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[Robz888]

Worrying about having made a scumslip is a more a scum trait than a town trait. I stand by that.

[shraeye]

Why would he have genuine worry abou having committed the scumslip, unless he was the scum who made it? Maybe you don't know this, but the biggest authentic scumslip in the history of forum mafia was made by Frisk in M-VIII.

I know about Frisk's slip, but that's irrelevant here.

I am often worried about making slips as town because I feel they'll mislead town and create a mislynch.  That is the feeling I get from Frisk here.

Do you actually, though? I've only ever worried about making slips when I was mafia. And if I was told a slip had been made, I would only be especially worried it was me if I were mafia.

But would you openly express that worry?

Good question; I'm not sure of the answer.

[Captain_Frisk]

I didn't worry that I had actually slipped, I reread everything.  I was worried (and apparently correctly so) that something I had said would be interpreted as scummy, and that the IC would incorrectly use it as an opportunity to mislynch. 

Shraeyes specific question zeroed at me (who would i gamble the game on) made me think he was trying to grill me because he thought I was scum, and I thought he was going to cost us the game.

I don't understand why RobZ thinks that I would play scum this way.

[Galzria]

How long until deadline?

[Captain_Frisk]

3.5 hours.

[Robz888]

I didn't worry that I had actually slipped, I reread everything.  I was worried (and apparently correctly so) that something I had said would be interpreted as scummy, and that the IC would incorrectly use it as an opportunity to mislynch. 

Shraeyes specific question zeroed at me (who would i gamble the game on) made me think he was trying to grill me because he thought I was scum, and I thought he was going to cost us the game.

I don't understand why RobZ thinks that I would play scum this way.

I'm not saying your obvscum for this, but I strongly disagree it was a town-ish response. Paranoia that you are the focus is a scum quality.

[Robz888]

I guess it could be the case that you're just jumpy about scumslips in general, since you made such a big one.

[shraeye]

Here are my thoughts on SFS.

He showed up late when it was evident that many people disagreed with Eevee's idea, yet he chose to agree with it.  I'm not sure if as scum I would have put myself in that forward of a position.  If both SFS and Eevee are scum, them agreeing will help us lynch the second if we lynch the first.  If Eevee is town, then SFS would have been much better off to also disagree, and quietly/loudly/regularly pushed Eevee to be today's lynch.

I'm going to say SFS is not a good lynch today.

[shraeye]

Let me get a quick headcount here.  If I demanded that we lynch Insomniac, how many people would do it (grudgingly, or willingly)?

SFS is alrady voting for him, and Galz has expressed a scumread on Insom.

[Voltgloss]

Vote Count 1.5:

Eevee (1, u1): Jimmmmm
SwitchedFromStarcraft (2, u2): Robz888, Insomniac
Galzria (1, u2): shraeye, Eevee
Insomniac (2, u2): shraeye, SwitchedFromStarcraft
Robz888 (1, u1): Galzria

Not voting (1): Captain_Frisk

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 1 ends Friday, November 16 at 9:00 p.m. forum time.

[Insomniac]

Here are my thoughts on SFS.

He showed up late when it was evident that many people disagreed with Eevee's idea, yet he chose to agree with it.  I'm not sure if as scum I would have put myself in that forward of a position.  If both SFS and Eevee are scum, them agreeing will help us lynch the second if we lynch the first.  If Eevee is town, then SFS would have been much better off to also disagree, and quietly/loudly/regularly pushed Eevee to be today's lynch.

I'm going to say SFS is not a good lynch today.

...You're a horrible IC, if you stand by your lynch of me and that stance on SFS you will absolutely cost town the game.

[Captain_Frisk]

I would not.

[Galzria]

Let me get a quick headcount here.  If I demanded that we lynch Insomniac, how many people would do it (grudgingly, or willingly)?

SFS is alrady voting for him, and Galz has expressed a scumread on Insom.

That is correct. I would vote him, but I like my Robz case better.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.5:

Eevee (1, u1): Jimmmmm
SwitchedFromStarcraft (2, u2): Robz888, Insomniac
Galzria (1, u2): shraeye, Eevee
Insomniac (2, u2): shraeye, SwitchedFromStarcraft
Robz888 (1, u1): Galzria

Not voting (1): Captain_Frisk

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 1 ends Friday, November 16 at 9:00 p.m. forum time.

That's for the Volt Counts.  I'm awake now and watching.  Both Volt and Jorbles can flip to D2 if I'm not here to catch it.  Remember, D2 will be the full weekend, even though it's Blitz, to counteract the fact that no one is here on the weekends.

[shraeye]

Here are my thoughts on SFS.

He showed up late when it was evident that many people disagreed with Eevee's idea, yet he chose to agree with it.  I'm not sure if as scum I would have put myself in that forward of a position.  If both SFS and Eevee are scum, them agreeing will help us lynch the second if we lynch the first.  If Eevee is town, then SFS would have been much better off to also disagree, and quietly/loudly/regularly pushed Eevee to be today's lynch.

I'm going to say SFS is not a good lynch today.

...You're a horrible IC, if you stand by your lynch of me and that stance on SFS you will absolutely cost town the game.

Thanks for the vote of confidence...

What I said was SFS is not a good lynch today, tomorrow is up in the air.  I will not be swayed from lynching you just because you threatened that it will cost town the game.  Even if I'm wrong about you, one mislynch will not cost town the game.  It will make it harder, but it won't cost the game.  I can be swayed, but I do not react to AtE.

[shraeye]

Robz, would you be absolutely against an Insom lynch today?

[shraeye]

And eevee, what do you say about Insom?

[Insomniac]

20 minutes left for me, if I get hammered here are my reads for day 2 because I hope we can still win

#1 - SFS - He is absolutely scum
#2 - Galz - He set himself up to vote SFS or Insom which are the biggest wagons, would be highly surprised if he were town

Admittedly I don't have a good read for 3 if pressed I would say

#3 - Eevee - I was only giving him a town read for going against the grain when I think he would fly under the radar, I could be wrong and he could be scum.



Townie I would bet the game on: Frisk, nothing in particular but his posts have just had a resounding town frisk feel for me.

Townie I will never listen to again: Shraeye for being 100% wrong about SFS vs Insom

[Robz888]

Robz, would you be absolutely against an Insom lynch today?

I'm not absolutely against it, but I do have a really different read on him than you do. I think he's acting just like town Insomniac. It's possible that Insomniac has learned how to fool me by now, and he's definitely pulled it off in M-XII. Here's my order, though:

Eevee--SFS--Frisk--Insomniac--Galzria--Me

I'm definitely most suspicious of SFS and Eevee. I'll drop SFS from consideration per your request, though, since I do see some towniness out of his more recent responses, and I'm more sold on Eevee anyway. Vote: Eevee

[Captain_Frisk]

Man i hate agreeing with RobZ

[Galzria]

20 minutes left for me, if I get hammered here are my reads for day 2 because I hope we can still win

#1 - SFS - He is absolutely scum
#2 - Galz - He set himself up to vote SFS or Insom which are the biggest wagons, would be highly surprised if he were town

Admittedly I don't have a good read for 3 if pressed I would say

#3 - Eevee - I was only giving him a town read for going against the grain when I think he would fly under the radar, I could be wrong and he could be scum.



Townie I would bet the game on: Frisk, nothing in particular but his posts have just had a resounding town frisk feel for me.

Townie I will never listen to again: Shraeye for being 100% wrong about SFS vs Insom

This is incorrect. I would not vote SFS today. I would consider heavily voting him TOMORROW, IF we lynched you and you flipped town.

[Eevee]

Ins is Slight scum read for me, but really slight. robz
said something totally incorrect, going back to find it. vote:
robz though.

[Robz888]

Ins is Slight scum read for me, but really slight. robz
said something totally incorrect, going back to find it. vote:
robz though.

Give me an "O!" Give me a "G!" Give me a "U!" Give me an "S!"

[shraeye]

Good.  I have done analysis computing likely scum triples.  I believe there is no way Insom and SFS are both scum.

Also, Insom is not today's lynch, if I have my way.  I am mildly inclined to believe Robz's assessment that Insom is acting just like town insom.

People I am currently most suspicious of are Robz/Galz.

Vote: Galz

PPE: I agree with eevee; and am about to look through Robz's stuff.

[Insomniac]

20 minutes left for me, if I get hammered here are my reads for day 2 because I hope we can still win

#1 - SFS - He is absolutely scum
#2 - Galz - He set himself up to vote SFS or Insom which are the biggest wagons, would be highly surprised if he were town

Admittedly I don't have a good read for 3 if pressed I would say

#3 - Eevee - I was only giving him a town read for going against the grain when I think he would fly under the radar, I could be wrong and he could be scum.



Townie I would bet the game on: Frisk, nothing in particular but his posts have just had a resounding town frisk feel for me.

Townie I will never listen to again: Shraeye for being 100% wrong about SFS vs Insom

This is incorrect. I would not vote SFS today. I would consider heavily voting him TOMORROW, IF we lynched you and you flipped town.

Really perhaps you should go read your post again because no where did you say you wouldn't lynch either of us and said that you were sure one of us was scum maybe both