Game moments to investigate, for posterity:I would also like to direct your attention to Cuzz voting me and staying on me when I was receiving enough suspicion to be at risk of being exiled. Day 4.
1. The D1 infang/EFHW wagon
2. The D1 scola wagon
3. Jimmmm's and Cuzz's attitudes towards scola on D2
4. The D3 infangthief/EFHW wagon
5. The scola/Jimmmmm counterclaim situation on D4
That was actually a Didds/scola scumteam narrative. Why wouldn't you survive the night?!Jimmmmm is strong in the 3 player endgame, but it still aeems excessive.
I highly doubt the Didds/me scumteam narrative is anywhere near credible enough for me to survive the Night.
Yes, I realize it. I don't see how I said anything suggesting we can afford a misexile. I was thinking of their possible strategy earlier in the game, but if it started with exlo then it does make more sense they would focus on one player. Cuzz could only roleblock under certain conditions re: goon voting. We should look into that.Like, your post reads as though we can afford a misexile. Do you realize that we are at exlo?Jimmmm has been implicated first by scola, in two ways, and now by Didds. They can't all be scum. Didds/scola would mean the scum went to a lot of trouble to exile one town player. Town!Jimmmmm is strong in the 3 player endgame, but it still aeems excessive. Which leads me to view Jimmmmm as probable scum.True, but we have had a Roleblocker flip, and that can very well explain town!scola and town!Jimmmmm.
And of course scum goes through a lot of trouble to exile one town player? Exiling one town player wins them the game.
right, but it makes my double bussingvtheory less likely.It's possible that a fake PR claim is the best way to avoid scrutiny. Like scum!Didds may actually have some PR that was targeting the people that she claimed to have targeted, and so it's best to do that claim. Furthermore, while I believe that Didds for herself would not have chosen the most confrontative course, she has partners, and if those partners agreed that she should go for the Tracker claim then I don't think that Didds would deny them.This rings true, actually.And it is not for nothing that I am SUPER uncomfortable in a situation where I have to prove that I am telling the truth and someone else is lying. I would never, ever seek to create a situation where I would have to do this. If I was scumbuddies with Cuzz, he could have claimed Tracker and I could be the VT. I think you know this about me but if you think through how this would have played out in a chat, you’ll see that this is not ever the play I’d make. I am only in this situation because of my role and I would LOVE not having to be. I really dislike it when people don’t trust me and I take hard (my issue, no one else’s) so I avoid this however possible.I also don't really get this. Cuzz was exiled yesterday in part because he was a VT. Why do you think people would have trusted you more had you claimed VT?
I don’t know about trust. I’m saying that if I was scum I’d never be the one to make a fake claim that could even potentially put me in a 1v1 with anyone.
Watching a pr would not be as helpful as it might seem because it would be too hard to interpret any result, as we are aeeing with Didds' and scola's results on you. And it means that the likely nk went unwatched, even though that information would be bery helpful.You would not know how to interpret your result and the likely nk went unmatched.
Sorry I'm having trouble parsing this sentence.
Can you clarify this please?
Not following this argument, either.I think that's possible. But there's also the wagon analysis. Though looking back at the VCA now, scola was on your D1 wagon and Didds on your D3 wagon, so if that's the team then it would make sense that more scum didn't vote for you.@faust You said 2 scum in {scola/Didds/Jimmmmm}, but then you have me as the 2nd scum.Well you should read on at "On the other hand".
oh, I see. I disagreed with that premise. I think it's possible scum didn't think that completely through (about preventing an IC).
I'm not following this exchange.Actually, you fully believe me.
Nice catch
This rings true, actually.And it is not for nothing that I am SUPER uncomfortable in a situation where I have to prove that I am telling the truth and someone else is lying. I would never, ever seek to create a situation where I would have to do this. If I was scumbuddies with Cuzz, he could have claimed Tracker and I could be the VT. I think you know this about me but if you think through how this would have played out in a chat, you’ll see that this is not ever the play I’d make. I am only in this situation because of my role and I would LOVE not having to be. I really dislike it when people don’t trust me and I take hard (my issue, no one else’s) so I avoid this however possible.I also don't really get this. Cuzz was exiled yesterday in part because he was a VT. Why do you think people would have trusted you more had you claimed VT?
I don’t know about trust. I’m saying that if I was scum I’d never be the one to make a fake claim that could even potentially put me in a 1v1 with anyone.
Too obvious?Right now I'm thinking Didds and Jimmmmm are bussing each other.
I’m not sure I see the logic here. If we were baddies together wouldn’t we have tried to set up Scola? Go for the win?
Stranger things have happened, though I can't think of any offhand.Right now I'm thinking Didds and Jimmmmm are bussing each other.You really think they would claim Watcher/Tracker? And now bus each other instead of providing matching results to frame someone else?
@faust You said 2 scum in {scola/Didds/Jimmmmm}, but then you have me as the 2nd scum.Well you should read on at "On the other hand".
Are you saying that it's not unlikely enough for me to base my Night action around it?I don't see why you would base your night actions around the double tracker claim. You would not know how to interpret your result and the likely nk went unmatched.
What assumptions from Didds and scola do you not accept?
I would have tracked Didds or you. Honorable mention to to RBing swowl., who I still suspected (sorry swowl!)
It seems unlikely. But which one is the fake?OK I disagree with your seeming 100% that she's scum (from your PoV), but I just reread your first post and did see the double negative there.
Today's claims aside, can you conceive of an argument that we could have two full tracking roles?
Same question to you EFHW.
I don’t think that two baddies would have bussed Cuzz.
If Didds was Town I would have expected scum to have a Ninja. What they had is a conditional Ninja they never used. There's no way we have two full tracking roles.
Didds is scum (two tracking roles makes no sense).
Didds would do the kill to keep her partner safe.
I don't need a Night action to tell me this.
Confirming or catching scola would give me information I don't already have.
