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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #2100 on: June 23, 2012, 01:37:45 pm »

Probably O.  "I have to wagon at one point" was soooo not his attitude day 1. 

But then I got flackx1000 for "not being willing to join on either of the major wagons", and nobody was willing to join my popswagon.

I really don't think me or Galz is scum.

And what happens when we lynch me or Galz and either of us flips town?
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« Reply #2101 on: June 23, 2012, 01:38:41 pm »

inb4omgfreudianslipomgscum. I KNOW I'm not scum, I highly suspect Galz is town. Kthx.
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« Reply #2102 on: June 23, 2012, 01:42:30 pm »

Probably O.  "I have to wagon at one point" was soooo not his attitude day 1. 

But then I got flackx1000 for "not being willing to join on either of the major wagons", and nobody was willing to join my popswagon.

I really don't think me or Galz is scum.

And what happens when we lynch me or Galz and either of us flips town?

I joined your Pops wagon D1... :'(

I should've stayed on it instead of going with Axxle. We would be down 1 scum in this town.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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« Reply #2103 on: June 23, 2012, 02:35:22 pm »

Probably O.  "I have to wagon at one point" was soooo not his attitude day 1. 

But then I got flackx1000 for "not being willing to join on either of the major wagons", and nobody was willing to join my popswagon.

I really don't think me or Galz is scum.

And what happens when we lynch me or Galz and either of us flips town?

I joined your Pops wagon D1... :'(

I should've stayed on it instead of going with Axxle. We would be down 1 scum in this town.
You, after my flip.
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« Reply #2104 on: June 23, 2012, 02:39:55 pm »

Probably O.  "I have to wagon at one point" was soooo not his attitude day 1. 

But then I got flackx1000 for "not being willing to join on either of the major wagons", and nobody was willing to join my popswagon.

I really don't think me or Galz is scum.

And what happens when we lynch me or Galz and either of us flips town?

I joined your Pops wagon D1... :'(

I should've stayed on it instead of going with Axxle. We would be down 1 scum in this town.
You, after my flip.

Wow, that's the best defense I've ever seen! Pops is TOTALLY pro.
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Quote from: Voltgloss
Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #2105 on: June 23, 2012, 03:05:14 pm »

cool your jets before i start to blush
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Re: Mafia IV: Within These Estate Walls (DAY 2 UNDERWAY)
« Reply #2106 on: June 23, 2012, 03:07:53 pm »

Vote: Popsoftown
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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« Reply #2107 on: June 23, 2012, 03:16:57 pm »

Well two days before deadline is definitely the best time to be starting a bunch of new wagons. I'm so glad superrobz cut in when he did. We were getting dangerously close to actually accomplishing something.
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« Reply #2108 on: June 23, 2012, 04:55:11 pm »

Well two days before deadline is definitely the best time to be starting a bunch of new wagons. I'm so glad superrobz cut in when he did. We were getting dangerously close to actually accomplishing something.

Do you really think that Grujah is mafia? 
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« Reply #2109 on: June 23, 2012, 05:25:12 pm »

There's two possible mafia subsets in my mind. One of them (the lurker mafia theory) almost certainly includes Grujah.

So yes, I believe he could be mafia.
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« Reply #2110 on: June 23, 2012, 05:32:50 pm »

Ok.  This is going to be some refereeing, but it's necessary:

It is bad to nolynch in mafia.  I probably won't be able to convince Robz of this, but it's mathematically superior to lynch at random rather than not lynch at all, and it logically follows from the game's premises that lynching is superior to nolynching unless and absurdly larger amount of information is going to arrive on future days, and that doesn't happen in well designed mafia games.  It does happen in Dethy, but I'm going to assume this is a game with less than eleventeen investigative roles.

Everyone needs to make a list of people that they are willing to lynch today.  Technically, that list should include everyone but Tables, but for most people there's several players that are such undesirable lynches to you that you would use the risk of no-lynch to your advantage to get a lynch you prefer (google "the ultimatum game" and figure out the relevance, perhaps).  That's dangerous territory.
If we have a last day deadline scramble, instead of risking no-lynch we can just synthesize the lists and find a consensus lynch.

I would lynch Galzria, O, Grujah, and Axxle2 if I had to in a Darkest hour
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« Reply #2111 on: June 23, 2012, 05:33:14 pm »

JOTH IS ROCKIN THA PRISMZ
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« Reply #2112 on: June 23, 2012, 05:35:35 pm »

Ok, I looked that one up on MafiaScum and couldn't find it. Prisms?
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« Reply #2113 on: June 23, 2012, 05:35:54 pm »

I don't know how you all manage to get these sets of scumtells. The only linkages I have are Robz-Grujah and the extremely unlikely Table-SFS, and those are pairs, not trios. 
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« Reply #2114 on: June 23, 2012, 05:36:39 pm »

it's part of my iso this game, it's not really a thing.
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« Reply #2115 on: June 23, 2012, 05:42:09 pm »

Willing to lynch (in order of preference): Popsofctown, Jotheonah, Glooble, Grujah, Robz
Strong-unwilling: Tables, SFS, DSell (due to V/LA)
Still-pretty-damn-unwilling: Captain Frisk, Axxle, Galzria
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« Reply #2116 on: June 23, 2012, 05:43:57 pm »

I used "subsets" specifically. I don't have groups. I have some different possible scenarios and they each include a spattering of possible candidates. I guess the short answer to Frisk's question was "Yes." I wouldn't vote for someone I knew to be town, with one exception.

Lynches I'm OK with today: Axxle, Grujah, pops, (Galz, O)
I'm tempted to include myself on that list, but I'll limit it to folks who might actually be scum.

Parentheses for would rather not but could do in a pinch.
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« Reply #2117 on: June 23, 2012, 05:48:11 pm »

following the same format:

O, Grujah, pops (Galz, Axxle2)
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« Reply #2118 on: June 23, 2012, 05:51:56 pm »

Galz, O, Grujah, (Joth, Glooble, pops)
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« Reply #2119 on: June 23, 2012, 05:55:57 pm »

I don't know how you all manage to get these sets of scumtells. The only linkages I have are Robz-Grujah and the extremely unlikely Table-SFS, and those are pairs, not trios.

 
it's part of my iso this game, it's not really a thing.

 
pairings without flips are dumb.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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« Reply #2120 on: June 23, 2012, 06:06:40 pm »

I don't know how you all manage to get these sets of scumtells. The only linkages I have are Robz-Grujah and the extremely unlikely Table-SFS, and those are pairs, not trios.

 
it's part of my iso this game, it's not really a thing.

 
pairings without flips are dumb.

I think "part of my iso" was in response to my question about prisms, not to O's question about pairings, which was directed at me.

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« Reply #2121 on: June 23, 2012, 06:08:38 pm »

Before we start providing ranked lists, can we agree on the methodology of choosing our group lynch target?

Otherwise, I'm sure most of our lists will include some subset of Jonah, galz, pops, glooble, and we will be right back here, and I'm not going to agree to vote on a "consensus" lynch if there isn't a predefined way to select the target.
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« Reply #2122 on: June 23, 2012, 06:08:58 pm »

Anyway, to keep with format since I actually think Pops makes a valid point about not No-Lynching. In order from highest to lowest desire to lynch:

Glad to see gone: Pops, Jotheonah, Axxle
Willing to lynch: Grujah, Glooble, Dsell
Would rather not: Robz, C.F., O
Won't lynch: Tables, SFS, Myself
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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« Reply #2123 on: June 23, 2012, 06:10:16 pm »

I don't know how you all manage to get these sets of scumtells. The only linkages I have are Robz-Grujah and the extremely unlikely Table-SFS, and those are pairs, not trios.

 
it's part of my iso this game, it's not really a thing.

 
pairings without flips are dumb.

I think "part of my iso" was in response to my question about prisms, not to O's question about pairings, which was directed at me.

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Don't buy it. If you want I will produce the countless posts Pops has made where he claims that if he doesn't quote, his response was to the preceding post.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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« Reply #2124 on: June 23, 2012, 06:11:07 pm »

Ugggghhhhhhhhh

Will be REAL (as in, no internet access) V/LA very very soon for about ~48 hours. I want a lynch, so I'm going to park myself on the most likely consensus vote that I would still like to see a lynch of.

VOTE:Popsofctown unless anyone has any better ideas.

BTW Pops totally stole my meta from... every forum Mafia game. I've always said random lynch>nolynch, and you narbs never believed me.
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