Galz: That's fine I don't expect the pops voters to comment on themselves. But, as I noted before, if you were town voting for Pops, and if it was a mafia-involved bandwagon (which I can't imagine there wasn't at least one scum among them) means that you have a better chance of picking a mafia by choosing one out of those 4 then choosing one out of the remaining 10. Now, of course, you're pursuing Jotheonah, but I'm interested in hearing especially from the pops-voters about their fellow pops-voters.
I'm pretty intuitive-minded, so I'm not very good at the specific unless challenged. I'll work harder at it though.
Now for jotheonah:
I reread his posts, he doesn't strike me as mafia at all. One of the items brought against him is his whole "we, townies" schtick, so I looked into it. (Note: this is a good example of where I felt challenged about the specifics...I saw that argument made, but didn't notice it personally while reading his posts. So, I checked the details to see why)
Here's what I found as relevant to the "we, townies" claim:
#103: first post: let's kill mafia today, we can do it!
#163: My aren't we a jumpy town. (this is an expression...in fact it puts him as separate from town, which makes sense as he's pointing out that people like to vote for him)
#304: we need town all along the spectrum...
#337: talking about scumhunting. "We can't be looking for obvious tells, etc"
#343: asking galz how to hunt scum "how ought we hunt scum"
#351: "We, on the other hand, have the option of being authentic"
-and then we hit 357 where he responds to Grujah's comment
#386 he refers to the town showing a general inclination toward appreciating humor.
#424 he refers to us looking for a pseudo-lurker for Mafia.
So, there you go, 6 whole posts where he uses some form of "we, townies". 1 of which is after Grujah's comment. Note also, that he posted significant amounts about mafia theory between 163 and 304, where he talks about town in the third person. He's posted what like 60 times in this thread? I'm not buying it. As already mentioned by Galzria, we should be motivated by actions, not words. We have 2 big sources of action at the moment: 5 voters for pops. And now we've had a total of 5 (real) votes for jotheonah: Captain_Frisk, pops, Green Opal, Galzria, and Tables. With suspicion thrown around by Insomniac.
I'm not saying that neither should be suspected, in particular jotheonah's bandwagon is split over time (he's not yet topped 3 votes at once).
So, I've got more people to reread...which I should stop doing until after work (darn letting myself get distracted by game)