

Your main point is nonsense.  Reggie remains my strongest townread. I've made that totally clear.  And you have to agree that the Haitian being town means we can't rely on flavour any more.

Can't disagree with you about faust.
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M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1303 on: July 31, 2016, 01:30:18 pm »

Hey everyone.  I've been generally following along, going to reread now in light of the recent flips.

you have my deep condolences. I recently came to learn that replacing is hell. The best of luck.

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1304 on: July 31, 2016, 01:45:48 pm »

Ok, I really need to claim. My one-shot ability was to learn who everyone in my neighborhood targeted since the beginning of the game. I don't know who targeted whom, just a list of people that have been targeted by the people in my neighborhood. One of those is Faust, whom ehfw has claimed to have targeted.

The other three are RR, cron, and Seprix. This leads me to believe that someone in my neighborhood is scum, and I think that someone is Haddock.

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1305 on: July 31, 2016, 02:01:52 pm »

Ok, I really need to claim. My one-shot ability was to learn who everyone in my neighborhood targeted since the beginning of the game. I don't know who targeted whom, just a list of people that have been targeted by the people in my neighborhood. One of those is Faust, whom ehfw has claimed to have targeted.

The other three are RR, cron, and Seprix. This leads me to believe that someone in my neighborhood is scum, and I think that someone is Haddock.

vote: haddock.

Nice. I think I trust this. Vote: Haddock
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1306 on: July 31, 2016, 02:03:02 pm »

L-2.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1307 on: July 31, 2016, 02:03:34 pm »

Which isn't too great on the offchance that there still are three scum.

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1308 on: July 31, 2016, 02:04:17 pm »

Ok, I really need to claim. My one-shot ability was to learn who everyone in my neighborhood targeted since the beginning of the game. I don't know who targeted whom, just a list of people that have been targeted by the people in my neighborhood. One of those is Faust, whom ehfw has claimed to have targeted.

The other three are RR, cron, and Seprix. This leads me to believe that someone in my neighborhood is scum, and I think that someone is Haddock.

vote: haddock.

Does Haddock's claim in the neighborhood line up with your results?
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1309 on: July 31, 2016, 02:05:55 pm »

OTOH, Faust is still alive on Day 3.

For what it's worth, I was vanillaised last night, so maybe not the best target.

But I'm better now. So bring it on, scum!
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1310 on: July 31, 2016, 02:11:08 pm »

Oh.. did someone else join the neighborhood last night? Was said person part of the investigation?
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1311 on: July 31, 2016, 02:19:10 pm »

iguana, I wanted to ask: Why do you choose to claim now?
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1312 on: July 31, 2016, 02:19:56 pm »

Ok, I really need to claim. My one-shot ability was to learn who everyone in my neighborhood targeted since the beginning of the game. I don't know who targeted whom, just a list of people that have been targeted by the people in my neighborhood. One of those is Faust, whom ehfw has claimed to have targeted.

The other three are RR, cron, and Seprix. This leads me to believe that someone in my neighborhood is scum, and I think that someone is Haddock.

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This is a total fabrication.  I don't know why scum would think this is a good idea, but apparently they think a 1 for 1 is worth it at this point.  Everyone note that please - if scum think a 1 for 1 is worth it at this point, that suggests that they're in a really strong position - maybe they think they can win tonight.

Jeez my reads have been absolutely awful this game.  First my strongest scumread flips town and now my strongest townread does this?  So much for that townread.  Thank god I didn't yet get round to claiming in the neighbourhood.  Jeepers.

Can everyone please look at this claim of Reggie's and note how convenient it is?  I mean, come on, he claims an investigatory role that happens to explain every NK at once?  I can just picture the scum QT - "Reggie, claim an incriminatory result on someone.  Maybe Haddock".
Then new-to-RMM-scum!Reggie takes that a bit too much to heart and goes way overboard.
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M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1313 on: July 31, 2016, 02:22:12 pm »

So, Haddock - did you target a player not in J Reggie's list, or how do you know he's not telling the truth?
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1314 on: July 31, 2016, 02:23:20 pm »

Really this response mostly seals it for me... town!Haddock would at least consider the possibility that J Reggie is town.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1315 on: July 31, 2016, 02:25:14 pm »

So, Haddock - did you target a player not in J Reggie's list, or how do you know he's not telling the truth?
I do not have a targetting role. Nor does lyle. 
So yeah I considered redirection possibilities but that consideration did not take long. 

I mean seriously. Somehow EFHW targetted 4 people? Not seeing it.  This is all totally bogus.
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M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1316 on: July 31, 2016, 02:25:46 pm »

Wait - EFHW has claimed to have targeted me? But N1, according to Cron, EFHW did not target anyone, right? Hum dum. Not sure what it means. Of course there are even-night and X-shot possibilities. Did EFHW claim to have targeted me N2?
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1317 on: July 31, 2016, 02:27:46 pm »

I beg everyone to see sense.  Why would scum have one player make all of their kills? They'd spread them around to avoid this very situation.  This is all way too convenient from reggie.
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1318 on: July 31, 2016, 02:28:40 pm »

It's true that J Reggie had to come up with some sort of claim today after how the last day went down. And he was forced into the claim on D2 because he was scummy. Maybe this is not so easy.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1319 on: July 31, 2016, 02:30:06 pm »

I beg everyone to see sense.  Why would scum have one player make all of their kills? They'd spread them around to avoid this very situation.  This is all way too convenient from reggie.

But that's bullshit... why should scum anticipate a situation like this? You give the night kill to the person you think is the least likely to be investigated that night. That may very well happen to be the same player twice in a row.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1320 on: July 31, 2016, 02:35:54 pm »

Meh. I guess so. OK everyone just see sense and recognise that I'm town then!

One thing's for sure as far as I'm concerned.  Much as it pains me to say this about the person I've been townreading all game, the lynch definitely has to be either reggie or me today.

Reggie please.
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1321 on: July 31, 2016, 02:42:19 pm »

Targeted Haddock reread!

There's lots of VLA D1, so that makes the reread easier, but also less insightful. He has a scumread on Jan early on. But he points out an early post by Jan, calling it a "rare towny moment". The way he reads Jan seems quite genuine so far. Votes Jan over RR before RR fullclaims.

On D2, the most notable thing is the clash with Cron. Again, doesn't look too bad. Notably, he tries to get a Cellovix or iguana lynch in at the end of D2. That is towny to me because well, he doesn't go for the two conf!town options.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1322 on: July 31, 2016, 02:43:21 pm »

Just now did I realize that J Reggie supposedly saw both of tonight's kills.

That would be... a pretty big coincidence.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1323 on: July 31, 2016, 02:44:36 pm »

who exactly is in the neighborhood?

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1324 on: July 31, 2016, 02:45:50 pm »

Me lyle EFHW reggie
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87
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