soooo derptastic, this means A) any town that chooses a scum person will not be targeted because if they're hider they'll die
B) Scum kill someone and there's extra kills somewhere and we wonder if the person they hid behind is scum
I should lurk less, because you come up with ideas like this when I don't.
B) If someone flips hider, and the used there power, they can only die if 1: they target scum, 2: their target dies. If the hider has clearly stated ahead of time who they'll hid behind, then we'll know which happened, and potentially find scum.
A) If the scum refuse to target townies who claimed to hide behind them, then they're reducing their kill-pool based on townie actions rather than choosing their ideal kill-choices, this is a town benefit. Any possibility of them not targeting the hider vs. the possibility of the hider not targeting scum, I believe come out to a wash.
A couple comments on the popcorn hider thing, that I didn't get a chance to post. I think town should feel free to target someone who's already targeted and feel free to change targets. I'd suggest that we use a soft limit of 2 people per target. Now, I hear you say, but only the real hider would actually change targets. Actually it would seem beneficial to me that ANY power role would want scum to think they're the hider. Because scum DON'T WANT to shoot the hider. So, please fake-hiders keep in mind, that it may behoove you specifically to appear as much like the hider as possible, this in turn helps the real hider to not be found out, which makes scum more likely to target him, which means he's more likely to get use out of the protective half of his power. This might be confusing, so I'll tl;dr it:
Suggestion: use a soft-limit of 2 "hiders" per target.
The more likely scum finds you to be hider, the less likely they are to shoot you...hence, consider changing targets especially if you're a PR. (you can even breadcrumb your actual target, or secondary target or whatever if you're an investigative role, since it's likely that you're actually putting thought into it, it may make you look even more like the hider. Or just breadcrumb whoever you feel like).
If I were hider, I'd hide behind joth right now.Crap, I spent a whole nother post talking about the hider thing. I'm going to stop that now. cayvie's analysis is interesting in that it's opposite of mine in many ways.
Hmm...still no clear leaders from my perspective on scumminess. That said, I'm going to
Vote: Robz to create a clear leader in the vote-counts, and see how he responds to the increased pressure. This is basically still about the pps issue...him voting for O I do not read as scummy, nor his avoidance of the hider debate...those both read null to me.
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