and now whether or not Jimmm can be marquis (since he can't be MU)
Like I mentioned before my main concerns with Jimmm stemmed from me thinking that he might be MU. As such I haven't spent much time considering him as Marquis. But Robz seems to think there is something there...
Early post on sparky--remember him? themunch became him to remind everyone--about how he was lurking. This was the first in a series of posts after jimmmm had made his case on eevee and started to turn from it.
Jimmmm votes Glooble along with a handful of others and also unvotes because of Glooble's reaction...
and basically had no other interaction with munch or glooble day1
Day2:
and I didn't see anything about either of them day2.
Day3:
says this about Glooble:
I get the case on Glooble, and I think it has merit, especially considering we've been lynching more vocal players, and they end up being Town. Glooble has played a fairly "safe" game, although has started contributing more reads. I guess I would put Glooble down as slightly scummy for now, and keep my eye on him.
and this:
Okay, not really sure where to go with this game at this point, so I'll just put down some thoughts.
I think it's most likely that we have 3-5 scum in the game. I guess 6 is possible, but seems unlikely. That means with Galz gone, there are 2-4 scum in {ash, Robz, yuma, Glooble, liopoil, mcmc, theorel, Munch, Dsell}. I think Dsell is probably Town. I also think theorel is probably Town, although I'm less sure about that. I do think that Robz and mcmc are almost definitely on the same team, and at this stage I'm thinking Town. And Robz seems certain that ash is Town. Granted that's a lot of assumptions, but if I go with that then that leaves me with 2-4 scum in {yuma, Glooble, lio, Munch}
where he puts both glooble and themunch into potential scum category.
another quote regarding glooble--and later themunch... where he just doesn't find glooble to be scummy.
I re-read Glooble, and as much as I wanted him to be scummy so that I could feel good about supporting the lynch of someone who's not me, I just didn't. His lurking seems like genuine busyness (although I could be more sympathetic than most to that given how little time I've seemed to have to play Mafia lately), and when he has been posting, he just read like a Townie who wants to contribute but is a little lost at times from being a bit behind. And unless there's something I missed, I haven't found any of the arguments on him terribly convincing either. So while I'd obviously prefer his lynch than mine, he doesn't look like a great candidate to me.
But we obviously need to decide on someone before deadline, preferably before a soft deadline. So I don't know. I think I should take a closer look at yuma and Munch.
and instead votes for lio.
Okay, I re-read lio for an alternative to Glooble. While he hasn't said anything in particular to make me think he's scum, he seems to have played a very safe game, not putting himself out there terribly much. Seeing as though the loud talkers all seem to be flipping Town, it seems likely that there is scum in this game who is trying not to be controversial. So while there's no one in particular who I think has a very high chance of being scum, I will Vote: liopoil since I think he has more chance of flipping scum than Glooble.
Of course, I'd rather lynch Glooble than no one, so if they're our only choices I'd be willing to hammer.
So the next step is to consider whether or not Jimmm is possible as scum. That is from my perspective is it possible for him to be the x-shot JK/RB? And I guess it is. He did claim the 1-shot doc--the claim that is hardest to substantiate--and relatively similar to JK in that it can prevent a death. I think it is also worth looking at what the balance of the whole set up is and see if we really believe that joth added a doc to the setup for town or if he potentially added a JK to a scum team... because as often happens there is a little truth in every lie.
So confirmed town (not including Robz, yuma or Jimmm's claim into this, but will in a minute) had 3 cops, 1-shot vig, IC, two neighbors, 1-shot death proof
MU: Rolecop, Bomb, X?
Marquis: Neighbor, 1-shot Roleblocker, X?
If you add in my role it is: 3 Cops, 1-shot vig, IC, 2 Neighbors, 1-shot death proof, 1-LR
MU: Rolecop, Bomb, X?
Marquis: Neighbor, 1-shot Roleblocker, X?
If you add in Jimmmm's role it is: 3 Cops, 1-shot Vig, IC, 2 Neighbors, 1-shot Death proof, Beloved Princess with 1-shot Doc.
So just in looking at this, did town really need another 1-shot doc, or did another scum team need another 1-shot JK? But we also have to ask the question of whether or not BP makes sense as a scum role... I don't understand what would happen... So Jimmm would get lynched, flip as scum and would town still skip the next day?