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[Jimmmmm]

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[Eevee]

Reading your reread of me felt like you making a case against me, not like you trying to make up your mind about me.

I guess to some extent I'm started to convince myself that you are the scum, so I understand what you mean. But I think also it's mostly just wording. I mean, I said, "Lining up another non-teammate as someone to blame for tomorrow's lynch", when I equally could have said, "This looks like he might be lining up another non-teammate as someone to blame for tomorrow's lynch." Sometime I just want to omit the "this looks like it could be" in favour of typing less words.

"He is either a townie trying to make up his mind or scum lining up another mislynch" would at least seem like you are considering the option of me being town. Eh. Are you leaning towards voting me because I'm scummy or because mail-mi is towny?

[Jimmmmm]

Eevee, if you're Town, don't despair yet. I still have the whole game's worth of re-reading mail-mi to do.

[Jimmmmm]

Reading your reread of me felt like you making a case against me, not like you trying to make up your mind about me.

I guess to some extent I'm started to convince myself that you are the scum, so I understand what you mean. But I think also it's mostly just wording. I mean, I said, "Lining up another non-teammate as someone to blame for tomorrow's lynch", when I equally could have said, "This looks like he might be lining up another non-teammate as someone to blame for tomorrow's lynch." Sometime I just want to omit the "this looks like it could be" in favour of typing less words.

"He is either a townie trying to make up his mind or scum lining up another mislynch" would at least seem like you are considering the option of me being town. Eh. Are you leaning towards voting me because I'm scummy or because mail-mi is towny?

I understand that, but at this stage of the game it doesn't really seem worth it to write the same "This looks like it could be" over and over again. I mean, if mail-mi is Town then I absolutely need to convince him that you are scum, and otherwise what he actually thinks doesn't mean one iota. So yes, one of you has to be scum, and I am leaning one way, but I certainly haven't made my mind up yet.
I'm leaning towards voting you because I can see the scum Eevee scenario in my head. In some sense I'm hoping it's you because I've had a scumread on you since Day 1, but I obviously need to be careful to not let wanting to be right cloud my judgement. At this stage I'm pretty neutral on mail-mi, and if he's scum then hopefully a re-read of him will change things in a pretty massive way, and in that case you need to help that happen.

[Eevee]

Okay. That's fair. Frustration gone, will to win this game back!

[Eevee]

I'd just like to point out that the fact that mail-mi is sort of neutral in both of our minds is actually a very coherent scum narrative. He got caught in the storm of two ents and then claimed a half doctor after Destierros flip. He didnt really do anything too memorable after that, right?

You were picking my posts apart pretty harshly. A lot of stuff I can be persecuted over, sure. But isn't that exactly the kind of stuff an active and careless townie leaves behind? I just typed what first came to mind, didn't ever hold anything back. No wonder it's easy to find inconsistencies, but I dont think those were the scummy kind. Doesn't a town Eevee narrative make just as much sense?

I sort of hate this because I do see where you come from in that if you weren't cleared by WS, I'd be all over lynching you. Mail-mi's claim and everything DOES fit perfectly. If he is scum, he has played well. I should really finish my reread to see if WS actually cleared you..  Well, my suspicion on you is mostly that claiming bulletproof is so damn scummy (it's a go-to fakeclaim!). Mail-mi's choices of doctoring targets are suspect as well, as is his whole "I dont want to reveal who I doctored last two nights" today. I even asked him about it and he dodged it completely unless I'm mistaken.

Drats, should just finish that reread. Been just super busy even after coming back. Should stop putting it off, town just needs to do their due diligence in these lylo situations. I really feel it's a key to choosing right.

[Jimmmmm]

Just one kill again probably means we wiped out the only dragon?

Makes sense as something he would say if he was a Dragon.

I kind of want to be lynched less and less because raerae could be very well be a lying scum. Has she been cleared of being a dragon? I'm forgetting what investigations we have.

Opinion on raerae seems to have flipped back again.

I'd like to be investigated as well.  Just do what you think will catch scum/avoid a mislynch I guess. Chances are two are going to die in the night if Robz was being truthful,
so not sure if we'll ever get your results.

Why would you not want actual scum to be investigated?

Cops, if you arent scum, try to stay alive and investigate people who don't die.

I don't know that this is particularly scummy or whatever, but "try to stay alive"? Brilliant advice to people who have no control whatsoever over whether or not they stay alive.

There really isn't much that I could find worth noting from Eevee on Day 4. Most of it was arguing for a Robz lynch, which I think was certainly the Towny thing to do.

[Eevee]

You note a lot of things that make sense for me to say as a dragon. Maybe, but don't they also make sense for a townie trying to figure it out?

opinion on raerae flipped a lot. Classic brain versus gut dilemma, she felt scummy but the evidence got me to her towniness eventually.

the "try to stay alive" thing was a funny joke! I thought that them investigating likely night kill targets such as each other being a bad idea was worth pointing out. in that point it was unclear if there was going to be one or two nights.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 6.7:

Not Voting (3): Eevee, mail-mi, Jimmmmm

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch.

The day will end on April 8, 2013, at 9:00 p.m. forum time.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 6.8:

Not Voting (3): Eevee, mail-mi, Jimmmmm

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch.

The day will end on April 8, 2013, at 9:00 p.m. forum time.

[ashersky]

We're coming up on 24 hours with no posts.  Prods going out soon.

[Jimmmmm]

Wow, ash really wants us to get this game done.

[Eevee]

I'll finish my reread this morning unless something comes up.

[Eevee]

So here's why I'm inclined to believe Eevee.

The narrative for last night that we've been assuming is that scum targeted Jimmmm but mail-mi doctored. This is possible, but I don't see any real reason they'd have hit Jimmmm.

I find it much more likely that scum targeted Archetype last night, in hopes of skipping a day. So why is he not dead? Well, maybe there's a doctor or roleblocker we don't yet know about (don't claim if so, though!) - or, just maybe, Eevee as the princess' guard acted in some way to protect Archetype.

This makes far more sense to me, honestly - because it explains the lack of scum kill and fits with the claimed roles, without requiring anything we don't know about. And, especially after a "Faith Healer" had died, I certainly see scum shooting at Archetype as far more likely than scum shooting at Jimmmm.

Looking for where I was, stumbled upon this.-

[mail-mi]

I've done some retreading, but I'm on my iPod so I can't finish it right now.

[Eevee]

Jimmmmm is not a dragon, for whatever that's worth. I still would really, really like to see a claim from him.

Okay, so we didnt remember this wrong. This combined with the fact that sudgy was a dragonkind hammerer (I think he needs more buffing if he is a sk) I guess means I just have to vote for mail-mi. Are we all online?

[Eevee]

Eevee has played lots of Mafia games, and so I wouldn't put any kind of trick past him. Including pretending to be my guard. I do somewhat believe him because of the missing kill night 1, but you never know. Eevee is one slippery dude and his claim was convenient too.

I think one of three things happened: the Orcs targeted me, or Eevee is Town and they targeted Arch, or Robz is Town and Axxle took the kill.

This is referring to night one and missing a kill. I think it's very likely Archetype got targeted and mail-mi is scum. I guess the dragon-team could have hit Axxle too.

[Jimmmmm]

I guess the dragon-team could have hit Axxle too.

What do you mean?

[Eevee]

Nvm I got confused. I thought Robz was a jailkeeper, but he was a roleblocker. So scratch that, either mail-mi is what he claims and his half doctor saved you, or I am what I claim and my protection saved Archetype (from your perspective).

Also, Robz's final night he claims he had blocked mail-mi (which made me clear mail-mi at the time, as there was a night kill). However, someone unexplainedly blocked raerae who didnt get an investigation result. Robz was a part of a scum team he didnt know, so seems pretty clear he was lying about targeting mail-mi and actually blocked raerae (so mail-mi's kill went through, killing Kooshie).

[Eevee]

I can't not Vote: mail-mi. May god have mercy on us all.

[Jimmmmm]

I see the vote and I'm not voting just yet.

[Jimmmmm]

Although I must say Eevee is being very Towny at the moment.

Eevee, don't forget that I'm Bulletproof.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 6.9:

mail-mi (1): Eevee

Not Voting (2): mail-mi, Jimmmmm

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch.

The day will end on April 8, 2013, at 9:00 p.m. forum time.

[Eevee]

So Jimmm is conftown now, great.

[Eevee]

I just let out a huuuuge sigh of relief.