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[Voltaire]

except that Robz is most likely to be scum

FTFY. Sorta. Probably yuma.

[Robz888]

Playing devil's advocate, b/c I am also considering voting Voltaire, how would only voting Robz with a weak case be a scum strategy?

This is the answer I would give to yuma as to his vote on Voltaire. I have a hard time seeing it for this reason.

Frankly, I don't understand Voltaire's obsessed tunneling of me, but I'm used to it by now! Like I said, I think he has a bias toward me.

This feels so scummy to me.  There is one scum strategy that would fit this scenario, and that's hard-core bussing.

Nonsense. Entirely nonsense. Scum who do that on Day 1 are scum who lose. Trust me!

[Robz888]

Okay Voltaire's acting weird.

[Voltaire]

Okay Voltaire's acting weird.

Now, or earlier on a re-read?

[EFHW]

Playing devil's advocate, b/c I am also considering voting Voltaire, how would only voting Robz with a weak case be a scum strategy?

This is the answer I would give to yuma as to his vote on Voltaire. I have a hard time seeing it for this reason.

Frankly, I don't understand Voltaire's obsessed tunneling of me, but I'm used to it by now! Like I said, I think he has a bias toward me.

This feels so scummy to me.  There is one scum strategy that would fit this scenario, and that's hard-core bussing.

Nonsense. Entirely nonsense. Scum who do that on Day 1 are scum who lose. Trust me!

what do yuma and Eevee think?  You are our other vets.

[Robz888]

Okay Voltaire's acting weird.

Now, or earlier on a re-read?

Now.

[Robz888]

Playing devil's advocate, b/c I am also considering voting Voltaire, how would only voting Robz with a weak case be a scum strategy?

This is the answer I would give to yuma as to his vote on Voltaire. I have a hard time seeing it for this reason.

Frankly, I don't understand Voltaire's obsessed tunneling of me, but I'm used to it by now! Like I said, I think he has a bias toward me.

This feels so scummy to me.  There is one scum strategy that would fit this scenario, and that's hard-core bussing.

Nonsense. Entirely nonsense. Scum who do that on Day 1 are scum who lose. Trust me!

what do yuma and Eevee think?  You are our other vets.

They agree with me.

[Voltaire]

Okay Voltaire's acting weird.

Now, or earlier on a re-read?

Now.

What's weird about my behavior?

unvote.

[Robz888]

This felt forced to me. Like you're trying to give off a chill attitude.

except that Robz is most likely to be scum

FTFY. Sorta. Probably yuma.

[Voltaire]

I think chairs (/out actions) and mail-mi (consistent with town meta) are town or close enough they should be off the table for today's lynch.

I have returned to thinking lynching yuma is a terrible idea today.

Post Count
84 yuma
71 Voltaire
54 EFHW
51 Robz
32 Eevee
29 faust
24 chairs
18 Walrus
16 mail-mi

Robz has posted, physically, way more than I thought.

This felt forced to me. Like you're trying to give off a chill attitude.

except that Robz is most likely to be scum

FTFY. Sorta. Probably yuma.

Yes, I am trying to be chill about yet again being suspected/wagoned D1. I am hoping it is a compliment that scum mislynch me (if that's what's happening). Correcting EFHW's misleading statement about my actions was required.

[Voltaire]

Sorry, still on my phone, very busy weekend.

But what more is there really to say? With the deadline looming, I am happy with a chairs vote. I wasn't particularly convinced by his defense just now. Definitely phone posting sucks, and I can sympathize; I'm doing it right now. But you can't hide behind that.

If nothing else, it seems like he doesn't want to play the game any more. Or maybe this AtE is the desperate final throes of scum.

Care to weigh in today post-chairs stuff?

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Yes yes I was just getting to it. I have one more class this morning and then I'll post something serious around lunchtime.

[Voltaire]

Yuma, what's the case for townWalrus again?

[Voltaire]

I think I will be voting for EFHW, Robz, Walrus, or faust today (I've removed Eevee).

[mail-mi]

Voltaire comes out of that exchange much scummier than Yuma, and Faust probably isn't going through, so vote: Voltaire.

Why. Please give a reason.

Mostly a feeling from skimming it over. I am currently in school.

Also, tou have a town read on me. That's not normal.

[Voltaire]

Also, tou have a town read on me. That's not normal.

The one time I hardcore tunneled you, I was scum.

And you're a town read with a D1 pass, btw, no further.

[mail-mi]

Also, tou have a town read on me. That's not normal.

The one time I hardcore tunneled you, I was scum.

And you're a town read with a D1 pass, btw, no further.

Bit you're usually up for a D1 mail-mi lynch. Your Townself is. It's not very scummy, it's weird bordering on scummy.

[Voltaire]

Also, tou have a town read on me. That's not normal.

The one time I hardcore tunneled you, I was scum.

And you're a town read with a D1 pass, btw, no further.

Bit you're usually up for a D1 mail-mi lynch. Your Townself is. It's not very scummy, it's weird bordering on scummy.

Paradoxically you bringing this up just makes me have a stronger town read on you.

[Robz888]

Voltaire, I feel like you are spinning, but not in a natural, townie sort of way.

[Voltaire]

Voltaire, I feel like you are spinning, but not in a natural, townie sort of way.

Ok, well what do you expect me to do? You haven't defined "natural" or "townie" in relation to any of my actions btw. I am doing what I think I should for town. It's deadline day, it's the first time I'm able to be active in 2 days, and woah there goes the wagon on me! Time to try to avoid at least one mislynch (me) then.

What's your scum narrative?

[Robz888]

Voltaire, I feel like you are spinning, but not in a natural, townie sort of way.

Ok, well what do you expect me to do? You haven't defined "natural" or "townie" in relation to any of my actions btw. I am doing what I think I should for town. It's deadline day, it's the first time I'm able to be active in 2 days, and woah there goes the wagon on me! Time to try to avoid at least one mislynch (me) then.

What's your scum narrative?

My scum narrative on you is this: You were playing town, participating, calling me out as scum as you usually do. You were pretty relaxed, you have a good pro-town reputation and were not under scrutiny. Some othewr candidate like faust or chairs looked likely to go down, and you had this typical vote on me.

Only, well, you realize you didn't justify it well enough, and unfortunately for you, other people are realizing it too. This at the same time that the chairs lynch unravels. Now you realize you could be in some trouble--you have to drastically step up your game! Quick, what do you do? What should you say? You're panicking. But you're more of an expert than that, so you're trying to panic naturally in the townie way. Well, it looks forced to me.

I don't know, sort of my gut reaction on you.

[yuma]

Playing devil's advocate, b/c I am also considering voting Voltaire, how would only voting Robz with a weak case be a scum strategy?

This is the answer I would give to yuma as to his vote on Voltaire. I have a hard time seeing it for this reason.

Frankly, I don't understand Voltaire's obsessed tunneling of me, but I'm used to it by now! Like I said, I think he has a bias toward me.

This feels so scummy to me.  There is one scum strategy that would fit this scenario, and that's hard-core bussing.

Nonsense. Entirely nonsense. Scum who do that on Day 1 are scum who lose. Trust me!

what do yuma and Eevee think?  You are our other vets.

I would probably agree with Robz. successful day1 bussing (so actually getting the lynch through, not just voting when there is no or only  minimal chance of being lynched) almost always results in a town loss. even in larger setups it is very hard to recover from. Because a player that does this eventually gets PoE pretty hard toward the end of day because the scum certainly aren't going to kill themselves... So if voltaire is scum I am more inclined to think robz is town. I mean.... Robz is capable of anything, but I think even he would be wary of doing something like that.

[yuma]

vote:  Voltaire.  Reread through all his posts.  There are several contradictions and virtually no case on Robz.  He defends chairs several times, interestingly, saying "of course" chairs is at bottom of his list b/c of phone posting.   But then says he is fine with chairs lynch.  I notice repeated aspersions cast against myself, Walrus, and yuma but never any vote, and the occasional jab at faust, Eevee or mail-mi.

I will say EFHW said a lot better some of the things I was trying to say much more succinctly. I agree with these points.

and I agree with the scum narrative that Robz just presented.

[Voltaire]

I don't know, sort of my gut reaction on you.

Do you have anything stronger than a gut reaction on me? I re-read you to see if you've been consistent about this and you did seem to have me as "not scummy" for most of the day.

[yuma]

Yuma, what's the case for townWalrus again?

This is where I came to a conclusion that I had more of a town read on Walrus... "case for town" isn't something that I really like. Because it isn't a case that he is town. I don't have time to make cases for people being town. I only have time to make cases for people being scum, so I went through and saw what points people were bringing up about walrus--so the scum cases on him--and analyzed them and saw nothing worthwhile. Nothing. Thus I gleaned more of a town read on him.

Add in that I think he is being the same Walrus--despite what a handful of others have said--as he has in previous games and until I see a drastic change or scum!Walrus successfully pulling off his town!meta I dont' think I will be inclined to lynch him, especially on day1.