It's also Action discard Lost City. Does that make it too strong?Only playtesting can tell. My guess is that it is fine as you cannot run a monostategy.
Pathfinding plus then some for $5 is far too cheap.
Raiders' Den
+2 Actions
The next Horse or Spoils you play this turn isn't returned to its pile.
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Overpay: Per $3 overpaid, move your Horse or Spoils token to a Kingdom Supply pile you have no tokens on. (When you play a card from that pile, gain a Horse/Spoils.)
$2+ Cost Action
After some testing: changed its pricing so that you have to buy one for each time you want to place a token, but you only pay the $5 if you want to actually use it for token placement and can buy it for its intrinsic value otherwise, in case you want to add more to your deck. Also added a little incentive to have it not just be a more expensive necropolis. Now it neatly interacts with what the tokens do. (for some reason i couldn't get the bold font on overpay to work ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ).
SharesI don’t get this. Without the below the line stuff, it is on average Village yet cheaper.
Action - $2
+1 Action
Choose one: Place your Shares token on an Action supply pile, or take back your Shares token for +2 Cards and +2 Actions
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In games using this, when any player gains a card, +1 Card if your Shares token is on it
Edit from previous post: Modified so it's one per player
Happy Village already exists as Event.
You generally never need to move your token more than once (although with Raiders' Den you want to move two) and these are very weak cards other than the token moving. I think that they'll be treated as one/two-shots and you'll only buy one copy (unless it's the only Village, in which case it's not fun to have to buy Necropolises for $5). Powerful one-shots are probably better as Events. You could argue that it could put the token on itself, but they're so weak other than the token moving that there's much better targets.
TL;DR: I recommend making these into Events.
Yeah, you are right.I think that a wording like with Merchant would be more compact "The first time you play a Silver this turn, +1 Card, then you may put a card from your hand onto your deck." and it would also have the effect that the card works more naturally with Throne Rooms (it becomes throneable) and Ways (the Way ignores the Silver effect as there is no below-line stuff anymore).
That functionally changes it such that with three Hot Springs and 1 silver, you get to draw 3 cards when you play a silver. The current wording requires 1 hot spring and 3 silvers to draw 3 which is better balanced since silver is a stop card. Also, your suggested wording would render the “play a treasure” less useful since only your first silver play does anything.
I appreciate the simpler wording, but I think it would make the card not designed as well. Thanks for your thoughts.
I am not huge fan of getting told how to actually write or talk. That is far more obnoxious and rude than me making the point that a card idea already exists, implemented in two cards that are stronger.It feels like Sheepdog and Stowaway had a love child but gave them their worst genes.
There's a nicer, more helpful way to say this.
You obviously never played with Goatherd or Hideout which are both stronger than +1 Action, trash a card, gain a Horse. There is a huge difference between drawing now and thus having a larger trashing choice and getting a Horse and thus having a smaller trashing choice.Goat is sad
Listing Goat in A tier was wrong but it's definitely not sad. non-terminally +1 Card, +1 Action, trash a card (which is basically what this is) is quite strong. If Rats didn't give you another rats people would be all over it. And turning into a different card later is a premium upgrade for a trasher.
It's basically a Lab with a +Buy. I'd say 2/5 ways are ok $5s when you add a card and a Buy. Goat is sad, Butterfly is sad, Frog is sad, Rat is dead, Camel is sad, Monkey is sad, Ox is sad, Seal is sad, Sheep is sad, Chameleon is sad, Mole is sad, and Worm is sad. Horse, Mule, Otter, Owl, Pig, Squirrel, Turtle, and Mouse are reasonable $5s. And the thing to remember is you get a choice out of 3, so even if all the choices are so-so this could be worth it. And many boards this will fill a role not present, particularly when it's the only +Buy, so it will be fine even without being super crazy.Nah. Squirrel sucks with handsize Attacks, Mule is a delayed Market (a weak $5 to being with so a delayed version can hardly be OK) and Otter is worse than a Smithy with a Buy like Barge or whatever.
Edit: And you get the value from giving yourself access to whatever Way, or denying it to your opponent.
Nah. As I said, Captain with Pearl Diver is super bad. Captain with something like Ironmonger is not broken and the advantage of Ironmonger easily compensates for the Duration.Captain kinda disagree with the notion that a $6 Duration „+1 Action, at the start of your next turn, +2 Cards, +1 Action“ (Horse Trainer + Turtle) is crazy. Captain on any cantrip is superior to the above and you are kinda sad when Pearl Diver is the best to pair with Captain.Horse Trainer doesn't have the duration penalty; you're comparing Highwayman to Haunted Woods. And Captain is currently rated as the 26th best card, so anything comparing to that would ideally be tuned down a little bit.
I'd also like to add that Owl is A tier. Less easy to use than Otter, but still really strong.
