Well, as far as scummyness goes, Axxle has been behind Pops at #2 on my radar. His voting against me quickly when I made my case on Robz (and the ridiculousness of his reason more than anything "Galz just doesn't want another strong thinker in the town" uhh... Right), his lack of anything substantive to say, his push for a wagon to roll... That's just off the top of my head without looking back.
Jo, I have played 3 games with you now. The first, we were unfortunately on opposite sides, and I knew it. Had I been town, you played a very enjoyable game. I would love to have town like that around. In the second, I got an uncanny read on you D1, that set both of us up to fall. Here, game 3, you've not played like the person I looked forward to having on my team. It makes me sad, but you shouldn't take it personally, and the "oh, pity me" argument doesn't go over well. Pops did it a few pages back and it irked me there too.
I guess what I'm saying is, while my reads have 2 (actually, 3) people more SCUMMY than you, my gut says "I've seen town Jo. This is not town Jo. I've seen SK Jo. This is not SK Jo. Jo roleclaimed vanilla already, so this is not PR Jo. I've never seen this Jo before. The only role I've never seen Jo play is Mafia. This must be Mafia Jo".
You claim kicking and screaming that you're not Mafia. Let's say, fine, I believe you. I go back to voting Pops. You don't get lynched, you don't get NK'd (and goodness, town or Mafia you won't). Now what? And let's say on the OUTSIDE chance you ARE Mafia... If I (or we, whatever) let you get away with playing like this... Well, we've basically screwed ourselves for any future Mafia games.
Do you SEE how the way you're playing is hurting the town? O is right, Axxle's argument that "survivalist is scum" is crap (for the record, and I corrected Axxle, I personally said it was irksome, not scummy). I shouldn't be on your bandwagon because you're not even in my top THREE. Yet here I am, willing to lynch you on the CHANCE you might be scum, even though I believe it more likely there is scum on your wagon. But it rids us of a Jo that I'm not honestly sure what to do with.
Yeah, it's a bit of a bind, and I'm rather conflicted about it.