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[Insomniac]

They don't have day chat Galz. And responding by attacking my ability to read people is not a way to win me over.

[Robz888]

Hi guys, I'm here now.

My brother is playing way harder than last blitz game. He reads experienced scum to me. So I disagree with you there, Ins. I do agree with you about Galzria, though.

Joth is town as always. Not sure on anyone else.

[Insomniac]

But even ignoring that for a moment Galz. Respond to the rest of my case.

Why do you have 2 posts?
Do you deny scum would try to throw at least a little suspicion on Eevee as it looked like I was suspicious of Eevee?

[Galzria]

They don't have day chat Galz. And responding by attacking my ability to read people is not a way to win me over.

Oh. Didn't realize they didn't.

Well whatever. Apparently trying to look for wholes so scum can't laugh their assess off to an easy win is now an OMGSCUUUUM move.

Whatever. Good job Insomniac.

Vote: Galzria

I'll hammer whoever the hell you want, I don't give a damn, but if you're directing I'll give 90% odds they're town

[TheMunch]

I dont share insomniacs town read on Joth.  Joth is one of my scum reads right now.  Along with Eevee.  They aren't the strongest but they exist.

PPE: Galz self votes?  Vote: Galzria

[Eevee]

I agree with everything in Ins's read post except the idea that you could get meaningful read from how people react to breaking the game. okay maybe I understand seeing making it happen with your contributions towny, but other than that.. some people just don't want to break the game.

PPE 7

[Insomniac]

They don't have day chat Galz. And responding by attacking my ability to read people is not a way to win me over.

Oh. Didn't realize they didn't.

Well whatever. Apparently trying to look for wholes so scum can't laugh their assess off to an easy win is now an OMGSCUUUUM move.

Whatever. Good job Insomniac.

Vote: Galzria

I'll hammer whoever the hell you want, I don't give a damn, but if you're directing I'll give 90% odds they're town

Again how about the rest of my case. And seriously attacking my play skill is not gonna win me over here. Nor is a self vote.


UNVOTE: GALZRIA

[jotheonah]

Holy crazy defensive selfvote, Batman! I think we've caught a live one.

It can't be this easy.

[Insomniac]

What the hell Munch we aren't hammering Galz first. We're hammering Cuzz first and Galz is going to do it.

[Galzria]

But even ignoring that for a moment Galz. Respond to the rest of my case.

Why do you have 2 posts?
Do you deny scum would try to throw at least a little suspicion on Eevee as it looked like I was suspicious of Eevee?

No, I think you're being an idiot here. You ask a question and I give an honest response. Next time I'll just lie through my teeth since apparently in your double think world that's what townies should do.

As for the two posts? Maybe you haven't noticed but I've been busy everywhere recently and my entire forum timehas been down. Last night was entirely focused on XIX. Sorry, I'll schedule lynches in all my other games to be more convenient with YOUR time schedule.

[mcmcsalot]

Wow this is a crazy overreaction from galz, I agree galz shoul hammer cuzz and galz should be out second day kill hammered by possibly joth, possibly robz

[Robz888]

What the hell Munch we aren't hammering Galz first. We're hammering Cuzz first and Galz is going to do it.

Do you want us to vote for Cuzz now? I'm not sure this is the best idea. What are the odds he's scum and not participating at all? Would he really do that to his scumbuddy? I can see being in a funk and not wanting to play, but not if you're in a super serious scum and you're scum alongside exactly one other person who is going to hate you forever for this.

[Galzria]

They don't have day chat Galz. And responding by attacking my ability to read people is not a way to win me over.

Oh. Didn't realize they didn't.

Well whatever. Apparently trying to look for wholes so scum can't laugh their assess off to an easy win is now an OMGSCUUUUM move.

Whatever. Good job Insomniac.

Vote: Galzria

I'll hammer whoever the hell you want, I don't give a damn, but if you're directing I'll give 90% odds they're town

Again how about the rest of my case. And seriously attacking my play skill is not gonna win me over here. Nor is a self vote.


UNVOTE: GALZRIA

I really don't give a damn about winning you over. That's not going to happen anyway. Nope, once Insomniac has decided that's it. At this point I'm more interested in pointing out how terrible your case is. One of these times you'll figure out that the only people you have EVER "tricked" are town.

[mcmcsalot]

I sorta agree with robz on this, but cuzz isn't helping us any as town, any thoughts of getting cuzz on to hammer galz instead?

[TheMunch]

All I know is my plan involved us working to find a lynch and Insomniac gets to pick who to hammer.  I'm not to sheep Insoms who to kill blindly though.  I want to talk about galz more first.  Insom, why did Galz self vote make you unvote him?

[Eevee]

Galz, you sort of should so that given this game has 28 hour days.. Being unavailable for most of that is most unfortunate and reasonable grounds for suspicion,
I think.

I think Insomniac finding your response to me scummy was also reasonable. I don't know if you remember but I too heavily disagreed with it.

Also, chill out it's just a game! if you are town it's obviously unfortunate, but it's not like ins is after you because of personal reasons.

ppe 4 it's IMPOSSIBLE to keep up on phone

[TheMunch]

I agree with Mcmc.  Id rather see it the other way, Cuzz hammering Galz.  Last time I remember Galz self voting was XV where he was SK.

[Insomniac]

They don't have day chat Galz. And responding by attacking my ability to read people is not a way to win me over.

Oh. Didn't realize they didn't.

Well whatever. Apparently trying to look for wholes so scum can't laugh their assess off to an easy win is now an OMGSCUUUUM move.

Whatever. Good job Insomniac.

Vote: Galzria

I'll hammer whoever the hell you want, I don't give a damn, but if you're directing I'll give 90% odds they're town

Again how about the rest of my case. And seriously attacking my play skill is not gonna win me over here. Nor is a self vote.


UNVOTE: GALZRIA

I really don't give a damn about winning you over. That's not going to happen anyway. Nope, once Insomniac has decided that's it. At this point I'm more interested in pointing out how terrible your case is. One of these times you'll figure out that the only people you have EVER "tricked" are town.

Thats not true at all I second guessed myself in ZM whatever it was and lossed the game because of it.  I second guessed myself in MXVI (I had a vote for ehunt all ready) I second guess myself all the time and the thing is you KNOW that because you've been there. As for fitting to my schedule I mean really? This isn't about my schedule at all but it would be nice if you popped in and said a few words more than 2 posts. I haven't really been following XIX but I can't imagine you couldn't have popped in at all considering Eevee, Robz and Joth are all involved in that game and have poked in.

[Galzria]

Here's something actually useful though. I won't be a complete Dick to the rest of town:

Joth is my #1 scum read. It was (I think) post #151 that he gave his read on Eevee and parrot'ed me almost word for word.

He then made a future post about how scum would "think" that just reaked of "My buddies are lurking, but no way scum would do that. Let's all think how scum would think here!" - It was absolutely a classic scum redirect post.

[Insomniac]

All I know is my plan involved us working to find a lynch and Insomniac gets to pick who to hammer.  I'm not to sheep Insoms who to kill blindly though.  I want to talk about galz more first.  Insom, why did Galz self vote make you unvote him?

It didn't. you putting him at l-1 did.

[mcmcsalot]

Galz I already mentioned sheeping insom is not the plan were not following his orders, why would you jump to this defensive position

[jotheonah]

So this hammer thing:


Best case scenario - Cuzz-Galz scum team. Galz hammers, we win. So obviously Galz will try to talk his way out of the hammer. Presumably in that case we let someone else hammer and then we lynch Galz.

Galz is scum, Cuzz is town - Galz will happily hammer, and we'll have to lynch Galz (if we still think he's scum)

Galz is town, Cuzz is scum - Galz may or may not agree to hammer. If he does, he'll die (which is bad, although it does save us mislynching him). If he doesn't, he'll look really scummy and we'll lynch him.

Both of them are town - We'll probably still end up lynching Galz next.

So it seems to me like in almost any scenario, we end up having to do a Galz lynch anyway. The only scenario that lets us kill him is one where he's town, and therefore we don't want to. Why is this a good plan?

[Insomniac]

Here's something actually useful though. I won't be a complete Dick to the rest of town:

Joth is my #1 scum read. It was (I think) post #151 that he gave his read on Eevee and parrot'ed me almost word for word.

He then made a future post about how scum would "think" that just reaked of "My buddies are lurking, but no way scum would do that. Let's all think how scum would think here!" - It was absolutely a classic scum redirect post.

Fuck it I have to step away for a while because, I'm getting super angry at how Galz is reacting.

[mcmcsalot]

Also joth is my number two scum read, galz would you hammer joth and joth would you hammer galz,

[TheMunch]

Wait, I put him at L-1?  I thought there was 9 town.  Insom voted, Eevee voted, and I voted?  Doesn't it take 5 to lynch?  Maybe I missed something.