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[Awaclus]

But there is still:

{Witherweaver, Ashersky, Awaclus, Haddock,e}

Okay, I can go ahead and tell you that I have no rubbish.  Still, four people, potential scum.

I have posted after the plan was approved by general consensus.

[ashersky]

I have no rubbing to claim.

[2.71828.....]

I don't have a useless role to report.

[Haddock]

I also don't have a rubbish role to report.

Someone said it was WW who tried to turn this into a mass claim.  But wasn't it e who first did that?

[iguanaiguana]

Cool, now what?

I think e looks scummy this game. But whenever I'm town I scumread him..................

YOLO Vote: e

[Joseph2302]

I also don't have a rubbish role to report.

Someone said it was WW who tried to turn this into a mass claim.  But wasn't it e who first did that?

Yes it was I believe.
Vote: e seems okay for now.

[Haddock]

That's L-2, right? Small games are weird.  I was thinking of voting e but having an L-1 this early might not be the best thing.

We are firmly out of rvs I guess though, so unvote

[silverspawn]

vote: Joseph

[silverspawn]

Joseph and igu are the top 2 scummiest players atm

[iguanaiguana]

Joseph and igu are the top 2 scummiest players atm

Joseph comes off towny from the VT thing. It was totes unfortunate, but not scummy.

[iguanaiguana]

Also, it gives me legitimate pleasure to hear you call me scummy when I am in fact town.

[silverspawn]

Also, it gives me legitimate pleasure to hear you call me scummy when I am in fact town.

If that gives you pleasure, then I dare say you might be doing something wrong.

I'm not sure if this hyper empathize on insisting you're town makes you towny or scummy, but I'm leaning toward scummy.

[iguanaiguana]

Eh, it's really easy for someone to do it as either alignment. In my last scum game, I did not say I was town at all because I didn't want to. Probably in my next scum game I will because I said it so much here and I will need to replicate that.

[silverspawn]

Eh, it's really easy for someone to do it as either alignment. In my last scum game, I did not say I was town at all because I didn't want to. Probably in my next scum game I will because I said it so much here and I will need to replicate that.

oh, now you're downplaying it? that's not good. vote: igu

[silverspawn]

Then again, maybe scum is less likely to back off earlier.

what do other people think? and don't tell me it's null.

[iguanaiguana]

Downplaying the fact that I'm town and loud about it? Hell no, I have no idea what you're talking about.

[2.71828.....]

This Crown Royal Regal Apple stuff is dangerous.  Especially when mixed with a bit of Cranberry juice. 

Speaking of which, I would totally vote iguana except for that pesky claim.

[2.71828.....]

I am also warming up to a vote: joseph

[Witherweaver]

I think Iguana is town.

I think e is a good vote.

[2.71828.....]

actually, vote: Haddock

He has consistently brought up the idea that I pushed for a mass claim (deviating from Ash's Plan) and I think that is a scummy misreading of the thread.  Here is what actually happened:

#96: WW says "Heck, let's just do a good old-fashioned full massclaim."
#97&98: Iguana starts out not liking a full massclaim (as proposed by WW) then he does kind of like it.
#101: I state: "So. The plan is a mass claim."  But I follow it up by saying this is not a good idea and that we should just claim modifiers (similar to what iguana had already done)

Reply #101 is the only time I said the words "mass claim" and I even added an addendum saying that we should not do that.  Yet twice Haddock has implicated me as being the sole culprit of instigating a massclaim. First, he states that this was "just e's notion" as if it is something I have fully endorsed and argued that we should be doing.  Then he goes on to defend WW as innocent in all matters concerning massclaiming but that I was the one who first brought it up and offered it as the Plan.  He even pulls Joseph along with him into that line of thought.  Who knows, that may even be why Iguana is voting for me!

All I can say is that people need to read better.  Ashersky got it right when he said that WW was the one trying to turn it into a massclaim.  I am not innocent in the matter (I did misrepresent Ashersky's plan using the word "massclaim" in my post), but I never advocated a massclaim or said that it is something we should do. 

[2.71828.....]

I could go with Haddock or Joseph right now.  I will stay on Haddock at this time

[Joseph2302]

Joseph and igu are the top 2 scummiest players atm

Joseph comes off towny from the VT thing. It was totes unfortunate, but not scummy.

It's a very me thing to do as well.
Not looking carefully enough, and screwing something up is my standard way of playing.

[Joseph2302]

I could go with Haddock or Joseph right now.  I will stay on Haddock at this time

I guess I can do a Haddock vote,  Vote: Haddock.

[iguanaiguana]

e, you explained the Haddock vote, but what makes Joseph scummy?

[Haddock]

actually, vote: Haddock

He has consistently brought up the idea that I pushed for a mass claim (deviating from Ash's Plan) and I think that is a scummy misreading of the thread.  Here is what actually happened:

#96: WW says "Heck, let's just do a good old-fashioned full massclaim."
#97&98: Iguana starts out not liking a full massclaim (as proposed by WW) then he does kind of like it.
#101: I state: "So. The plan is a mass claim."  But I follow it up by saying this is not a good idea and that we should just claim modifiers (similar to what iguana had already done)

Reply #101 is the only time I said the words "mass claim" and I even added an addendum saying that we should not do that.  Yet twice Haddock has implicated me as being the sole culprit of instigating a massclaim. First, he states that this was "just e's notion" as if it is something I have fully endorsed and argued that we should be doing.  Then he goes on to defend WW as innocent in all matters concerning massclaiming but that I was the one who first brought it up and offered it as the Plan.  He even pulls Joseph along with him into that line of thought.  Who knows, that may even be why Iguana is voting for me!

All I can say is that people need to read better.  Ashersky got it right when he said that WW was the one trying to turn it into a massclaim.  I am not innocent in the matter (I did misrepresent Ashersky's plan using the word "massclaim" in my post), but I never advocated a massclaim or said that it is something we should do.

I think most of this might be based on a misunderstanding.  This long post of yours prompted me to have another look at your original post here:

So. The plan is a mass claim.

Although iguana simply claimed his modifier. I could see a mad modifier claim being useful, but claiming the actual role can wait until d2? That seems better to me

Looking at it now, I see that the word "mad" is probably a typo supposed to be "bad".  With that correction it's clear that you're backing ash's plan but not a massclaim.

When I read it, I saw "mad" as it actually was and thought you were saying that everyone should claim except people with a "mad" modifier.  I wasn't sure what you meant by that, except perhaps mad was shorthand for insane?  Anyway, taken that way it was a pretty weird idea - and your next few posts were weird too, so it all just looked totally bizarre.


So yeah - I guess I retract my insinuation that you were pushing for a massclaim, but I hope that explains why I thought it in the first place.

I still think your next few posts, namely:

Which means the foolproof way to catch iguana add scum is for me to buddy him. Yeah. I believe his claim. Which means he is town

and

Preliminary town -> scum
e
Iguana
silverspawn
Haddock
Ashersky
WW
Joseph
Awaclus
Hydrad

Again, very preliminary. Much more secure with my read on the top 1 or so on this list than the bottom 8

were pretty scummy though, so while you're less scummy than I thought, I'd still say you're still a bit scummy.