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[mail-mi]

Also, before all the requisite balance complaints start (), I wanted to thank everyone who played this game for an awesome time.  This was a fantastic game to mod and to spectate!

MVP is Jimmmmm, of course, for ridiculously good timing and usage of his night actions, and for escaping suspicion until LYLO, even with the Hobbit claim.

As for balance, the game went to Day 6, LYLO with 1 scum and 2 town, even with the Beloved Princess death and 5 scum in 13 players.  It's really hard to balance for later days, but I think this game was a success.

I'm not complaining. Oh and can I /in to lotr2 right now?

[Jimmmmm]

In terms of balance, I think it was pretty close. Hammerer is a pretty weak role, and JoAT is potentially extremely powerful, but also has a good chance of coming to nothing. Also, Town had lots of ways to PoE.

[Eevee]

Also, before all the requisite balance complaints start (), I wanted to thank everyone who played this game for an awesome time.  This was a fantastic game to mod and to spectate!

MVP is Jimmmmm, of course, for ridiculously good timing and usage of his night actions, and for escaping suspicion until LYLO, even with the Hobbit claim.

As for balance, the game went to Day 6, LYLO with 1 scum and 2 town, even with the Beloved Princess death and 5 scum in 13 players.  It's really hard to balance for later days, but I think this game was a success.

I dont mean to complain, as the game was awesome and you are a great mod, but you know, with Robz's vengekill the BP is guaranteed to get killed at some point and town got sort of very lucky with scum killing each other and Robz betraying not only us but also the Orcs.

Still, Jimmm played impressive, I've always said he is a beast at playing scum. I dont know if I could have gotten it but I guess this loss is on me. Sorry guys! I would have gone for Jimmm without that damn investigation result.

[Galzria]

I'll take that hat, Galz.

*Sends WS a hat*

Need a knife and fork too, or just gonna use your hands?

[Archetype]

I'm pretty proud of myself that I got the whole scum are the minority of the race-claims thing right! Still can't believe that Jimmmmm was the Dragon. Eevee was soooo scummy in my eyes the last day.

[sudgy]

In terms of balance, I think it was pretty close. Hammerer is a pretty weak role, and JoAT is potentially extremely powerful, but also has a good chance of coming to nothing. Also, Town had lots of ways to PoE.

Or it can be negative, like when you kill yourself.....

[Eevee]

In terms of balance, I think it was pretty close. Hammerer is a pretty weak role, and JoAT is potentially extremely powerful, but also has a good chance of coming to nothing. Also, Town had lots of ways to PoE.

Or it can be negative, like when you kill yourself.....

That was amusing, although you were going to die anyways.

[mail-mi]

In terms of balance, I think it was pretty close. Hammerer is a pretty weak role, and JoAT is potentially extremely powerful, but also has a good chance of coming to nothing. Also, Town had lots of ways to PoE.

Or it can be negative, like when you kill yourself.....

You can get the imaginary morgrim award for the self hammer.

[Axxle]

I think this will be my last RMM game, way too swingy, and hidden things like the symmetry of this game don't seem to be taken into consideration, it made setup speculation hugely way too advantageous for my liking and the fakeclaims actually detrimental.

[Archetype]

Still, Jimmm played impressive, I've always said he is a beast at playing scum. I dont know if I could have gotten it but I guess this loss is on me. Sorry guys! I would have gone for Jimmm without that damn investigation result.

I feel like I have to take some blame too.

I was really sure that there were no more scum after Robz, but I probably should have just waited. But I doubt we would have caught Jimmmmm anyway.

[Jimmmmm]

I was actually please that sudgy self-hammered. That day needed to end as soon as possible.

[mail-mi]

I think this will be my last RMM game, way too swingy, and hidden things like the symmetry of this game don't seem to be taken into consideration, it made setup speculation hugely way too advantageous for my liking and the fakeclaims actually detrimental.

Don't complain cuz ur team lost, Axxle! This was fun!

[Jimmmmm]

Also, I want to point out that Orcs got super unlucky with the Hobbit claim.

[Axxle]

Very well done Jimm.  I think that was pretty perfect play.

[ashersky]

should I have gotten it? The race claims.. 

Both scum teams were given races to fake claim that could not be countered.  Why Morgrim went with what he did I have no clue.

[liopoil]

Wow, awesome game, was fun to watch. I think the game was balanced. the only thing I'd change is to take the vengekilll away from the traitor. it doesn't help the traitor at all because he loses anyway, just lets him kingmake. and any imbalance against town would be fixed by doing that too. Jimmmmm, why didn't you quickhammer mail-mi right away?

[Axxle]

should I have gotten it? The race claims.. 

Both scum teams were given races to fake claim that could not be countered.  Why Morgrim went with what he did I have no clue.

Well they couldn't really counter a "human" claim either.

[mail-mi]

Wow, awesome game, was fun to watch. I think the game was balanced. the only thing I'd change is to take the vengekilll away from the traitor. it doesn't help the traitor at all because he loses anyway, just lets him kingmake. and any imbalance against town would be fixed by doing that too. Jimmmmm, why didn't you quickhammer mail-mi right away?

Suspense probably.

[WinterSpartan]

Blah. I think I ended up being negative utility that game despite my best efforts :/ Sorry, town...

[mail-mi]

And you guys could have at least waited for me to post/vote!

[ashersky]

Also, before all the requisite balance complaints start (), I wanted to thank everyone who played this game for an awesome time.  This was a fantastic game to mod and to spectate!

MVP is Jimmmmm, of course, for ridiculously good timing and usage of his night actions, and for escaping suspicion until LYLO, even with the Hobbit claim.

As for balance, the game went to Day 6, LYLO with 1 scum and 2 town, even with the Beloved Princess death and 5 scum in 13 players.  It's really hard to balance for later days, but I think this game was a success.

I dont mean to complain, as the game was awesome and you are a great mod, but you know, with Robz's vengekill the BP is guaranteed to get killed at some point and town got sort of very lucky with scum killing each other and Robz betraying not only us but also the Orcs.

Still, Jimmm played impressive, I've always said he is a beast at playing scum. I dont know if I could have gotten it but I guess this loss is on me. Sorry guys! I would have gone for Jimmm without that damn investigation result.

The Vengekill was something I went back and forth on, but in the end I decided that the Traitor really was in a tough spot.  Also, in case his PM wasn't clear, if he was recruited, he lost the vengekill and BP, so he would just be a scum roleblocker at that point, which is of course strong.

I think not making it clear to both scum teams that there was only one traitor and that he would make their team stronger may have played into neither team gunning for him.  So maybe that was a mistake on my part.

[Eevee]

should I have gotten it? The race claims.. 

Both scum teams were given races to fake claim that could not be countered.  Why Morgrim went with what he did I have no clue.

No, but I could have gotten Jimmm because of the race claims! People probably stopped reading my posts at some point, but during my flight home I was VERY convinced it had to be Jimmm because of the race claims (mail-mi's made sense, Jimmm's didnt).

[ashersky]

should I have gotten it? The race claims.. 

Both scum teams were given races to fake claim that could not be countered.  Why Morgrim went with what he did I have no clue.

Well they couldn't really counter a "human" claim either.

True.  I just wanted to be sure there was something other than "orc" and "dragon" available to you.

[ashersky]

Blah. I think I ended up being negative utility that game despite my best efforts :/ Sorry, town...

No way.  You were doing the right things, and caught sudgy.  Jimmmmm's timing was just perfect.

That's the built-in swing to a JOAT...you waste your powers or they work out perfectly.

[Eevee]

Wow, awesome game, was fun to watch. I think the game was balanced. the only thing I'd change is to take the vengekilll away from the traitor. it doesn't help the traitor at all because he loses anyway, just lets him kingmake. and any imbalance against town would be fixed by doing that too. Jimmmmm, why didn't you quickhammer mail-mi right away?

Suspense probably.

Dramatic! I liked it.

Blah. I think I ended up being negative utility that game despite my best efforts :/ Sorry, town...

Well, now you know my friendly attitude towards you wasn't faked. I think you played well, Jimm just crushed you with his joat-choices. You got sudgy for us!

And you guys could have at least waited for me to post/vote!

Jimmm was so anti-Eevee all the time I thought I'd better ride the momentum of him trusting me while it lasts. Meh, maybe it should have actually been a red flag..