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[yuma]

Vote Count 5.2

faust (1): Archetype

Not Voting (2): faust, EFHW

[faust]

That EFHW is scum is the thing that I am concerned about a little right now.

But: She saw me target her N1. So she would need some kind of power to tell her that. And she apparently had means to kill xeiron tonight. I guess JOAT or something like that is possible...

If EFHW is scum, No Lynch is horrible. She still has two lives, and by tomorrow, we're down to three town players. If we don't lynch her tonight, it will be nearly impossible to kill her.

[faust]

If we No Lynch, Voltaire can investigate one of Faust/EFHW. He seems dead set on me being scum anyways.

To me, EFHW seems much more confident to lynch you than I am.

[faust]

Just heard back from yuma, my night action was processed.

[faust]

I want to reread both of you, but don't think I can do so until tomorrow.

[Archetype]

Ugh. Ok. Now I'm starting to think EFHW is scum as a Roleblocker. If Faust is Town, EFHW can roleblock him. Of course this only works if EFHW is a Roleblocker or Roleblocker equivalent, which is much more unlikely than Faust lying about being a Bodyguard, but makes more senses hen combined with her scummy behavior surrounding Walrus's lynch.

Speaking of which, has anyone but me looked over that wagon?

[Archetype]

That EFHW is scum is the thing that I am concerned about a little right now.

But: She saw me target her N1. So she would need some kind of power to tell her that. And she apparently had means to kill xeiron tonight. I guess JOAT or something like that is possible...

If EFHW is scum, No Lynch is horrible. She still has two lives, and by tomorrow, we're down to three town players. If we don't lynch her tonight, it will be nearly impossible to kill her.

Well if you really are a Bodyguard, and me a Doctor, we'll have a decent shot at stopping the kill. Especially if I target you and you target me. But if she's a Roleblocker, that will totally fail.

[Archetype]

Actually, I'm even more certain Voltaire is Town. I mean, his hammer on me yesterday was weird, but our roles sort of interact well in a way.

[faust]

That EFHW is scum is the thing that I am concerned about a little right now.

But: She saw me target her N1. So she would need some kind of power to tell her that. And she apparently had means to kill xeiron tonight. I guess JOAT or something like that is possible...

If EFHW is scum, No Lynch is horrible. She still has two lives, and by tomorrow, we're down to three town players. If we don't lynch her tonight, it will be nearly impossible to kill her.

Well if you really are a Bodyguard, and me a Doctor, we'll have a decent shot at stopping the kill. Especially if I target you and you target me. But if she's a Roleblocker, that will totally fail.

How so? If I target you and you target me, scum can simply kill you, resulting in my death. Since no one else targets me, I am not protected and die.

[Archetype]

That EFHW is scum is the thing that I am concerned about a little right now.

But: She saw me target her N1. So she would need some kind of power to tell her that. And she apparently had means to kill xeiron tonight. I guess JOAT or something like that is possible...

If EFHW is scum, No Lynch is horrible. She still has two lives, and by tomorrow, we're down to three town players. If we don't lynch her tonight, it will be nearly impossible to kill her.

Well if you really are a Bodyguard, and me a Doctor, we'll have a decent shot at stopping the kill. Especially if I target you and you target me. But if she's a Roleblocker, that will totally fail.

How so? If I target you and you target me, scum can simply kill you, resulting in my death. Since no one else targets me, I am not protected and die.

Oh shoot. You're right. It'd only work if someone killed you. Well, actually maybe not. I'll have to ask whether someone killing you by targeting me would count as someone targeting you.

[EFHW]

I want to reread both of you, but don't think I can do so until tomorrow.

Do your due diligence, but to my ear Archetype is talking as though it is already determined that I am mafia, and that is a scum tactic.

[EFHW]

How did you think that was going to help you not get lynched?

Well since I'd have a 1-shot Watcher, it could have persuaded people not to lynch me. Probably not, but scum wouldn't have gained anything and I wouldn't have lost anything, so I thought: "why not?" But I got lynched before I could get online and the person I confided with, xeiron, got killed so I guess you'll just have to trust me. Or don't. Like you said, it doesn't make much of a difference.

Interesting. xeiron didn't tell me anything about this. Why do you think that is?

Because I told him not to.

So EFHW: Do you believe that I'm a Strongman Treestumper? Or whatever role Faust is trying to explain that I have? Because I think faust's role just got less credible - his Bodyguard power no longer mirrors ashersky's, which was the main reason why we (well, maybe me just I) believed him when he originally claimed.

Good idea - Strongman Treestumper would fit the bill.  But I actually think it is just as likely that xeiron was macho.  faust's role not mirroring ashersky's doesn't really seem relevant to me.  I'm sure yuma would make balance a higher priority than symmetry. 

faust's towniness is reinforced for me.  If he were scum and you town, he could very credibly have voted you and let me hammer, given the strong case against you.  We would both be wrong, and equally suspicious for it. 

[EFHW]

My flavor is Oscar, a Commuting Lover.  Apparently I smoke a lot of marijuana.

[faust]

Fine, I'm done. The main thing I guess is how Arch claimed he saw Walrus targeting Voltaire, and Voltaire doesn't make any sense as a target for scum!Walrus. That, and Arch's defense of Walrus D3, and the fact that no death resulted from Arch targeting Eevee, is just too much to overlook. Still confused about xeiron dying, but yes, I guess it could be his role.

Vote: Archetype

I'm hoping for the best.

[Archetype]

Well, I'll vote: EFHW. I think the fact that you actually did a reread makes you more likely to be Town. If I get lynched and the games not over, it's most likely because Voltaire is scum. I say most likely because your second power could change the game.

I had a whole plan written out that I then deleted. Town should know the right move at this point, so me telling scum it may not be the best.

[EFHW]

vote: Archetype

[Teproc]

Note : This is directly copy/pasted from yuma in the speccy because he can't access the forums at work.

Final Day5 Vote Count

Archetype (2): faust, EFHW
EFHW (1): Archetype


Voltaire came running into the
Bluth Company conference room. Sorry, I am late! What did I miss!

Archetype has been lynched. He was Lindsay, the Compulsive Bad Cook, a Good Bluth.

Night5 will be approximately 24 hours long with the night action deadline and night check-in 24 hours from now.

Night5 Starts Now! Thread Locked!

[pingpongsam]

Thread Locked!

[yuma]

Day6 Start

At the Annual Bluth Gala there was a surprise waiting for the Bluth Family. A magic trick! The famous Tony Wonder would be performing a trick he called "The Man Inside of Me."

Unfortunately the trick did not go off very well as someone had sabotaged his trick. As a result, faust died during the night. He was Tony Wonder, the Magic Bodyguard, a Secondary Character.

Vote Count 6.1

Not Voting (3): Voltaire, faust, EFHW

With 3 alive it takes 2 to lynch

Day6 will last 8 days and will end on March8 at 8 pm forum time.

Thread Unlocked!

[EFHW]

Voltaire, I'm so sad!  Ashersky I probably will doubt you again, but were right!

[Voltaire]

Voltaire, I'm so sad!  Ashersky I probably will doubt you again, but were right!

What are you talking about?

So from watching D5 and faust dying last night, there's no way it's not EFHW. The only possible other way would be if he shot himself, and I just can't see him doing that since EFHW has two lives, and scum!faust would need to go for the win, not weird night shenanigans, tonight.

Not voting simply out of an abundance of caution. 

Actually...shit. EFHW has two lives, we each have one. Can we even win at this point?

[Voltaire]

I have no result, btw.

[EFHW]

faust it is Not me.  Do not vote for me, that will be game over.  If I were scum I would have killed Voltaire last night for the win, as you would have as well.  It's Voltaire, and I'm just waiting for you to post before voting.

[Voltaire]

Cute. EFHW tried to kill me, faust guarded me. This is actually really straightforward except for the fact that EFHW has two lives left.

[EFHW]

Please tell me you did not bodyguard him last night!  That is his only hope.  He'll say I shot him and it rebounded to you, but that is not what happened!

You did though, didn't you.  I can see why, but I am worried that now you think I am scum.  Unless I'm having some sort of identity crisis, I am TOWN.  I was wrong about Archetype, but as you said yourself there was a very compelling case against him, and very little about us.

If you lynch me, our only chance will be if I get some kind of kickass power.  We can't count on that.

Ok, I'll stop panicking now and hope you log on soon so we can discuss this.

PPE see there's Voltaire saying that exact thing.