It seems to me that this is very easy towncredit to be giving out. Teproc was never a very likely lynch candidate from the beginning of day2. So if he is mafia, he is giving a strong townread and towncredit to the person least likely to be lynched (aside from the IC). It isn't a very big risk. And look it has paid off. Teproc isn't voting voltaire nor does it appear he ever will. If Teproc is town he won his support.
Yes, and you worked as hard as possible to prevent Teproc from becoming obv!town.
Did I? Back that up. Show me and everyone. Because I would say I have expressed some doubt (necessary doubt considering the circumstances) compared to you... but "worked as hard as possible" that seems like a gross overstatement.
You know if you did or not.
And "expressing doubt" is all you need to do. Of course you wouldn't run around saying "dudez teproc is so scummmmmm," but making sure that people keep questioning themselves is what scum needs to do. You said it yourself in your case on EFHW, scum has to avoid anyone becoming obvtown.
The below is not every single post or quote, because if you are scum what you are doing is trying to refute individual points and not the whole - ie how they affect the flow and direction of the conversation we're having today.
Reverse order:
I am ready and willing to vote for voltaire, but again wonder about teproc and mail-mi.
You have to assume 4 different things before you arrive at a conclusion. That isn't good. I agree that mail-mi and teproc probably shouldn't be the lynch candidates for today, which means I should only be looking at Walrus, eevee and voltaire...
But I want to take in everything (including associations with mail-mi and teproc) in trying to figure out which one is mafia/partners. Not doing so excludes possibilities that are very real and doesn't result in incredibly shaky results.
I am not really considering teproc a lynch for today, but I am keeping him very much in the back of my mind because I do think it is a realistic possibility that he is in fact scum, especially as it appears other players appear to not be.
How is teproc's play to his detriment if he is scum. I lean with you that he is more likely town than scum, but I think you and others are giving him far more credit than deserved based solely off chair's /outing from the game, which as I explained before I think chairs would have done regardless of his alignment.
I do think teproc is playing well. I disagree with some of his points and he isn't currently at the top of my list, but I dont' think we can just give him a pass and not look at him as potential scum. Doing so I think is dangerous. Same, but inverse with mail-mi.
We also need to discuss if we really think that chairs/teproc is town. It seems like most players gave chairs a town read toward the end of the day--I think a lot of that might have been sympathy reads (I know I felt bad that he was /outing and it is hard to lynch someone you feel bad for, that is just psychological behavior)
(now that last one is quite reasonable. But it's worth remembering the timeline - you say this, start of day, cool cool. Then you do a case on EFHW, it blows up, we have an IC now, you start questioning Teproc way more)
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