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[Archetype]

He's not hammerable anymore because I voted Jimmmmm.

Oh. Probably need to read back farther.

Naw, I'll LoseVote: Jimmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Gladiator seems more like a scum role anyway.

[ashersky]

losevote: jimmmmm in case I am not there.  Get rid of leer, follow the cop with win vote über doctoring, win!

[ashersky]

mods: this is Mew(two) requesting a vote count!

[Axxle]

I think he was probably hammered by now.

[TheMunch]

Sorry, was focused on XVI.  Doing vote count now.  I think thats hammer but I'm doublechecking.

[TheMunch]

Vote Count 1.7
LoseVote
Axxle (0):
cayvie (1): Tables
Galzria (0):
{Loser} Jimmmmm (7): Robz888, Cayvie, Galzria, Jotheonah, Dsell, Archetype, Ashersky
Robz888 (2): Jimmmmm, Jorbles
Eevee (0):

Not voting (3): Eevee, Insomniac, Axxle

WinVote--LOCKED
{Winner} Tables (7): Tables, Eevee, Axxle, Insomniac, Jorbles, Archetype, Galzria
Jimmmmm (1): Jimmmmm
Eevee (1): Dsell
Axxle (0):
Cayvie (0):
Robz888 (0):
Galzria (0):

Not voting (4): cayvie, Robz888, Ashersky, jotheonah

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lock a count.

Lynch deadline: Thursday, December 27th, 4:00pm forum time

Machop leers intently at the listed pokemon.  They are now the center of attention and subsequently the only valid vote targets for the rest of the day.

[TheMunch]

Thread Locked.

[TheMunch]

"There's no way an innocent Bagon could have killed our master," you all shout in unison.  This only makes you nervous as fingers begin to be pointed.  Over the roar of the crowd, an otherwise silent machop quiets the cacophony with the look of a wronged mother.  "But Machop, who gives you the right to decide who we kill?" Deino asks with a chomp of his teeth.  "Yeah!" everyone agrees.  "Bagon, get 'em!"  Bagon lowers his head, and with one last glance over at Pidgey he charges at Machop.  Before he could say another word, the Companion Gladiator Machop's heart had stopped.  He was dead.

Please submit Night actions by 8pm Sunday December 23.

Night 1 Start!!

[TheMunch]

What? BAGON is evolving?
CONGRATULATIONS! Your BAGON has evolved into SHELGON!

[TheMunch]

Due to Christmas and Incompleteness of night action submissions, Night has been extended to 8pm Dec 26.

GET NIGHT ACTIONS IN!

[TheMunch]

The sun breaks.  Rays of light shine through the tall grass, and with it the smell of blood.  You look around trying to find where such a strong smell is coming from, only to find that the source is not one but two bodies.  In a clearing you find clawed into the fresh dirt the words "no regrets" right next to the Beloved Specialist TRAITOR Eevee.  Nearby you find the body of the Companion Mastermind Mew with a look of shock in his face.  Surely, such a look of innocence could not be on the face of your master's murderers.  The search must continue...

I nearly forgot the best part.  With two deaths that means two evolutions!

What? GASTLY is evolving?
CONGRATULATIONS! Your GASTLY has evolved into HAUNTER!

What? DEINO is evolving?
CONGRATULATIONS! Your DEINO has evolved into ZWEILOUS!


DAY 2 START!

[Tables]

Okay, so scum got shot, that's definitely a good thing right now, but it could mean either serial killer or vigilante, one of which is good and one is bad. Right now there's no point dwelling on those possibilities, we should just move on.

Okay, my reads based on yesterday... scum have done me a HUGE favor killing my main scumread, there were too many issues with Asherky's plan (it's like mine, except, with MUCH bigger risk/reward, and I was already pointing out the issues in my plan). Still the fact scum killed him makes me confident, they didn't like the plan either, which is a good sign.

Right I didn't post for a lot of the end of yesterday while I was catching up, I'm now looking back through my notes.

Galz seems very town to me, he's pointing out things that weaken his own position (359) which is typically a towntell. Could be faking, Galz is a good player, but I'm somewhat more confident in him than the average. His arguments were also very accurate and to the point (328, 353).

Looking back at my records for Eevee, I can't make out an awful lot. If anything, he was looking quite happy to set me up as scum. There's things I'm expecting based on this but I won't announce them. However...

Cayvie looks pretty bad to me right now. Firstly, the way Eevee was attacking him at first (147-160 or so) in retrospect looks somewhat like an early bus to set up distance between them, then there's the fact he sheeps the losevote on Robz pretty quickly (Eevee-305 & Cayvie-308).

I'm going to throw out a very early:
Winvote: Galzria
Losevote: Cayvie

For now.

Also for easy reference for those who don't know pokemon so well:
Player - Pokemon
Archetype - Aron (1/3)
Axxle - Totodile (1/3)
Ashersky - Mew (1/1)
Cayvie - Pidgey (1/3)
Dsell - Scyther (1/1)
Eevee - Eevee (1/2)
Galzria - Zweilous (2/3)
Insomniac - Haunter (2/3)
Jimmmmm - Machop (1/3)
Jorbles - Snorlax (1/1)
Jotheonah - Psyduck (1/2)
Robz888 - Cubone (1/2)
Tables - Shelgon (2/3)

[Tables]

Also can't find anything for (Beloved) Specialist, but for Mastermind there's a redirect to this.

Based on this, a new theory of what happened emerges. Ashersky took on Eevee as a mentee, and being killed, Eevee died with him. Of course this assumes Ashersky was a perfectly standard Mentor/Mastermind, but, that seems plausible to me.

[shraeye]

Vote Count 2.1
LoseVote
cayvie (1): Tables

Not voting (9): Archetype, Axxle, cayvie, Dsell, Galzria, Insomniac, Jorbles, jotheonah, Robz888

WinVote
Galzria (1): Tables

Not voting (9): Archetype, Axxle, cayvie, Dsell, Galzria, Insomniac, Jorbles, jotheonah, Robz888

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lock a count.

Lynch deadline: Tuesday, January 8th, 7:00pm forum time

[cayvie]

Okay, so scum got shot, that's definitely a good thing right now, but it could mean either serial killer or vigilante, one of which is good and one is bad. Right now there's no point dwelling on those possibilities, we should just move on.

Okay, my reads based on yesterday... scum have done me a HUGE favor killing my main scumread, there were too many issues with Asherky's plan (it's like mine, except, with MUCH bigger risk/reward, and I was already pointing out the issues in my plan). Still the fact scum killed him makes me confident, they didn't like the plan either, which is a good sign.

Right I didn't post for a lot of the end of yesterday while I was catching up, I'm now looking back through my notes.

Galz seems very town to me, he's pointing out things that weaken his own position (359) which is typically a towntell. Could be faking, Galz is a good player, but I'm somewhat more confident in him than the average. His arguments were also very accurate and to the point (328, 353).

Looking back at my records for Eevee, I can't make out an awful lot. If anything, he was looking quite happy to set me up as scum. There's things I'm expecting based on this but I won't announce them. However...

Cayvie looks pretty bad to me right now. Firstly, the way Eevee was attacking him at first (147-160 or so) in retrospect looks somewhat like an early bus to set up distance between them, then there's the fact he sheeps the losevote on Robz pretty quickly (Eevee-305 & Cayvie-308).

I'm going to throw out a very early:
Winvote: Galzria
Losevote: Cayvie

For now.

Also for easy reference for those who don't know pokemon so well:
Player - Pokemon
Archetype - Aron (1/3)
Axxle - Totodile (1/3)
Ashersky - Mew (1/1)
Cayvie - Pidgey (1/3)
Dsell - Scyther (1/1)
Eevee - Eevee (1/2)
Galzria - Zweilous (2/3)
Insomniac - Haunter (2/3)
Jimmmmm - Machop (1/3)
Jorbles - Snorlax (1/1)
Jotheonah - Psyduck (1/2)
Robz888 - Cubone (1/2)
Tables - Shelgon (2/3)

i kind of want to wait to respond to this; it feels like it's coming from scum, but, as per your day 1 plan, we're likely going to find out whether you're scum or not very quickly.

[Archetype]

Assuming there's a Cop of course.

If anyone's a Cop, tell us now. Tell us your investigations, then we'll winvote you.

[cayvie]

Assuming there's a Cop of course.

If anyone's a Cop, tell us now. Tell us your investigations, then we'll winvote you.

what

[Archetype]

I thought the plan was to keep winvoting the Cop to Doctor him while he keeps investigating.

[cayvie]

I thought the plan was to keep winvoting the Cop to Doctor him while he keeps investigating.

i thought the cop was supposed to investigate whoever we winvoted

[Archetype]

I thought the plan was to keep winvoting the Cop to Doctor him while he keeps investigating.

i thought the cop was supposed to investigate whoever we winvoted

I thought Ashersky suggested that we winvite the Cop for NK immunity.

But never mind, it's probably a bad idea. There could be redirectors and I think the Doctoring only works until they reach their final stage.

[Tables]

Mod question: Is it valid to winvote someone who has reached their final evolution? Will the be protected from nightkills?

I wasn't happy about this plan when I first read it but now the mafia (well, probably the mafia) killed Ashersky, it makes me a lot more confident that it's a good plan.

[jotheonah]

So the next step in the plan is for the Cop to claim?

Is that something we all want?

[Tables]

Stuff

i kind of want to wait to respond to this; it feels like it's coming from scum, but, as per your day 1 plan, we're likely going to find out whether you're scum or not very quickly.

Well it can't be 100% accurate, but we'll see what happens. I want you to post your reasons now. I find you suspicious based on your day 1 play, and you immediately (and for I think the first time all game) suddenly find me scummy. At the first point I could actually be voted for. That's... pretty suspicious, to say the least.

I think the cop claiming is probably the best course of action, BUT I would like my question above answered first. Although having said that this game is not going to be that long, so... eh.

[cayvie]

Stuff

i kind of want to wait to respond to this; it feels like it's coming from scum, but, as per your day 1 plan, we're likely going to find out whether you're scum or not very quickly.

Well it can't be 100% accurate, but we'll see what happens. I want you to post your reasons now. I find you suspicious based on your day 1 play, and you immediately (and for I think the first time all game) suddenly find me scummy. At the first point I could actually be voted for. That's... pretty suspicious, to say the least.

I think the cop claiming is probably the best course of action, BUT I would like my question above answered first. Although having said that this game is not going to be that long, so... eh.

yeah alright

i attack eevee day 1

eevee turns out to be scum

clearly i'm scum, you figured it out

[Robz888]

So the next step in the plan is for the Cop to claim?

Is that something we all want?

Fyi, in normal setups that include a Cop and Doctor for sure, that is the thing you are supposed to do.