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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #175 on: August 15, 2012, 04:44:54 pm »
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Assuming additionally we are both equally skilled with colony plat, if you blow with colony/plat it won't help you at all ;) But I get that. And what I meant is if you have both sets you are more likely to see the pin then if you have more sets or don't have the requisite sets and you could get super good at playing that pin.

A good solution here is to make the hoster the person whom has more sets or in the case of a tie random

Or just make the expansions reasonably affordable, and require ownership of all sets for inclusion in the hardcore leaderboard.
Adds an incentive for purchase, and I doubt many serious players won't want to own all the sets after all.

Barsooma, are you being reasonable?
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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #176 on: August 15, 2012, 04:48:15 pm »
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People have shown significant skills playing, for example, with a much-higher-than-average percentage of platinum/colony boards.
Yes, I conceded that one.

Oh I see. So by not buying Seaside you increase the number of Platinum/Colony boards.
I would probably also do my best to not own the governor card.  I don't know for sure that its "lower skill" - but I do know that I suck with it - and the reduction of 2 turns off the game in average i think heightens 1p advantage.
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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #177 on: August 15, 2012, 04:48:41 pm »
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Assuming additionally we are both equally skilled with colony plat, if you blow with colony/plat it won't help you at all ;) But I get that. And what I meant is if you have both sets you are more likely to see the pin then if you have more sets or don't have the requisite sets and you could get super good at playing that pin.

A good solution here is to make the hoster the person whom has more sets or in the case of a tie random

Or just make the expansions reasonably affordable, and require ownership of all sets for inclusion in the hardcore leaderboard.
Adds an incentive for purchase, and I doubt many serious players won't want to own all the sets after all.

Barsooma, are you being reasonable?

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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #178 on: August 15, 2012, 04:57:42 pm »
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Heh. I personally wouldn't bother trying to game the rating system by buying or not buying sets or cards...

I would expect that if you do something reasonable, then the good players will float to the top anyway.

Hey! Maybe you can do something crazy like weighting the rankings by card? To guarantee that Colony games count for (exactly the expected percentage of your rating), and so on. That would mean you wouldn't HAVE to buy all the sets to be highly rated, but you probably would have a very uncertain rating with a lot of the cards if you've only played with them like once or something.
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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #179 on: August 15, 2012, 05:01:58 pm »
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Heh. I personally wouldn't bother trying to game the rating system by buying or not buying sets or cards...

I would expect that if you do something reasonable, then the good players will float to the top anyway.

Hey! Maybe you can do something crazy like weighting the rankings by card? To guarantee that Colony games count for (exactly the expected percentage of your rating), and so on. That would mean you wouldn't HAVE to buy all the sets to be highly rated, but you probably would have a very uncertain rating with a lot of the cards if you've only played with them like once or something.

It's not a question of floating near the top, but being #1.  I wouldn't actually do it - but you know that someone will.
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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #180 on: August 15, 2012, 05:37:15 pm »
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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #181 on: August 15, 2012, 05:53:31 pm »
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Heh. I personally wouldn't bother trying to game the rating system by buying or not buying sets or cards...

I would expect that if you do something reasonable, then the good players will float to the top anyway.

Hey! Maybe you can do something crazy like weighting the rankings by card? To guarantee that Colony games count for (exactly the expected percentage of your rating), and so on. That would mean you wouldn't HAVE to buy all the sets to be highly rated, but you probably would have a very uncertain rating with a lot of the cards if you've only played with them like once or something.

It's not a question of floating near the top, but being #1.  I wouldn't actually do it - but you know that someone will.

But I don't think it's that big of an advantage.

Like, in automatch, fully half your matches will be with the other people's cards, so that's half the advantage gone. And you don't even pick your own card sets - and Base will always be an option. So the most you could do is bias to Base+1 other set, so you'll get a lot of boring Base games, where you get no advantage because everyone knows how to play Base. I mean, maybe it's a little bit of an advantage because you might beat some better players sometimes in a BM+witch game, but that bites both ways - if you ever get a good ranking playing this way, you'll lose a lot of games you shouldn't.

I just don't see it as a major problem, and I don't see how you could use this to get to #1. Not any more effective than just, like, biasing Prosperity or something.
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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #182 on: August 15, 2012, 06:17:34 pm »
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Oh I see. So by not buying Seaside you increase the number of Platinum/Colony boards.

Wouldn't it be good if you could use whatever subset of the sets you have? Then no missed buy because someone is afraid to buy a set they don't want to play with most of the time. Just like in real life you don't have to bring out all your sets to a gaming night just because you own them.
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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #183 on: August 15, 2012, 06:20:02 pm »
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Oh I see. So by not buying Seaside you increase the number of Platinum/Colony boards.

Wouldn't it be good if you could use whatever subset of the sets you have? Then no missed buy because someone is afraid to buy a set they don't want to play with most of the time. Just like in real life you don't have to bring out all your sets to a gaming night just because you own them.

I had a gaming night tonight and Alchemy stayed firmly on the shelf!
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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #184 on: August 15, 2012, 06:26:43 pm »
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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #185 on: August 16, 2012, 11:13:01 am »
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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #186 on: August 16, 2012, 11:15:26 am »
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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #188 on: August 16, 2012, 11:35:03 am »
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So, have they given some sort of timeframe for when it goes online? The day is already over in Japan and 2/3 of Australia, and it's kind of evening in Europe. :>
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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #189 on: August 16, 2012, 11:36:32 am »
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So, have they given some sort of timeframe for when it goes online? The day is already over in Japan and 2/3 of Australia, and it's kind of evening in Europe. :>

Nope - twitter announced the launch - and then quickly announced that they were having technical problems.  I suspect the safe thing to do is just wait until tomorrow and enjoy playing iso.
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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #190 on: August 16, 2012, 11:39:03 am »
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I certainly will do, but I want to have the lowest ID possible by registering as early as possible. (Unless they didn't wipe their account database, because then I will have lost the game already. :>)

Besides that I simply want to try it, because after all I never got a beta invite.
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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #191 on: August 16, 2012, 02:57:44 pm »
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From the Goko Twitter page:

"No ETA yet, but scout's honor that we'll send an update as soon as we get one. "

The irony of this statement is surely lost on whoever types the tweets.  Nothing like swearing on the honor of the worst Dominion card that you'll have your Dominion server up soon!
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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #192 on: August 16, 2012, 02:59:14 pm »
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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #193 on: August 16, 2012, 03:03:07 pm »
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From the Goko Twitter page:

"No ETA yet, but scout's honor that we'll send an update as soon as we get one. "

The irony of this statement is surely lost on whoever types the tweets.  Nothing like swearing on the honor of the worst Dominion card that you'll have your Dominion server up soon!

Link to twitter page please?
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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #194 on: August 16, 2012, 03:03:15 pm »
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Did anyone else get the log in page with the username password request and try Admin/Admin?
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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #195 on: August 16, 2012, 03:03:45 pm »
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From the Goko Twitter page:

"No ETA yet, but scout's honor that we'll send an update as soon as we get one. "

The irony of this statement is surely lost on whoever types the tweets.  Nothing like swearing on the honor of the worst Dominion card that you'll have your Dominion server up soon!

Link to twitter page please?
https://twitter.com/gokogames
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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #196 on: August 16, 2012, 03:04:17 pm »
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Strangely, the beta is still up. It's not linked from dominion.goko.com anymore, but you can still get to it directly.
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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #197 on: August 16, 2012, 03:08:40 pm »
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Strangely, the beta is still up. It's not linked from dominion.goko.com anymore, but you can still get to it directly.

Yup. I just logged onto the beta. It is so weird to see beta up and not the real launch. I want to play with DA cards!
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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #198 on: August 16, 2012, 03:09:31 pm »
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I wouldn't be surprised if they left the beta site up for a while for testing out cards they haven't implemented yet.
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Re: Official Version Launching 8/16?
« Reply #199 on: August 16, 2012, 03:16:23 pm »
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(Unless they didn't wipe their account database, because then I will have lost the game already. :>)

Thanks... now I just lost The Game.
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