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[ashersky]

I mean, fuck dude, you accuse me of not answering a question, making me seem scummy for it, and yet I had already on the same very page.

This is what I mean by you just having to do whatever you have to as scum to survive.  I am trying my best to not take it personally, since it has to be based on your alignment.

[faust]

Ask whatever question it is you want me to have asked Arch.

I have to remind myself that I'm not doing this for you, but for the other players involved.

You can ask questions about your role.
Everyone can ask questions about the setup.
I cannot ask questions about your role.

A question that has to do with your role and the setup can only be posed by you. But then it will be answered.

[ashersky]

I've modded scum Faust before, and you've always had a hard "stab a puppy with a fork if it me a I can win" attitude, but you've really taken it to the next level.

[faust]

I mean, fuck dude, you accuse me of not answering a question, making me seem scummy for it, and yet I had already on the same very page.

This is what I mean by you just having to do whatever you have to as scum to survive.  I am trying my best to not take it personally, since it has to be based on your alignment.

This is plain ridiculous. Why would I even do that as scum? It's plain obvious that the answer got lost in PPEs and stuff.

[faust]

I've modded scum Faust before, and you've always had a hard "stab a puppy with a fork if it me a I can win" attitude, but you've really taken it to the next level.
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Civility, man.

[ashersky]

Ask whatever question it is you want me to have asked Arch.

I have to remind myself that I'm not doing this for you, but for the other players involved.

You can ask questions about your role.
Everyone can ask questions about the setup.
I cannot ask questions about your role.

A question that has to do with your role and the setup can only be posed by you. But then it will be answered.

Let's see, then.

Arch, if I target Faust with my role and he performs the factional kill in addition to any other role actions he may have, can I see Faust perform the factional kill as one of my results?

[ashersky]

I've modded scum Faust before, and you've always had a hard "stab a puppy with a fork if it me a I can win" attitude, but you've really taken it to the next level.
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Civility, man.

I just complimented your scum play.  How's that uncivil?

[faust]

You win with a mislynch, though, right?

If you get the mislynch (me), you win, according to you.
If you fail and Joseph is lynched, you still have you left to force my mislynch.
If you fail and you are lynched, that's probably game over.

2/3 chance of winning isn't throwing the game, in my estimation.

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I hope I'm calm enough now.

If Joseph is lying scum, then scum DOES NOT win with a mislynch. For god's sake.

[ashersky]

I've modded scum Faust before, and you've always had a hard "stab a puppy with a fork if it me a I can win" attitude, but you've really taken it to the next level.

Civility, man.

I just complimented your scum play.  How's that uncivil?

[faust]

Arch, if I target Faust with my role and he performs the factional kill in addition to any other role actions he may have, can I see Faust perform the factional kill as one of my results?

And of course, such questions can only be posed via PM. Stop derailing the game by puposefully misinterpreting everything I say. Or maybe don't, because everyone an see that you're scrambling scum now. I guess that's a good thing.

[ashersky]

You win with a mislynch, though, right?

If you get the mislynch (me), you win, according to you.
If you fail and Joseph is lynched, you still have you left to force my mislynch.
If you fail and you are lynched, that's probably game over.

2/3 chance of winning isn't throwing the game, in my estimation.

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I hope I'm calm enough now.

If Joseph is lying scum, then scum DOES NOT win with a mislynch. For god's sake.

What if you are lying scum, Joseph is misplayed town, then do you win with a mislynch?

(You can sub my name for yours in that line, and it still works, right?)

[ashersky]

Arch, if I target Faust with my role and he performs the factional kill in addition to any other role actions he may have, can I see Faust perform the factional kill as one of my results?

And of course, such questions can only be posed via PM. Stop derailing the game by puposefully misinterpreting everything I say. Or maybe don't, because everyone an see that you're scrambling scum now. I guess that's a good thing.

You just made a point about WW asking in thread.

And if I said I asked by PM, you would just say I lied, right?

[faust]

Arch, if I target Faust with my role and he performs the factional kill in addition to any other role actions he may have, can I see Faust perform the factional kill as one of my results?

And of course, such questions can only be posed via PM. Stop derailing the game by puposefully misinterpreting everything I say. Or maybe don't, because everyone an see that you're scrambling scum now. I guess that's a good thing.

You just made a point about WW asking in thread.

And if I said I asked by PM, you would just say I lied, right?

WW's question obviously didn't involve his own role. You're a mod, you know confirming people's roles in thread is a no go. What is this even about?

To the second question: Yes.

[ashersky]

Arch, if I target Faust with my role and he performs the factional kill in addition to any other role actions he may have, can I see Faust perform the factional kill as one of my results?

And of course, such questions can only be posed via PM. Stop derailing the game by puposefully misinterpreting everything I say. Or maybe don't, because everyone an see that you're scrambling scum now. I guess that's a good thing.

You just made a point about WW asking in thread.

And if I said I asked by PM, you would just say I lied, right?

WW's question obviously didn't involve his own role. You're a mod, you know confirming people's roles in thread is a no go. What is this even about?

To the second question: Yes.

Actually, if WW is scum, it did involve his own role.

Does that make WW scum or an IC?

[faust]

I've modded scum Faust before, and you've always had a hard "stab a puppy with a fork if it me a I can win" attitude, but you've really taken it to the next level.

Civility, man.

I just complimented your scum play.  How's that uncivil?

If I say you're willing to replace out to win, that's rude. If you say I'm willing to stab a puppy with a fork to win, that's a compliment.

[faust]

If I am scum, can I Attack myself?  Can I Attack my QT-partner?

This question, starting wth an "if"-clause, does not involve WW's role, or alignment.

[ashersky]

I've modded scum Faust before, and you've always had a hard "stab a puppy with a fork if it me a I can win" attitude, but you've really taken it to the next level.

Civility, man.

I just complimented your scum play.  How's that uncivil?

If I say you're willing to replace out to win, that's rude. If you say I'm willing to stab a puppy with a fork to win, that's a compliment.

I clearly don't think you'd stab an actual puppy.  It was a metaphor for how cutthroat you are.  Sorry if you thought I meant it literally.

[faust]

What if you are lying scum, Joseph is misplayed town, then do you win with a mislynch?

(You can sub my name for yours in that line, and it still works, right?)

Err, yes. But if you believe that, why do you vote for Joseph?

[ashersky]

If I am scum, can I Attack myself?  Can I Attack my QT-partner?

This question, starting wth an "if"-clause, does not involve WW's role, or alignment.

The second question has no "if" if you want to be pedantic.

[faust]

I've modded scum Faust before, and you've always had a hard "stab a puppy with a fork if it me a I can win" attitude, but you've really taken it to the next level.

Civility, man.

I just complimented your scum play.  How's that uncivil?

If I say you're willing to replace out to win, that's rude. If you say I'm willing to stab a puppy with a fork to win, that's a compliment.

I clearly don't think you'd stab an actual puppy.  It was a metaphor for how cutthroat you are.  Sorry if you thought I meant it literally.

Well, not quite literally, but I heard "willing to hurt other people's feelings on purpose". If that's not what you meant, we're good.

[faust]

If I am scum, can I Attack myself?  Can I Attack my QT-partner?

I don't normally condone self-harm, but sure.

This only answers the first question, if you want to be extra-pedantic.

[ashersky]

What if you are lying scum, Joseph is misplayed town, then do you win with a mislynch?

(You can sub my name for yours in that line, and it still works, right?)

Err, yes. But if you believe that, why do you vote for Joseph?

Thanks for admitting it.  And thanks for walking right into your own trap.

Either of us, as scum, had the game won with a mislynch IF Joseph is town, per your own admission and posts.

I was pushing for Joseph's lynch today.  If I'm scum, I want to lynch him to win, right?  You sat tempted to stop that with your result claim.  So you took an active measure to redirect the pressure, votes, etc. to me.  Why?  Because Joseph isn't town, but your partner.

You ensured we got a mislynch on D3 with your quick hammer.  Had I gone after someone else, or had anyone else been the top lynch candidate, you would have just gone with it.  But I stumbled upon your partner, the only person you can't lynch for a win (edge case - Hydrad's partner).

You used the fear of mylo to create a viable narrative for why I would go so far out on a limb.  But your own logic proves that the much more likely scenario is that you and Joseph are partners and we aren't in mylo.

Because if I were scum, I'd be happy lynching any town, not Joseph specifically.  And that's where your scum narrative for me falls apart.

[ashersky]

I've modded scum Faust before, and you've always had a hard "stab a puppy with a fork if it me a I can win" attitude, but you've really taken it to the next level.

Civility, man.

I just complimented your scum play.  How's that uncivil?

If I say you're willing to replace out to win, that's rude. If you say I'm willing to stab a puppy with a fork to win, that's a compliment.

I clearly don't think you'd stab an actual puppy.  It was a metaphor for how cutthroat you are.  Sorry if you thought I meant it literally.

Well, not quite literally, but I heard "willing to hurt other people's feelings on purpose". If that's not what you meant, we're good.

Not what I meant when I wrote it.  Just visceral imagery.  My bad there.

[ashersky]

If I am scum, can I Attack myself?  Can I Attack my QT-partner?

I don't normally condone self-harm, but sure.

This only answers the first question, if you want to be extra-pedantic.

Ooh!  I do!

 Doesn't that prove my point?  Arch answered the conditional setup question but not the one that refers directly to a (his?) role.

[faust]

If I am scum, can I Attack myself?  Can I Attack my QT-partner?

I don't normally condone self-harm, but sure.

This only answers the first question, if you want to be extra-pedantic.

Ooh!  I do!

 Doesn't that prove my point?  Arch answered the conditional setup question but not the one that refers directly to a (his?) role.

I don't think so? My point was that questions about your own role would only be answered via PM.