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[Captain_Frisk]

@J:  Just because it worked for O in M3 doesn't mean it works here.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

ummmmmm did people see my post? because of all the possible reactions, one I definitely didn't see coming was it being completely ignored...

Have you not been paying attention?  You wont be discussed again until Day4. 

[Captain_Frisk]

Oh RobZ - I can never stay mad at you - thanks for remining me about the Grujah derail.  You'd think I'd remember because that was my wagon - and I jumped off it in large part due to your compelling analysis of how scummy the wagon looked.  It really does seem like derailing an innocent lynch and then early wagoning a partner would be pretty poor mafia play...  I will amend my previous statement to say that I don't really suspect RobZ of being mafia. 

I reserve the right to think that you are scum.

[SwitchedFromStarcraft]

@RobZ Testy!

Well yes, I am testy. I cannot be the mafia, it is ludicrous to suggest otherwise. I have admitted that I could be the Serial Killer, and I understand why my speeches have made people think I'm the SK. Emphatically, I cannot be the mafia.

New plan: Lynch Jo, shoot Frisk.

Now THAT I can get solidly behind.

[Robz888]

Oh RobZ - I can never stay mad at you - thanks for remining me about the Grujah derail.  You'd think I'd remember because that was my wagon - and I jumped off it in large part due to your compelling analysis of how scummy the wagon looked.  It really does seem like derailing an innocent lynch and then early wagoning a partner would be pretty poor mafia play...  I will amend my previous statement to say that I don't really suspect RobZ of being mafia. 

I reserve the right to think that you are scum.

For the same reason, Tables cannot be the mafia Godfather. I narrowed it down to O or Galzria, and Tables picked O.

[jotheonah]

@J:  Just because it worked for O in M3 doesn't mean it works here.

It's not a terrible idea, rolling the dice. it's hard for the mafia to sway.

[Robz888]

Okay, here are all the people I wish were dead:

Frisk, Jo, Dsell, Axxle

Of those, here are the ones I prefer get lynched, because I think they have a higher likelihood of being one-shot immune SKs:

Jo, Dsell

So we lynch Jo, tell Dsell to kill either Frisk or Axxle. Probably, we should have him kill whichever person he was least comfortable killing, just in case Dsell is mafia. I would have to look back and see.

Does this sound like a plan? Jo and Dsell CANNOT be a scum team, btw. Nor can Jo and Axxle, probably.

[jotheonah]

I don't love this plan. Mainly because I can't condone killing town. I seem to recall Glooble and Pops still think I'm town, so if they consent to it than I will be a good little goat (not that I have a choice really).

[Captain_Frisk]

Okay, here are all the people I wish were dead:

That's just mean.

As for the plan - I think I agree - but primarily because I believe DSell wants to kill me over Axxle.  That gets my most likely suspects out of both pools (double bad voters and potential bussers)

[jotheonah]

also, I object to letting Robz run the show.

[Captain_Frisk]

also, I object to letting Robz run the show.

Who would you propose instead?

[jotheonah]

a random number generator. Or, as pops suggested, group consensus.

If it has to be a person, I want tables.

[Robz888]

a random number generator. Or, as pops suggested, group consensus.

If it has to be a person, I want tables.

Tables is just as likely to be mafia as I am (zero chance), and just as likely to be SK (some chance). But anyway, I agree that he should also condone the plan. And obviously a majority of people should condone it.

[Glooble]

I would prefer CF lynch and nightkill Axxle, but I understand the logic for jo, and if Tables condones it, I won't fight it. What I said earlier about my being wary of my own read on jo still stands. I'm just not sure I trust myself at this point.

[Robz888]

I would prefer CF lynch and nightkill Axxle, but I understand the logic for jo, and if Tables condones it, I won't fight it. What I said earlier about my being wary of my own read on jo still stands. I'm just not sure I trust myself at this point.

Well, lynch Frisk, shoot Jo is an option. I'm worried Jo is immune, though. Maybe lynch Frisk, shoot Axxle? Help!

[Tables]

...You'd think if we had a doctor/jailkeeper they would have blocked at least one kill by now, but with mafia, Sk, and multiple one-shot vigs, maybe they did.

Another thing is, right now even if we don't have a doctor or jailkeeper, I'm willing to bet the fear of such a role has saved Tables and SFS's lives the past few nights....

Just two things. Firstly, it's not THAT likely a Doc/JK has made a save yet. But we don't know how many kill attempts there've been. It's probably something like a 30% chance they have, and that's assuming they're a full doctor. Secondly, there's only been one night since I SFS claim-cleared me. Slow game.

I think, personally, the best two candidates are Joth and Axxle. DSell was my main suspect (and still is) but assuming he's town, I think Joth/Axxle are the next two. So if I have to lead the charge, I say lynch Joth today and DSell has to shoot Axxle. But I'm far, far from convinced by it.

[jotheonah]

Sounds like jo lynch is go lynch.

[Robz888]

...You'd think if we had a doctor/jailkeeper they would have blocked at least one kill by now, but with mafia, Sk, and multiple one-shot vigs, maybe they did.

Another thing is, right now even if we don't have a doctor or jailkeeper, I'm willing to bet the fear of such a role has saved Tables and SFS's lives the past few nights....

Just two things. Firstly, it's not THAT likely a Doc/JK has made a save yet. But we don't know how many kill attempts there've been. It's probably something like a 30% chance they have, and that's assuming they're a full doctor. Secondly, there's only been one night since I SFS claim-cleared me. Slow game.

I think, personally, the best two candidates are Joth and Axxle. DSell was my main suspect (and still is) but assuming he's town, I think Joth/Axxle are the next two. So if I have to lead the charge, I say lynch Joth today and DSell has to shoot Axxle. But I'm far, far from convinced by it.

Okay, since I know that Tables is also not the mafia, it is comforting that his thinking here is basically the same as mine.

Dsell, do you agree to shoot Axxle? If you say yes, I will vote for Jo and we can move this along.

Is everybody else, other than Jo and Axxle presumably, okay with this? I think SFS is, I know he wants Jo dead. I'm not sure where Pops and Glooble stand.

[Axxle]

Massclaim is bad today, it might work tomorrow though.

Shouldn't we have more of a plan than "Lynch someone, shoot someone else"?  I think having a condition on whether that person flips town or not should have a big impact on who we should shoot.  Like if we lynch Joth, and he's scum I'd rather shoot Glooble or pops more than anyone else.

[Captain_Frisk]

Is everybody else, other than Jo and Axxle presumably, okay with this? I think SFS is, I know he wants Jo dead. I'm not sure where Pops and Glooble stand.

I don't have any plans that I view as more likely, so I'm ok with it.  We already have J's roleclaim as well.

[Robz888]

Is everybody else, other than Jo and Axxle presumably, okay with this? I think SFS is, I know he wants Jo dead. I'm not sure where Pops and Glooble stand.

I don't have any plans that I view as more likely, so I'm ok with it.  We already have J's roleclaim as well.

So me, Tables, and Frisk support the plan. Dsell needs to support the plan and commit to shooting Axxle.

[Captain_Frisk]

Green image says DSell is online.

[jotheonah]

I want pops to weigh in as well. It would be sort of nice to have one person remind you all that I'm town.

[Robz888]

Green image says DSell is online.

Eh, that doesn't mean much. I'm permanently logged in, because I'm always logged in on my phone. But I'm not always here, or with my phone. Like, I'm going for a run now, so won't be back for a bit.

[Captain_Frisk]

I want pops to weigh in as well. It would be sort of nice to have one person remind you all that I'm town.

Pops has been oddly quiet.  I don't like it.