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[EFHW]

talking about voting patterns... EFHW has only voted twice the entire day. For eevee and then for chairs. I do tend to find scarce voting to be scummy... see TwistedArcher last game when he only voted for sudgy all day long. But the fact that EFHW was not on either the walrus or robz L-1 wagons (although she vocally supported the Walrus one) somewhat negates that although that is also partially a byproduct of the scarcity of voting by her...

I did not "vocally support" the Walrus one.  I presented arguments for each side and said I could see going along with a Walrus lynch if that's where things ended up at the end of the day, but I hoped we would get a better case or find a better lynch candidate. (see below)

I feel like you are looking for reasons to paint me as mafia.  This is the thing I find scummy about your play in this game - It looks like you are systematically trying to weaken my influence and if that is true, it is very, very scummy.

re: Walrus, the case on him seems to be that he is a 1st time mafia making characteristic early mistakes:
1) He flip-flopped on a vote and seemed too reactive to pressure, as though he was scum worried about scrutiny. 
2) He seemed to ask for permission/validation re: his reads, again presumably b/c he is worried about critical scrutiny. 
3) To some people his tone feels different, less funny.

These are all consistent with the new mafia scenario.  I think they are also consistent with the "just emerging from nooby town status" scenario.  He could be new scum, or mafia could be taking advantage of his clumsy towniness to get a mislynch.

If we can't come to a consensus on anyone better, I could see myself going along with his being the lynch for today.  I hope we find either more on him or something better about someone else, though.

[EFHW]

Also note that Eevee has only one vote, placed 5 days ago.

I'd like to plob my vote down somewhere. Walrus's flipflopping on faust sememed like he wants to please the crowd, first finding him scummy but then changing his mind when yuma (?) voiced criticism on his reasons. That's more mafiay behavior in my opinion, especially a newer mafia would want to blend in with the crowd.

vote: walrus

[yuma]

I did not "vocally support" the Walrus one.  I presented arguments for each side and said I could see going along with a Walrus lynch if that's where things ended up at the end of the day, but I hoped we would get a better case or find a better lynch candidate. (see below)

That would be vocally supporting... saying you were ok with the lynch nut not joining it.

As an example I am vocally supporting the chairs wagon. I think faust is better, but if the support isn't there then I would be ok with it.

It isn't scummy to vocally support something... the whole sentence that you quote is me ultimately finding you townier because you were not on either the walrus or robz L1 wagons... so I am not sure what your worry is here...

[yuma]

Also note that Eevee has only one vote, placed 5 days ago.

I'd like to plob my vote down somewhere. Walrus's flipflopping on faust sememed like he wants to please the crowd, first finding him scummy but then changing his mind when yuma (?) voiced criticism on his reasons. That's more mafiay behavior in my opinion, especially a newer mafia would want to blend in with the crowd.

vote: walrus

Good observation.... scummy to only vote once all day long I think.

[yuma]

Post count going into the final day

1. WalrusMcFishSr - 18
2. Chairs - 18
3. Robz888 - 42
4. Voltaire - 53
5. Yuma - 71
6. EFHW - 43
7. Mail-Mi - 14
8. Eevee - 32
9. Faust - 29

Thoughts: our main candidates for a lynch at this point appear to be lurkers, so that is good. Eevee has been VLA so his posting has dropped. Interesting to note that faust has had 9 posts since I called him out for lurking, at that point he had 20 posts and noted that he only had 2 in the last 100 posts... (scummy response to increase the posting after being called out?) Other than those points I think everyone is about where I would expect them to be, but I still think a lynch in the lurker area would be best.

[Twistedarcher]

Vote Count 1.8:

Robz888(2) Voltaire, Faust,
WalrusMcFishSr (2): Eevee, Chairs
Faust(2): Yuma, mail-mi,
Chairs (3): Robz888, EFHW, Walrus

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 1 ends November 4 at 8:00 p.m.

[Robz888]

Chairs, are you going to get in here and defend yourself? I want to lynch you.

[chairs]

Chairs, are you going to get in here and defend yourself? I want to lynch you.

I'll just say this. I think Yuma has been unusually careful in his stances. Keep that in mind if you do lynch me.

[Robz888]

Chairs, are you going to get in here and defend yourself? I want to lynch you.

I'll just say this. I think Yuma has been unusually careful in his stances. Keep that in mind if you do lynch me.

Oh, I'm quite wary of yuma. But that doesn't help me parse you.

[yuma]

Chairs, are you going to get in here and defend yourself? I want to lynch you.

I'll just say this. I think Yuma has been unusually careful in his stances. Keep that in mind if you do lynch me.

Back that up. Right now. Back it up.

[mail-mi]

Yeah, not strongly opposed to a chairs lynch. Prefer Faust, but chairs is great.

[yuma]

Chairs, are you going to get in here and defend yourself? I want to lynch you.

I'll just say this. I think Yuma has been unusually careful in his stances. Keep that in mind if you do lynch me.

Back that up. Right now. Back it up.

Well looks like he has logged off w/o seeing my request to back up his statements. I don't like it, but that is the way it is. But I expect to see something immediately after he gets back on.

And still waiting for eevee to respond to the faust case.

[chairs]

I'm done dancing this number, loves. We're too good at it by half, and I really should have just outed (and I promise I will ensure I'm outed of anything until this while internet debacle is sorted). Let's just have ourselves a middling and whoever else of you is town can hopefully get something out of the flip.

Oh, and the yuma case is predicated on a couple posts where the surrounding discussion is about me but he appears to basically ignore that topic entirely. But again, phone posting sucks and I'm tired of making the game no fun for me or for the rest of you, so let's just end the day.

[chairs]

vote: chairs

Sorry I forgot that bit

[chairs]

Middling = mislynch

[Twistedarcher]

Vote Count 1.9:

Robz888(2) Voltaire, Faust,
WalrusMcFishSr (1): Eevee
Faust(2): Yuma, mail-mi,
Chairs (4): Robz888, EFHW, Walrus, Chairs

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 1 ends November 4 at 8:00 p.m.

[mail-mi]

Ummm... Intent to hammer, I guess?

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Sorry, still on my phone, very busy weekend.

But what more is there really to say? With the deadline looming, I am happy with a chairs vote. I wasn't particularly convinced by his defense just now. Definitely phone posting sucks, and I can sympathize; I'm doing it right now. But you can't hide behind that.

If nothing else, it seems like he doesn't want to play the game any more. Or maybe this AtE is the desperate final throes of scum.

[Robz888]

This is probably a mislynch. Unvote

Vote: EFHW

[Eevee]

I'm back. Trying to catch up with everything as soon as possible!

[faust]

This is probably a mislynch. Unvote

Vote: EFHW

...why? And why EFHW?

[faust]

Also note that Eevee has only one vote, placed 5 days ago.

I'd like to plob my vote down somewhere. Walrus's flipflopping on faust sememed like he wants to please the crowd, first finding him scummy but then changing his mind when yuma (?) voiced criticism on his reasons. That's more mafiay behavior in my opinion, especially a newer mafia would want to blend in with the crowd.

vote: walrus

I agree that this is scummy. But... I called out Eevee for exactly the same thing in RMM9, and he was town then.

[yuma]

Oh, and the yuma case is predicated on a couple posts where the surrounding discussion is about me but he appears to basically ignore that topic entirely. But again, phone posting sucks and I'm tired of making the game no fun for me or for the rest of you, so let's just end the day.

I have no idea what you are talking about here.... none.

and why didn't you back up your statement from before?

I am not asking for crazy quote trees... just some simple "yuma did this and this, so that is why I feel...

as for your AtE... if you really feel that you are making the game unfun (prohint: you aren't) you should /out. I would rather see you be replaced than see you willingly go along with a mislynch of yourself (if you are town). I am sure there are subs available. If you are town then what you are doing is selfish in selfvoting. Look, I don't want you to /out. I think you are doing fine aside from not answering questions when they are posed to you.

and remember... I am voting for faust right now and want to vote for faust right now if you can convince me you are town.... but don't selfvote. That is the only thing you have done thus far that made the game unfun.

[chairs]

unvote.  Mod, if a sub is available please sub me out.

[yuma]

unvote.  Mod, if a sub is available please sub me out.

Sorry that you feel you have to go... Like I said, I thought you were doing fine, but hopefully we will see you around soon for future games