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Re: Cosmic Encounter I - The First Encounter
« Reply #275 on: August 20, 2012, 07:07:11 pm »

K, yeah, it's not like anything changed.
Difference of one ship.  Not a negligible difference.
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Re: Cosmic Encounter I - The First Encounter
« Reply #276 on: August 20, 2012, 07:08:55 pm »

Sure he would if he needs a new hand. He doesn't mind losing ships to the warp and he CERTAINLY doesn't mind his allies losing ships either.
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Re: Cosmic Encounter I - The First Encounter
« Reply #277 on: August 20, 2012, 07:13:20 pm »

If he's going to play negotiate, why do you need defensive help?

If he's not going to play negotiate, can you beat him with help?
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: Cosmic Encounter I - The First Encounter
« Reply #278 on: August 20, 2012, 07:53:36 pm »

Well there's no guarantee he'll play a negotiate but it seems likely enough to me. Honestly I don't need defensive help but am fine with giving people that option. I can beat him whether he plays negotiate or not. Help always helps, though.
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Re: Cosmic Encounter I - The First Encounter
« Reply #279 on: August 20, 2012, 07:57:02 pm »

Well, good enough for me. I trust Reborn to know the consequences of a failed defense, and yet he still asks for help. That's enough to suggest to me that he's confident in his ability to win. Free cards! I need to wait for Pacifist to make anything official, but I'll be there to support the defense!
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Cosmic Encounter I - The First Encounter
« Reply #280 on: August 20, 2012, 08:04:53 pm »

Well, Reborn's got a lot of cards, and it's the only side I can ally with. I'll put four ships to the defense, three from Merchant's C, and one from my planet B.
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Re: Cosmic Encounter I - The First Encounter
« Reply #281 on: August 20, 2012, 08:06:57 pm »

2 from Merchant C, and 2 from my system to the Defense!
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Cosmic Encounter I - The First Encounter
« Reply #282 on: August 20, 2012, 08:10:53 pm »

Animal allies with the offense with one ship
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Re: Cosmic Encounter I - The First Encounter
« Reply #283 on: August 21, 2012, 11:55:13 am »

Given how many ships I've lost, this is the equivalent of going all in. I'd rather support the side with 40 ships I can see, and that gets me double rewards.

3 ships to the offense, from C, D, and E.
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Re: Cosmic Encounter I - The First Encounter
« Reply #284 on: August 21, 2012, 12:14:59 pm »

Given how many ships I've lost, this is the equivalent of going all in. I'd rather support the side with 40 ships I can see, and that gets me double rewards.

Well, can't blame you there. All we can hope for is that someone plays Moebius Tubes during the Regroup phase.

If someone is holding onto it, he may have decided that playing it while Warpish had no colonies was unnecessary. He's only a juggernaut for so long.

And, well, if Warpish is holding onto it, then someone will just need to take it from his hand with a Negotiate.
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Re: Cosmic Encounter I - The First Encounter
« Reply #285 on: August 21, 2012, 03:18:49 pm »

Mite.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Cosmic Encounter I - The First Encounter
« Reply #286 on: August 21, 2012, 03:23:44 pm »

Prodding Lekkit.
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« Reply #287 on: August 21, 2012, 03:45:35 pm »

Prodding Lekkit.

Man, he sure is slow for Lightning.

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Re: Cosmic Encounter I - The First Encounter
« Reply #288 on: August 21, 2012, 04:47:24 pm »

1 ship to the offense.
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Re: Cosmic Encounter I - The First Encounter
« Reply #289 on: August 21, 2012, 04:49:54 pm »

Going steady.
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Re: Cosmic Encounter I - The First Encounter
« Reply #290 on: August 21, 2012, 04:56:28 pm »


Merchant stays home.

Totals:
Offense - 8
Defense - 10

Encounter cards and COs plox.
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Re: Cosmic Encounter I - The First Encounter
« Reply #291 on: August 21, 2012, 05:25:30 pm »


Main player select encounter cards.

Warpish reveals an Attack 08.
Reborn reveals an Attack 11.

Totals:
Offense - 16
Defense - 21

Warpish uses his power to add 41 for each ship in the warp to his total bringing it to:

Totals:
Offense - 57
Defense - 21

6 hour Window for effects.
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« Reply #292 on: August 21, 2012, 05:28:33 pm »

I'm just glad that is Warpish's last attack for a while.
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« Reply #293 on: August 21, 2012, 05:32:09 pm »

As an outside observer who has never played the game before and admittedly has very little understanding of how it works (I skimmed the rulebook but that's it) - Warpish's special ability looks ridiculously powerful.  Almost brokenly so.  I assume there's something that balances it, that just hasn't come up?
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« Reply #294 on: August 21, 2012, 05:55:57 pm »

As an outside observer who has never played the game before and admittedly has very little understanding of how it works (I skimmed the rulebook but that's it) - Warpish's special ability looks ridiculously powerful.  Almost brokenly so.  I assume there's something that balances it, that just hasn't come up?
Plenty of ways.  I'll discuss it after the game because it's not fair to him if I did so now.
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« Reply #295 on: August 21, 2012, 06:00:24 pm »

As an outside observer who has never played the game before and admittedly has very little understanding of how it works (I skimmed the rulebook but that's it) - Warpish's special ability looks ridiculously powerful.  Almost brokenly so.  I assume there's something that balances it, that just hasn't come up?
Plenty of ways.  I'll discuss it after the game because it's not fair to him if I did so now.

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Re: Cosmic Encounter I - The First Encounter
« Reply #296 on: August 21, 2012, 06:58:13 pm »

Oh shoot somehow I caught Volt's question and thought that was the only new post. I'm really surprised that he still had attack cards, not surprised that they're low but that doesn't matter so much when he gets +41 from the warp. There is some stuff I can do but we really need to stop him from getting more of our ships in the warp.

I'll play the Citadel Flare to add +5 to the defense.

@Volt: Any given game of Cosmic is unlikely to be perfectly balanced, but every alien power does have other powers (or events within the game) that serve to check its power. Like theory said, the primary source of balancing comes from the players themselves, and while this can occasionally lead to kingmaking scenarios and whatnot, it all tends to work out really well. Furthermore, for whatever reason there are already a crapton of ships in the warp this game, more than usual I think, which of course is a boon for the Warpish. There are cards, though, like Mobius Tubes and Rifts, that takes ships out of the warp, and there are a lot of occasions (especially with specific other alien powers like Anti-matter and Loser, some hazard cards when playing with the hazard deck) where the mandatory nature of the power makes it a huge liability. And then there are always Cosmic Zaps which negate alien powers for a turn.
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Re: Cosmic Encounter I - The First Encounter
« Reply #297 on: August 21, 2012, 07:10:19 pm »

Warpish is pretty crazy powerful in an 8-player game. But, there are also 7 players to go up against him.

Right now, Warpish has his second colony out of five. His two attacks have been pretty brutal, but now he's at a stage where the other players are less likely to invite him to attack (which allows allies to get colonies).

And, well, pity the poor sap who has to attack him.
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« Reply #298 on: August 21, 2012, 07:12:31 pm »

In other words:
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« Reply #299 on: August 21, 2012, 07:18:47 pm »

And Pacifist can shut him down like Rogue.
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