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[AdamH]

I've seen a lot of different ways people organize their stuff when playing IRL. I've attached an image of the layout I use when playing. It's interesting because I'm CDO enough that there are lots of things I'm very particular about. I'll share them with you, and maybe you could share yours with me!

All of the components (tokens, mats, etc.) have their own spot. I never put the pirate ship tokens on the right, even if there are not VP tokens there.

When there are VP tokens available in a game, I give each player four ones and make the container of fives available to everybody. To denote 0-4, I just flag down the ones I have, so in the picture I would have 2 VP tokens plus any fives I have. I think this was the intent because there were exactly 16 ones included in my set, which is enough for a 4-player game.

One other thing I always do: I make sure all my cards face the same way when I discard them, and I shuffle so that none get flipped over. That way, when I draw my hand, it's always all face-up.

[Tables]

I don't see an attached picture.

I don't tend to be very particular about placing things like tokens and mats, but I almost always arrange things into two rows of 5, with cheapest cards on the left and most expensive on the right (it kinda peeves me that Goko almost does this, but does it in rows, so you can have e.g. $4 cards in the bottom right and top left corners, instead of in a single block)

[AdamH]

Not sure what's wrong with the picture, I can see it. Is anyone else having the same trouble?

The picture is just of my play area, not of the way the kingdom/supply is set up.

[Tables]

It says there's an attachment. I can't see it.

[DsnowMan]

I can see it fine. It's embedded inline, and I can also click to download. Wheeee.

It generally looks like what I do. But I'm only a little OCD, so I'm not going to make a picture.

[theory]

I can see the attachment.  Something wrong on your end, Tables?

[eHalcyon]

I can see the paper clip icon indicating an attachment, but there is no way for me to view or download it.  There is a sliver on the right side of the post, just barely visible.  Clicking it allows me to download it.  Maybe there is an issue with the forum layout or something.

[TWoos]

I couldn't see it either, until I highlighted the post, trying to select it.  Suddenly, the post scrolled left and there it was.  Very odd.

[thirtyseven]

OP and all else interested, I dug up the old thread about this very subject:
http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=1972.msg31264#msg31264

I can't see the picture attachment either, by the way. I'm on Google Chrome.

[Beyond Awesome]

I am also unable to see attachment.

[Young Nick]

I am also unable to see attachment.

Me neither.

[eHalcyon]

I couldn't see it either, until I highlighted the post, trying to select it.  Suddenly, the post scrolled left and there it was.  Very odd.

Ah, right.

The attachment used to show up below the main content of the post.  Not sure what has happened since.  Has the forum css been changed?

[Morgrim7]

i can see it fine now

[AdamH]

for your convenience:

http://www.adamhorton.com/files/dom_setup.png

[Morgrim7]

huh. I put anything anywhere. the decks and discards are to the right, and the play area is to the left though.

[Davio]

huh. I put anything anywhere. the decks and discards are to the right, and the play area is to the left though.

I usually shift my deck and discard locations at least 3 times throughout the game. 

[qmech]

When there are VP tokens available in a game, I give each player four ones and make the container of fives available to everybody. To denote 0-4, I just flag down the ones I have, so in the picture I would have 2 VP tokens plus any fives I have. I think this was the intent because there were exactly 16 ones included in my set, which is enough for a 4-player game.

If you use VP tokens in the natural way, but always change up to 5's when you can, then you also need a maximum of 16 VP tokens.

[AdamH]

If you use VP tokens in the natural way, but always change up to 5's when you can, then you also need a maximum of 16 VP tokens.

Understood. And of course I'm CDO about changing them out whenever I can, but since people rarely score 5 or more VP tokens in one turn, most others are happy to just continue to take ones the whole game. This is a nice way of forcing them to not do that.

Also, the "natural way" I find a little bit of a pain. I don't know of a way to score VP tokens that involves less movement than this, since you're either picking up ones off the table, which can be rough sometimes, or you're doing a lot of reaching to make change every once in a while.

[aaron0013]

For people using Chrome who are unable to see the OP's image, you have to scroll right.  If you can't do that, thy highlighting the post and moving your cursor to the right of the post.  It should scroll.

[Tables]

For people using Chrome who are unable to see the OP's image, you have to scroll right.  If you can't do that, thy highlighting the post and moving your cursor to the right of the post.  It should scroll.

This worked

[Polk5440]

I've seen a lot of different ways people organize their stuff when playing IRL. I've attached an image of the layout I use when playing. It's interesting because I'm CDO enough that there are lots of things I'm very particular about. I'll share them with you, and maybe you could share yours with me!

You're a collateralized debt obligation? jk

I like to have my draw and discards next to each other (discard just to the right of draw). I try to play actions/durations above or to the left of my deck. And I try to obey the suggested "durations descend" mechanic and keep two levels of play area when there are durations. How much space I have to work with on the table (depending on the number of players) matters, though.

All of the components (tokens, mats, etc.) have their own spot. I never put the pirate ship tokens on the right, even if there are not VP tokens there.

When I play with all three mats (Island, Pirate Ship, NV), they MUST all go in a row next to each other. They are all part of the same picture. I can't imagine splitting them up! I try to keep all mats in (VP mat, too) together in a space to the right of the play area and deck/discard. But it depends on the table space.

When there are VP tokens available in a game, I give each player four ones and make the container of fives available to everybody. To denote 0-4, I just flag down the ones I have, so in the picture I would have 2 VP tokens plus any fives I have. I think this was the intent because there were exactly 16 ones included in my set, which is enough for a 4-player game.

What a great idea!! We usually have a banker who trades 5 ones out when necessary, and it's kind of a pain.

[AdamH]

Ah. I don't carry around those mats with me, since it doesn't work well with my storage solution.

...and CDO is just OCD, but with the letters in the correct order 

[SirPeebles]

I always have my play area in front of me with my deck to the left and my discard to the right.  That way cards naturally flow from left to right.  Where everything else goes depends on where I'm playing, how much space is available, etc.

[shark_bait]

For me, the play area doesn't matter.  I'm usually playing on a small table where I don't have the luxury of organizing that.  What I am incredibly particular about is the set-up of the kingdom.
__________________________
     
C     P     D     E     C
                                (T)
P     G     S     C     P
   
K     K     K      K     K
                                (B)
K     K     K      K     K
__________________________

Victory on top, money underneath, followed by the kingdom cards.  The kingdom cards must be organized from most expensive to least expensive going from upper left to lower right.  If a bane (or any other action related extra pile) is present, it goes to the far right in between the two rows of kingdom cards.  Treasure related extra piles go in the treasure row.  My friends have learned to just let me do the set up and either get the starting decks prepared or hand me stacks.

[AdamH]

Usually when we're setting up the kingdom, I take the supply cards box, which contains everything except the kingdom cards, and my opponent(s) split up the three boxes full of kingdom cards. With two opponents, they can power through the kingdom cards by the time I'm done putting out the supply piles. With one opponent, he usually takes two kingdom card boxes and I do the third and he ends up waiting on me a bit. I keep the starting decks separated in the supply cards box. Yes, I realize that this means in 2/3 player games I'm not playing with enough copper in the supply, and yes, I realize I could remedy this by taking some extra treasure cards from Intrigue and adding them to the supply; but no, I do not care enough to do this.

Between games, I rarely touch the supply cards box, but if it needs touching I'm always the one to do it. It's very easy to miss that we need VP tokens or Trade Route tokens this game but I'm decent at catching those kind of things. The only danger of messing things up is when my opponent gets 12 kingdom victory cards out in a 2-player game (or puts cards away facing the wrong direction! AAH!)

I have an app that decides the kingdom for me, it's Dominion Shuffle by Joran Jessurun (for Android). I guess it's still getting updates, even though I thought it wasn't. I tried to get an Android App development environment set up on my home computer so I could either tweak that app or write my own, but that didn't work out and their tutorials/forums aren't competent/motivated enough to help me fix whatever is wrong. I'd like the app to put a little reminder at the bottom that VP Tokens will be used, Potions will be used, Curses will be used, etc. I'd also like for it to support veto mode, but alas...

Yeah I only get the curses out when they're needed. Less clutter helps me sleep at night. I know it's wrong, but you know what I always say: "If it feels good, do it." I get them out when Ambassador, Fairgrounds, and Watchtower are present (individually). I've never heard of someone buying a curse to help their Menageries draw, but if I see one log where it works, I'ma totally start doing it. Also, when someone is taking a long time to think about what they're going to buy, it's always fun to say "I can get the curses out if you want"

[eHalcyon]

Curses also help Harvest!

[AdamH]

Oh crap, I've invited a discussion on edge cases into this thread. What do I do? I really want to spawn another thread to talk about it now....

EDIT: Here's the link

[TWoos]

For me, the play area doesn't matter.  I'm usually playing on a small table where I don't have the luxury of organizing that.  What I am incredibly particular about is the set-up of the kingdom.
__________________________
     
C     P     D     E     C
     
P     G     S     C     P
   
K     K     K      K     K
                                (B)
K     K     K      K     K
__________________________

Victory on top, money underneath, followed by the kingdom cards.  The kingdom cards must be organized from most expensive to least expensive going from upper left to lower right.  If a bane (or any other action related extra pile) is present, it goes to the far right in between the two rows of kingdom cards.  Treasure related extra piles go in the treasure row.  My friends have learned to just let me do the set up and either get the starting decks prepared or hand me stacks.

Trash goes to the right also?

[shark_bait]

For me, the play area doesn't matter.  I'm usually playing on a small table where I don't have the luxury of organizing that.  What I am incredibly particular about is the set-up of the kingdom.
__________________________
     
C     P     D     E     C
     
P     G     S     C     P
   
K     K     K      K     K
                                (B)
K     K     K      K     K
__________________________

Victory on top, money underneath, followed by the kingdom cards.  The kingdom cards must be organized from most expensive to least expensive going from upper left to lower right.  If a bane (or any other action related extra pile) is present, it goes to the far right in between the two rows of kingdom cards.  Treasure related extra piles go in the treasure row.  My friends have learned to just let me do the set up and either get the starting decks prepared or hand me stacks.

Trash goes to the right also?

I am ashamed.... post edited with correct info.

[clb]

For me, the play area doesn't matter.  I'm usually playing on a small table where I don't have the luxury of organizing that.  What I am incredibly particular about is the set-up of the kingdom.
__________________________
     
C     P     D     E     C
     
P     G     S     C     P
   
K     K     K      K     K
                                (B)
K     K     K      K     K
__________________________

Victory on top, money underneath, followed by the kingdom cards.  The kingdom cards must be organized from most expensive to least expensive going from upper left to lower right.  If a bane (or any other action related extra pile) is present, it goes to the far right in between the two rows of kingdom cards.  Treasure related extra piles go in the treasure row.  My friends have learned to just let me do the set up and either get the starting decks prepared or hand me stacks.

Trash goes to the right also?

I am ashamed.... post edited with correct info.

I am sure I am just spacing it, but what is the last P in the $ row?
Plat Gold Silver Copper P?

[SirPeebles]

I am sure I am just spacing it, but what is the last P in the $ row?
Plat Gold Silver Copper P?

Potion?

[clb]

Thanks, Sir Peebles. I am not quite old enough to claim a senior moment, so I guess that makes it a brain fart?

[SirPeebles]

Thanks, Sir Peebles. I am not quite old enough to claim a senior moment, so I guess that makes it a brain fart?

No worries.  When you pointed out the second P I noticed the second C and it took me a while to realize that it must be Curse.  Every time I'd looked at it earlier I'd just assumed Platinum/Colony :p

[Polk5440]

I use a Kingdom set up almost just like that -- the only change is I put the trash where you put the Potions. Only if Alchemy cards are in play do Potions come out.

[aaron0013]

(or puts cards away facing the wrong direction! AAH!)

+1

[() | (_) ^/]

(or puts cards away facing the wrong direction! AAH!)

+1

+1'd your +1

[Kuildeous]

Trash goes to the right also?

Trash goes in the receptacle under the sink. We play hardcore Dominion here.

The next game coming out is Dominion: Legacy.

[aaron0013]

(or puts cards away facing the wrong direction! AAH!)

+1

+1'd your +1

You are like my ultimate +1er.  I bet about half of my respect is from you

BTW I +1'd your +1 to my +1.......

[() | (_) ^/]

(or puts cards away facing the wrong direction! AAH!)

+1

+1'd your +1

You are like my ultimate +1er.  I bet about half of my respect is from you

BTW I +1'd your +1 to my +1.......

[() | (_) ^/]

(or puts cards away facing the wrong direction! AAH!)

+1

+1'd your +1

You are like my ultimate +1er.  I bet about half of my respect is from you

BTW I +1'd your +1 to my +1.......

Actually, that would be an interesting metric to review.  theory, can we see stats on who gave us our respect?  If you give most of your respect to one person...

We can see who has f.ds crushes on whom... 

[aaron0013]

(or puts cards away facing the wrong direction! AAH!)

+1

+1'd your +1

You are like my ultimate +1er.  I bet about half of my respect is from you

BTW I +1'd your +1 to my +1.......

Actually, that would be an interesting metric to review.  theory, can we see stats on who gave us our respect?  If you give most of your respect to one person...

We can see who has f.ds crushes on whom... 

Uh....I think we are both guys.

I mean, I'm sure I am.....pretty sure you are....

[Kuildeous]

Uh....I think we are both guys.

I mean, I'm sure I am.....pretty sure you are....

I fail to see how this precludes f.ds crushes.

[AdamH]

I prefer the term "bromance"

I actually have a bromance on this forum...

[aaron0013]

Some people use "crush" in different ways. I guess.

[Jimmmmm]

So back on topic... here's how I generally set up IRL

               T
      C   E   D   P  (C)
(R) (P)  C   S   G  (P) (S)
                6
           5   5   5
           4   4
               3P
           3   3
                2

Yep, always the Trash at the top unless someone complains that they can't reach it, then a row of basic VPs and Curses, then a row of basic Treasures, plus Ruins, Potions and/or Spoils as required, then the Kingdom cards in rows by cost. I know it takes up more space, but I can't really imagine putting them all in a compact rectangle.

For my own area, I always have my deck to the right of my play area, and my discard pile to the right of my deck. If I have mats I'll generally put them to the left of my play area.

Oh, and when playing at home I always play at the same end of the table, orientated so the trash pile is furthest from the end.

[aaron0013]

Yeah I guess I could share the way I do it.

E  D  P  C

C  S  G  P

K  K  K

 K  K

K  K  K

 K  K


The trash is usually in the bottom row or below everything (yes, I play on a long table most of the time.) and the kingdom cards are arranged is separate rows for differing costs.  Mats go to the left of players decks, and piles of tokens are arranged in empty spots on the table.  Very flexible setup and probably kind of unorganized.  I actually change the setup a bit when playing on squarish tables.   

[Kuildeous]

I'm kind of funny in that I like to wrap my kingdom cards around my base cards. I don't know why. I guess it's a way to not put any one person at a disadvantage when reading cards. One person has to reach to read the 6-cost cards, but the other guy has to reach to read the 2-cost cards. I'm perfectly fine sitting in the most disadvantaged spot where all kingdom cards are farther from me.

So, my layout looks more like this:

|K0| |Cu| |Ag| |Au| |Pt| |Po| |K9|
|K1| |Es| |Du| |Pr| |Co| |Cu| |K8|
  |K2| |K3| |K4| |K5| |K6| |K7|


As for trash, it's thrown into any corner of the table, as befits a trash pile. It might get organized when relevant kingdom cards are out, such as Forager or Rogue.

[Kuildeous]

So, my layout looks more like this:

|K0| |Cu| |Ag| |Au| |Pt| |Po| |K9|
|K1| |Es| |Du| |Pr| |Co| |Cu| |K8|
  |K2| |K3| |K4| |K5| |K6| |K7|

Oh yes, and when other cards (bane, Ruins, Spoils, Mercenary, et al.) come into play, I'll tuck them above the treasures. I may actually replace K0 with a stack and shove everything around so the bottom row lines up perfectly with the columns. This is especially true for a bane card, but we have to distinguish it as bane somehow.

[jaybeez]

So, my layout looks more like this:

|K0| |Cu| |Ag| |Au| |Pt| |Po| |K9|
|K1| |Es| |Du| |Pr| |Co| |Cu| |K8|
  |K2| |K3| |K4| |K5| |K6| |K7|

What does the Polonium card do?

Sorry, I just had to.

[SirPeebles]

So, my layout looks more like this:

|K0| |Cu| |Ag| |Au| |Pt| |Po| |K9|
|K1| |Es| |Du| |Pr| |Co| |Cu| |K8|
  |K2| |K3| |K4| |K5| |K6| |K7|

What does the Polonium card do?

Sorry, I just had to.

If you have one in play, you may return your Chemists to the top of your deck during clean up.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

So, my layout looks more like this:

|K0| |Cu| |Ag| |Au| |Pt| |Po| |K9|
|K1| |Es| |Du| |Pr| |Co| |Cu| |K8|
  |K2| |K3| |K4| |K5| |K6| |K7|

What does the Polonium card do?

Sorry, I just had to.

It reduces the static on the mats.

[flies]

Code: [Select]

Po  Co  Si  Go  Pl  Sp 
Ru  Cu  Es  Du  Pr  Col
  K1  K3  K5  K7  K9 
  K2  K4  K6  K8  K10

I put the kingdom cards in ascending order of cost from left to right.

[xBino]

here's how i setup friday game night



it sits on a lazy susan so new cards are easy to read and pretty accessible for all

[aaron0013]

That is awesome!  Did you buy that?

[Polk5440]

That is a fantastic idea! But that must be a really big lazy susan. Where did you find it?

[Voltgloss]

My standard setup:

    Tra         Cur
Cop Sil Gol Pro Duc Est

With two or three rows of Kingdom cards below them, grouped by cost, in alphabetical order within each cost group.

If Plats/Colonies are in play, they go between Gold and Province.

If there are other special cards in play they go in the same row as the Trash and Curse piles.  I move Trash to the center, move the Curse pile above the Trash pile, put special treasure cards (Potion, Spoils) above the main treasure cards, and other special cards (Mercenary, Madman) above the main victory cards.

I normally play 3P.  One person sits directly in front of the setup and can read the cards head-on.  The other person sits on one side but has the blue randomizer cards set up near her, reflecting the kingdom card setup on the table, so she can easily review the setup without twisting her neck.  I sit on the other side and just tough it out. 

[xBino]

the lazy susan i bought off amazon, but the playmat i made myself.

its made out of matboard that's been cut and painted black.  all the trays were designed to be angled slightly so all the card sit neatly in stacks and don't shift.

nothing drives me crazier than a set of kingdom cards run amok! lol