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[Archetype]

Crap. I chose wrong.

I'm a Doctor....sort of. Each night I must target one player. If another player also targets them, they will be protected from one nightkill. If no one else targets them, they will be removed from the vote count the following day and won't be able to post.

Here's my thinking last night: I needed to use the power to clear my name. Otherwise, I would be the lynch the following day and lose the game for Town. The two most likely NK targets were, in my mind, Voltaire and Xeiron. I figured that Voltaire would be targeted since he's a Cop and scum would target him to negate him of his power. Xeiron I figured would be targeted by Faust since Xeiron seems to be Faust's highest Townread.

So, if it wasn't obvious already, I ended up targeting Voltaire. Targeting Xeiron wouldn't be worth it since faust would, most likely, take the kill. If I was wrong, Xeiron would be out of commission the following day which would suck since he's, in my mind, our best bet at solving this.

BUT! Xeiron died. Which is really, really surprising. But I think we may have caught faust.

Would faust Bodyguard Xeiron? Of course! So why didn't he?
Would faust Bodyguard Voltaire? Possibly, but then why is Voltaire removed from the Vote Count?
Would faust Bodyguard me? No! Would he make me Bodyguard him? No! That makes no sense. If I'm the remaining scum, why would he want to make me protect him against his own kill?
Would faust Bodyguard EFHW? No. He'd be tied as a Lover with her which makes 0 sense unless he thinks EFHW is scum.

So I'm left thinking Faust is scum. The other option is the reason Voltaire's Copping wasn't thwarted by scum is because he himself is scum. But now he's out of commission. If this is the  case we'd need to No Lynch and lynch him tomorrow.

So EFHW is, by default, most likely Town. Which hurts my ego a bit.

[Archetype]

Hopefully it goes without saying, but don't prematurely vote. Consider me at a "Vote: Faust".

[EFHW]

Archetype I still think you are scum (though I will think through it again to make sure), but I do appreciate your going all out instead of giving up!

[EFHW]

N4 action claims:

Archetype targets Voltaire with "doctor".  I'm going to assume most of his real power is the same as his claim.
scum kill xeiron
I had no action - my power was used up, as I had mentioned on two occasions.

Maybe: faust targeted me (probably with his kill deflection).  He would consider himself more valuable town than me, given that he has a power.  Also, if I die I get a new power, which would be helpful to town. 

Interesting that he chose not to protect someone with one life.  The pattern was definitely that scum kill someone with one life.  He (probably) wouldn't target Voltaire in hopes of getting a cop result.  He would have discussed with xeiron in their QT whether or not to protect xeiron, but we can't know what they said. 

Archetype: what did you and xeiron say in your QT?

faust: why didn't you protect xeiron?

N3 by my theory both scum!Archetype and faust targeted Voltaire, which would explain why Voltaire wasn't out of commission Day 4.

And we don't need xeiron to figure this out.  Other people can be logical too!

[Archetype]

QT is shut down since xeiron lost his power.

EFHW: I didn't get my new power until last night. So your out of commission failure for Day 4 theory would be false unless both my powers can sit people out of the game.

[EFHW]

QT is shut down since xeiron lost his power.

EFHW: I didn't get my new power until last night. So your out of commission failure for Day 4 theory would be false unless both my powers can sit people out of the game.

ok

[EFHW]

doesn't really change anything. 

[EFHW]

So what was the other part of your previous power that you were offering to claim Day 4?

[Archetype]

I was 4-shot. So once one of the powers was used (Tracker, Voyeur, Follower, Watcher) it couldn't be used again.

[EFHW]

How did you think that was going to help you not get lynched?

[EFHW]

Is Voltaire out for the night as well, or just the day?  And how does he figure into counts for win/loss determination?

[Archetype]

How did you think that was going to help you not get lynched?

Well since I'd have a 1-shot Watcher, it could have persuaded people not to lynch me. Probably not, but scum wouldn't have gained anything and I wouldn't have lost anything, so I thought: "why not?" But I got lynched before I could get online and the person I confided with, xeiron, got killed so I guess you'll just have to trust me. Or don't. Like you said, it doesn't make much of a difference.

[EFHW]

And how do you explain that you say you targeted Eevee N3 but he didn't shoot you/faust?

[Archetype]

Is Voltaire out for the night as well, or just the day?  And how does he figure into counts for win/loss determination?

He's out for the day. I'll ask yuma about win/loss determination.

[Archetype]

And how do you explain that you say you targeted Eevee N3 but he didn't shoot you/faust?

No idea. I thought my initial theory was good, but Walrus being scum makes it less sound.

[Archetype]

Actually, now that I think about it, faust not being dead is weird too.

[Archetype]

Still upset that I chose wrong for protection. If I did end up saving xeiron, I'd still be still on you about being scum, EFHW, but at least you guys would think I'm less likely to be scum.

[Archetype]

Ok. So apparently the out of commissioned player is still considered alive for all intents and purposes. Which rocks if Voltaire is scum, but sucks if Faust is.

[EFHW]

Actually, now that I think about it, faust not being dead is weird too.

Why is that?  And how did you decide I'm town? 

[Archetype]

Actually, now that I think about it, faust not being dead is weird too.

Why is that?  And how did you decide I'm town?

Well if faust did Bodyguard me, why isn't he dead? Leads me to believe that certainly NOT a Bodyguard, but then why aren't I dead? You're Town by POE.

[faust]

Well, this is weird. Don't know what happened exactly, but I did target xeiron. And given that Archetype is like the only one to explain this, I do think he's lying.

We should consider no-lynch here. There's basically 4 of us alive. This runs the danger of scum killing one of us and removing the other from the game...

I didn't get my night action confirmed tonight, which is weird because that happened every time before. I PM'ed yuma about this and hope to get clarification soon.

[faust]

Let me also go all out here, because there's one thing I've kept secret until now: The part of my role where I can make someone else bodyguard me is only 1-shot. I already used that shot on EFHW.

[faust]

What really rubs me the wrong way here though is that scum somehow got around my protection and Voltaire got temporarily tree-stumped. Both of that seems a little too much power for a single scum member.

So I don't think EFHW is lying about her role, so she can't be an explanation for this. But what if Voltaire is scum...? We might still be fine by lynch Archetype, next night EFHW, me and Voltaire are alive and both me and EFHW still have two lives. So Voltaire can't kill us, and we can lynch him the following Day.

[faust]

QT is shut down since xeiron lost his power.

Confirming this.

[faust]

How did you think that was going to help you not get lynched?

Well since I'd have a 1-shot Watcher, it could have persuaded people not to lynch me. Probably not, but scum wouldn't have gained anything and I wouldn't have lost anything, so I thought: "why not?" But I got lynched before I could get online and the person I confided with, xeiron, got killed so I guess you'll just have to trust me. Or don't. Like you said, it doesn't make much of a difference.

Interesting. xeiron didn't tell me anything about this. Why do you think that is?