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[WalrusMcFishSr]

Hey guys way too drunk to post a proper sldaily post. So sorry. I will post toloreow morning is I have the time. Good night I love you all

[faust]

Hey guys way too drunk to post a proper sldaily post. So sorry. I will post toloreow morning is I have the time. Good night I love you all

Are you mafia?

[ashersky]

Hey guys way too drunk to post a proper sldaily post. So sorry. I will post toloreow morning is I have the time. Good night I love you all

Did you play kickball?

[yuma]

Vote Count 1.6

Robz (2): Teproc, Jorbles
Jimmmmm (2): ashersky, Robz
2.7 (1): Walrus
ashersky (2): Voltaire, mcmcsalot

Not Voting (5): faust, Morgrim, manda, 2.7, Jimmmmm

Day1 will end in 12 days (10+2 for Thanksgiving) on December 4 at 10 pm forum time

[Jorbles]

Such a missed opportunity Walrus, when you're super drunk is the best time to put up a daily post!

[mcmcsalot]

Such a missed opportunity Walrus, when you're super drunk is the best time to put up a daily post!

It really is,

so some thoughts.

Teprocs reaction to morgrim did seem towny so I lean more town on him than before.

Jorbles doesn't seem to be posting very much quality in his posts so a bit scummy from him though not much because its sort of what I expect from jorbles(not a diss)

Robz post count for day one is interesting though I do think people are beginning to take mafia more seriously again across the board.

Ash responded towny to the arguments against him which again is a null tell in my opinion.(again I believe he is playing less domineering on purpose regardless of alignment) unvote

Still bad at reading new players.

[Jimmmmm]

The entire tone of just about all of mcmc's posts just scream scummy to me. Reminds me of DS9 mcmc.

Vote: mcmcsalot

[2.71828.....]

I don't really have great posting abilities right now but I will work on getting some reads out there. On my kindle so I won't be able to reference like I enjoy doing, and I will also have to post more slowly. So here are some reads. One at a time.
Jimmmm: a rvs vote on robz then he feels the need to explain his unvote? Makes me think his first vote wasn't really rvs. Gives me a little scum feel on him. His other interactions haven't done anything to change that.

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mcmc- I don't like so many serious votes so early in the day. I have never played with mcmc before, so maybe that is just his style, but it rubs me the wrong way.

[mcmcsalot]

mcmc- I don't like so many serious votes so early in the day. I have never played with mcmc before, so maybe that is just his style, but it rubs me the wrong way.

vote: 2.71828 absolutely ridiculous.  People seem to think talking about theory and random voting should last the entirety of day 1. It rubs you the wrong way that I am seriously scum hunting??? Must be because your scum.

[mcmcsalot]

The entire tone of just about all of mcmc's posts just scream scummy to me. Reminds me of DS9 mcmc.

Vote: mcmcsalot

Only thing I can say to this(because I see what your getting at) remember ds9 was multiball, and I was sincerely scum-hunting that whole game. I was truly convicted liopoil was scum, he wasn't and it ruined me(as well as poor interaction with galz/robz) but I was scumhunting.

[2.71828.....]

Robz- I really like bold play, so scum or not I like robz approach to this game from claiming ic to meta-modification. D1 pass for me.

[2.71828.....]

mcmc- I don't like so many serious votes so early in the day. I have never played with mcmc before, so maybe that is just his style, but it rubs me the wrong way.

vote: 2.71828 absolutely ridiculous.  People seem to think talking about theory and random voting should last the entirety of day 1. It rubs you the wrong way that I am seriously scum hunting??? Must be because your scum.

OMGUS votes look more scummy than sharing thoughts and maybe catching some heat for them

[Jimmmmm]

The entire tone of just about all of mcmc's posts just scream scummy to me. Reminds me of DS9 mcmc.

Vote: mcmcsalot

Only thing I can say to this(because I see what your getting at) remember ds9 was multiball, and I was sincerely scum-hunting that whole game. I was truly convicted liopoil was scum, he wasn't and it ruined me(as well as poor interaction with galz/robz) but I was scumhunting.

The general feeling that I'm getting from you is just that you're quite blasé, which actually makes more sense from scum in a non-multiball. I'm having trouble trying to articulate what I mean, because it's really just the tone or feel of your posts, which I know is really hard to argue against.

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 Ashersky

I do this a lot, and truly believe it is an aid in scum hunting.  Make everyone put things down on the record, even if it seems harmless or useless at the time.  Putting opinions down in the open is always hard for scum because it might end up catching them later.  Whether it's a refusal to answer, an answer that's way off, or an answer that was exactly in the middle but provided after everyone else, we can find out things about other players.

Ash with a subtle plan for D2 or later? Insanity. But I can buy it.

No need to "turn up the asshole dial". Thanks (I guess) for being where you are right now. Not sure I buy your insistence on mcmc but I'll look at him in other games.

I like the idea of a D2 plan from ash since his D1 plan was hijacked by the IC. I haven't seen anything especially scummy from him so I like the idea of a D1 pass here.

[faust]

e, you're giving out lots of "D1 passes" early in the Day. Are you serious that you will not vote for Robz and ashersky?

[2.71828.....]

e, you're giving out lots of "D1 passes" early in the Day. Are you serious that you will not vote for Robz and ashersky?

D1 pass might be a little strong, but it will take some convincing before I vote them.

[Jorbles]

Ugh, scummy vibes from mcmc, Jimmmm and e's interaction. They can't all be scum (well I mean they could, but I really doubt it), but it kinda looks like they're all trying to muck someone up for a mislynch. I guess I think e's statements do strike me as the most out there. Especially, his reads on mcmc, but also giving people d1 passes so he has an excuse to not vote for them if they look like a good lynch. Personally I think passes are something you should reserve only for people you find extremely towny, or situations where there is some reason external to reads that should keep them alive (pending investigation, claimed PR, etc). e's playstyle reads scummy to me, enough that I find him scummier than Robz.

Vote: e (2.71etc)

PPE: I agree with faust, clearly.

[Robz888]

I think e2.7 looks a little scummy from that, but not as scummy as mcmc and Jimm.

[faust]

Okay, so we'll need a soft deadline. Here's the thing: As the IC, I'd like to be around for the soft deadline, but you know, this is sort of complicated with me living in Europe and all. I propose Tuesday, December 3, 2 pm forum time.

[2.71828.....]

but also giving people d1 passes so he has an excuse to not vote for them if they look like a good lynch

And this is why I completely agree with manda when talking about D1 passes for newbies. They shouldn't exist. If someone is scummy, vote for them. I also sympathize with manda in regards to meta discussion. It is really hard for new players to learn anything from that discussion. I disagree with the conclusion that it is altogether pointless because I do see some good benefit in meta discussion. It is just hard for new players to get reads from metas. In fact, I like a lot of what manda has said. D1 pass for manda.

[2.71828.....]

Okay, so we'll need a soft deadline. Here's the thing: As the IC, I'd like to be around for the soft deadline, but you know, this is sort of complicated with me living in Europe and all. I propose Tuesday, December 3, 2 pm forum time.

I am good with that soft deadline. We have our work cut out for us Monday and Tuesday though since we have had (and will have through the weekend) so much v/la.

[mcmcsalot]

I don't care I omgused you 2.7, you did something I found very scummy, I don't care who you thought was directed at. And then you followed it up with another very scummy post giving robz a d1 pass. So I am pretty happy with my vote.

Jorbles explain why you think me Jimm and e are scummy please. You mentioned why you found e scummy but not really me and Jimm. I think you just picked the people who were currently talking said they were all scummy and then explain/voted for 1. To me that reads like a scum player possibly casting mass suspicion and only backing up what he needs to(explain his vote)

Jimm I know it's tough but can you explain a little more what you mean by blase? Do you agree with 2.7 i am too serious or voting too much? Do you think I am not backing up my reads?

[mcmcsalot]

but also giving people d1 passes so he has an excuse to not vote for them if they look like a good lynch

And this is why I completely agree with manda when talking about D1 passes for newbies. They shouldn't exist. If someone is scummy, vote for them. I also sympathize with manda in regards to meta discussion. It is really hard for new players to learn anything from that discussion. I disagree with the conclusion that it is altogether pointless because I do see some good benefit in meta discussion. It is just hard for new players to get reads from metas. In fact, I like a lot of what manda has said. D1 pass for manda.

Wait what?  3 day 1 passes already?

[mcmcsalot]

Also at 2.7

You don't like meta discussion, as well as you don't like my serious votes? What do you suggest we talk about?