Alright, I'm going to look at Sudgy's game to this point. I'm going to just jot down my thoughts here.
Sudgy is quiet for the start of the game, but was V/LA at that point, so that's not an issue.
I think we should do a pop's style quiz of reads later in the day. I can see mgp's point and that we maybe shouldn't do it right away.
Here, Sudgy thinks we should do pop-style quizzes. A fair enough request. However, he never posts his own, which is a little weird to me. If you think something's a good idea, you should do it yourself. Perhaps he was looking for other people's reads so he could safely get on an uncontroversial wagon? His next post was a vote on mail-mi. Between his request and his vote, mail-mi was first on Eevee's suspicion list, and fifth on lio's. Eevee and Robz had also voted for mail-mi in this gap, so it's quite a sheepy vote:
He also drops in the fact that he was V/LA for a while, and quite busy. Everyone knew that already, and he keeps telling us. It may be completely innocent, or it may be an excuse. I can't say.
In this point, he continues to vote on mail-mi, and says he had thought about voting Robz.
Yuma is the first person to accuse Sudgy of anything (pretty much that Sudgy fits the bill for a lurker scum).
(This post starts off in a random direction, but you'll see what I'm getting at here)
I've noticed a couple things about my mafia playstyle:
1. Depending on certain random conditions (availability, who I am in the game, etc.), my playstyle significantly changes. This is kind of nice usually, as it will make it harder to read me when I'm scum. But sometimes it isn't (see below)
2. I tend to make decisions without saying them in thread. This is probably a result of being an introvert. This usually isn't nice.
Now, this game, I was V/LA for the first bit. As such, it was harder to get into it later. This affected my playstyle, as I didn't want to post much. To fix this, however, I decided to force myself to post. Whatever I could. So I usually would just post a little bit at a time.
And what does that look like? Acti-lurking. I don't mean to do it, but it happened anyway.
I know that this is kind of a weird and sudden-ish defense, but I wanted to get this out there.
What? I don't understand this at all. Are you trying to excuse your defense? Yuma had voted for you 10 posts ago.! Defending yourself isn't weird at all, nor is it at all sudden! If you're town, it's what you should be doing, because we want to kill scum, not you! This behavior feels very off to me, and gave me the same feel I got from repeated posts saying you were busy. These are things you shouldn't have to say, they felt forced, and it seemed like you were creating excuses that were unnecessary for you to make.
It's also noteworthy that despite not being around much early, other than a little bit of pressure on eevee early (I didn't have much of an issue with this, although certain people like SB found it a little scummy), Sudgy was focused on both Mail-Mi and Robz from a fairly early time. I'm not sure what to make of this, but it's something to keep in mind.
Throughout the Robz/Mail-mi decision (when it looked like the lynch was going to be one or the other), Sudgy is around and posting, but doesn't make a concerted effort to dig for information. It looks like his main goal is getting one of the two lynches through, particularly a lynch of Robz. Again, he may be mistaken town, but I would like to think a town would dig deeper. For example, we have this:
Gah, Vote: Robz888. This is getting kind of annoying, but his recent posts have been a bit scummier and it seems more people are willing to lynch him than others.
Also, xeiron, we're going to need you to vote soon anyway. We need to get a lynch somehow.
This is nearly two hours before the soft deadline. Vague, and not asking any questions. We still have plenty of time before the soft deadline, but it looks like Sudgy has no plan to find out more about Robz and Mail-Mi. He just wants to make sure a lynch goes through. At this point, I think he should be digging more than he is if he were town. He made no effort to find answers through this period.
The big red flag here is: He didn't hammer Robz, or switch to him earlier. He had gone back and forth between Robz and Mail-Mi earlier, and was online when Robz was at 5 votes and Mail-Mi 3. I think he could've switched here without much suspicion, and let someone else hammer. But he didn't. If he we still think he's scum, we need to answer why this is.
Recently, he posted this:
I don't know if this is a good idea or not, but maybe we should have Robz pick who to lynch and we lynch that person. I can see why this could be a bad idea, but we need to avoid a no lynch.
Again, this seems sheepy. "Let's just get a lynch through, I'll trust Robz to make the decision"?? No, if you're town, your goal shouldn't be to "get any lynch through." It should be to get a correct lynch through!
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