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[GendoIkari]

One could argue that some of the frustration arose from outside information (location of the shrine) being only partial information, whereas the game counted on you having no information... I guess?  It's an apologist's viewpoint for sure.

Actually, that relates to another issue… a lot of people, myself included, assumed that going to Hyrule castle to confront fake Zelda would lead straight to the end of the game. Had I known that wasn’t the case, then I wouldn’t have spent so much time trying to find shrine 152 right then. I would have gone and beat the castle, gotten the ring quest, cleared up thunderhead, and guessed right away that the missing shrine must be on this big sky island I had never been to. So I never would have used any external source to get all shrines.

[pacovf]

Got back to TotK after a summer break. I have two temples done, and all 12 tears, and seen most of the surface world other than the areas around Gerudo and Zora domains.

Did a quick trip to Hyrule castle, and explored the surface and floating areas, since a note from Zelda implies you should visit the throne room. It felt less epic than in BotW, but I assume because there is more left underground. Without spoilers, should I be leaving the underground part of the castle until the endgame, or is it fine to visit earlier?

[GendoIkari]

Got back to TotK after a summer break. I have two temples done, and all 12 tears, and seen most of the surface world other than the areas around Gerudo and Zora domains.

Did a quick trip to Hyrule castle, and explored the surface and floating areas, since a note from Zelda implies you should visit the throne room. It felt less epic than in BotW, but I assume because there is more left underground. Without spoilers, should I be leaving the underground part of the castle until the endgame, or is it fine to visit earlier?

You can easily get the light root under the castle without doing anything endgame, but there’s not a whole lot else to explore there until you want to beat the game.

[GendoIkari]

All wells found! We did just fully use a map for the last several. We got a companion app for the iPad which works really well. Basically going to an area we haven’t explored well, and using the app to mark off every korok as we find it. Only using map for koroks and wells so far. Because caves have more in-game ways of finding them, trying to see if we can get them all without a guide. Only 13 left!

[Cuzz]

I'm toward the end of the main story, and am just really confused about something, based on having done some things out of order. I got Mineru's mask and did the construct factory before going to the castle, and so after doing the castle they try to prompt me on my big quest to find the fifth sage and then are just like "oh wow you already found her, ok I guess you can just go try to find Gannondorf now."

The weird thing then was I immediately go to talk to Purah again and she says again (paraphrasing) "Ok, now you need to go find Gannondorf." But it then showed the Link talking animation, and Purah says "Oh you found him already? He's in the Depths? Go tell Josha." I talk to Josha, and she's like "Oh wow, you found him! My work paid off, yay!"

What's confusing is that I have no idea what I did to trigger that interaction. I had never had any opportunity to talk to Josha about Gannondorf, and as far as I know I have not actually found him yet (in the game at least--it's no real surprise where he is). I have not been into the chasm under the castle, nor into the part of the Depths anywhere near there.

There's either something I did ages ago that I don't remember, or it triggered just based on getting close enough to the chasm for it to mark on the map, or it's a logic error in the game, but it's very bizarre.

[GendoIkari]

I had a couple guesses as to what quest would lead to that dialogue happening, and found this article that confirmed one of them was correct. Basically it's when you fight Kohga, he says "in the darkness below the castle, where the Demon King now dwells. Yes, where the end of all things will begin! In the deepest reaches of the Depths... Far beneath Hyrule Castle!" So technically speaking Purah didn't expect you to even find him or do that whole quest until after everything else.

The whole "intended" order is pretty weird, really. Clearly a lot of people are going to do a lot of things before Purah tells you to. Fun fact, you can even beat a regional phenomena without talking to Purah the first time to get the paraglider, and there's special dialogue for that too.

[Cuzz]

Ah ok that makes sense. I had no memory of that dialog since I did all that ages ago, plus it’s weird to even treat the location of Gannondorf like a mystery if he’s gonna end up in the first place anyone would guess.

[GendoIkari]

Not only the first place anyone would guess, but also literally exactly where it shows you he is in the opening prologue. The game begins with Link and Zelda exploring the depths under Hyrule Castle and stumbling upon Ganondorf there. There's no suggestion that he's moved or left since then.

[GendoIkari]

Finished the sky last night. That is to say; we have all the old maps, sage's wills, and sky koroks. If anything else is up there, it's a couple random chests we missed somewhere with a random Zoanite Charge in it or whatever. No real way to know (not going to use the map/guide and specifically double-check every chest location... but we have had the chest sensor on almost the whole game and opened every one that was sensed). Theoretically there could still be an undefeated Flux Construct up there; but not likely at all.

[GendoIkari]

Ceave made a review! For those who don’t know, Ceave is a great YouTuber that used to do lots of very interesting mostly Mario-related videos, but he took a step away from being a full time YouTuber a year or two ago and rarely does new videos now.

Anyway, I’m only 6 minutes into this long video, but he already amazingly captured my exact biggest problem with the game, by pointing out yet another example where the game gives you frustration if you don’t do everything in the “correct” order. It’s something from the tutorial area that I had no idea was a possible issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4ldmt3eU2I

[GendoIkari]

I've now watched a few different reviews from different YouTubers, and they all seem to say the same thing, which largely lines up with my opinion: Amazing game, 10 out of 10, deserves all the praise it gets, and filled with frustratingly bad gameplay decisions.

We have 3 caves left to find. Unfortunately it does look like we're on track to finish everything except armor upgrades well ahead of all armor upgrades; which will leave us with nothing to do but grind out lizalfos tails and gems.